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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:05 PM
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It's not just emails and IMs -- it was a night out at Morton's in a BMW!
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 07:26 PM by StefanX
The Republicans keep claiming Foleygate boils down to just emails ("he's really in good shape") versus IMs ("take off your boxer shorts"... "cute butt bouncing in the air"... "don't forget to measure {your penis}"... "i want to see you"... "then what happens").

(Never mind that once ABC had the "overly friendly" emails, it took them about a day to get the "overtly sexual" IMs as well. Memo to Hastert: that's what's called "investigating". You ought to try it sometime, instead of covering your eyes and ears and doing your best Sargent Schulz imitation.)

But aside from the emails and the IMs, Shimkus, Hastert and the rest of the Republican leadership also let Foley take a page out on a friggin' "date" to Morton's steakhouse in Foley's BMW -- after they knew for years about Foley's "page problem", from emails -- emails which the page himself had described as "sick sick sick". They turned a blind eye to it -- probably for three reasons: (1) they didn't want to lose the seat, and (2) it was probably convenient to them to be able to reward Foley this way by giving him access to "our pages", and (3) their leniency with him (and the possibility that they could take it away at any minute) would have bought a lot of loyalty from him. (The implicit threat of blackmail is a great way to ensure party unity!) What I'm saying is: Shimkus and Hastert BENEFITED from Foley's page problem, they actively worked to provide him with access to "our pages", they actively worked to both keep it under wraps and also to indulge it from time to time. Hastert and Shimkus could easily face conspiracy charges for giving a person they knew to be a potential sex predator access to minors who worked for them and who they were supposed to be protecting.

So there's three things going on here: the emails, the IMs, and the "date" in at the dimly-lit, mahogany-paneled powerbroker steakhouse which they "cruise to" in Foley's BMW -- by his own admission, in a public speech! They let Foley take that page on a date knowing about his inappropriate emails already, which would have been reason enough to block him from taking that kid out on a date. And they would have known about the IMs too if they had investigated the emails instead of covering them up.

Shimkus and Hastert are going to both have to resign from Congress -- just over what's been revealed so far. And there probably are still, so to speak, a few more shoes about to drop.
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:08 PM
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1. .
Not only that.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2284499

Maf54: I miss you lots since san diego.
Teen: ya I cant wait til dc
Maf54:
Teen: did you pick a night for dinner
Maf54: not yet…but likely Friday
Teen: ok…ill plan for Friday then
Maf54: that will be fun


When do you say "I miss you lots since san diego"?? That's not a normal friendship between a Congressman and a former page...
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:11 PM
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2. Enquiring minds want to know: exactly what was Markie doing
with this young man in San Diego????

Perhaps there are hotel records.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:04 PM
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5. San Diego?
Isn't that the Duke-stir's former Congressional district? Hmmm....
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:13 PM
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3. Makes you wonder how many other congressman are being "leveraged"
and in what ways...
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:01 PM
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4. it's number 3 that has my attention
it seems to me that there's waaaaaaay too many GOPedophiles to be merely coincidence... it almost seems encouraged. when the game is as cynical as the r'pukes play it, it makes perfect sense to PROTECT a blackmail-able leader. all the better! he's totally owned.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:08 PM
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6. Was Gannon in the press room as a threat?
Was he really there to remind everybody involved that they were wholly owned? (Still don't believe he was just there to lob softballs)
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:31 PM
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8. i think there's a lot of overlap in all the abberant sexual behavior
in this administration. so yes... if i were to bet, i'd bet that The Guck was an all-purpose freak.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:28 PM
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7. I just saw tht BMW and Date thing on the Cable..Keith I think...Shameful!
thanks for your post and link...interesting. Impressing Pages with his "high life" and then e-mailing them to give them more favors he could provide. :eyes:
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