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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:44 PM
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Detainees File Lawsuit To TOSS NEW TORTURE/HABEAS LAW
Detainees File Lawsuit to Toss New Torture/Habeas Law

Great news on the military tribunal, torture and habeas restriction bill. A pre-emptive lawsuit to declare it unconstitutional was filed today by 25 prisoners at Bagram Air Force Base in Afghanistan.

Attorneys for 25 men being held in Afghanistan launched a pre-emptive strike Monday against President Bush's plan to prosecute and interrogate terror suspects.

Court documents filed Monday demand that the men be released or charged and allowed to meet with attorneys. Such a filing, known as a habeas corpus petition, is prohibited under the legislation approved by Congress last week.

The case has been assigned to U.S. District Judge Richard Leon, "who, in a Guantanamo Bay case last year, ruled that Congress had authorized the president to order the detention of "enemy combatants" for the duration of the war on terror. Leon did not set a hearing date in the new case."

The suit was filed by the Center for Constitutional Rights.
http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/home.asp

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061002/ap_on_go_ot/detainees_lawsuit
http://talkleft.com/new_archives/015914.html

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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:48 PM
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1. K & R for sure!
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 07:49 PM by nam78_two
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:50 PM
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2. CCR said they were going to challenge. Sure didn't
take them long. That's great.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:51 PM
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3. How long would it take for something like this to be overturned?
Any idea?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:54 PM
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9. No, I don't. I just knew this was coming.
I figure it will have to be addressed no matter when the bill is signed.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:03 PM
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12. a good while i think...
it will be appealed by the admin or pentagon all the way to the SCOTUS.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:07 PM
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16. :-/ -Oh well still good they got on it so fast! /nt
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:02 PM
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26. Probably two years. It'll be overturned close to election day in 2008. nt
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 11:03 PM by w4rma
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:52 PM
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4. They must have been working around the clock
:bounce: :toast: :bounce:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:05 PM
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13. They went ahead and put it on the docket.
Too bad for those that wanted the court barred from adjudicating.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:52 PM
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5. Pathetic that "the terrorists" are now the protectors of the constitution.
Thats what the GOP has enabled. The ones we claim as "terrorists" are now defending our rights...
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:02 PM
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11. Well stated.
How's that for a bizarre twist?
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:10 PM
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17. Can you believe that......
We can tell our children that terrorist tried to protect our consitution.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:16 PM
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18. What a shame... nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:23 PM
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20. surreal
:crazy:



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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:49 PM
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24. surreal
totally describes these last few days...
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:42 AM
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30. The problem is that a lot of these people are guilty of nothing
In normal law enforcement, something over 80 percent of those arrested for a crime are indeed guilty of it.

Other than the Taliban fighters, most of these people are not guilty of anything. As for the Taliban fighters, they were soldiers defending their country and should be handled like any other POW and put in a POW camp, not a Gulag.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:14 AM
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31. Ironic, ain't it?
This must be stopped now, before American citizens start being declared "enemy combatants".
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:53 PM
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6. "duration of the war on terror" eh? That wouldn't happen to be... FOREVER
would it?
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:53 PM
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7. That judge doesn't sound like he's going to rule in our favor
That sucks.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:20 PM
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19. i was thinking
the same thing. based on his earlier ruling it sounds like the case was assigned to a bushie tool
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:54 PM
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8. recommended #4
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:57 PM
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10. Yippee, maybe there's hope yet of stopping this abomination before
it can take effect.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 05:19 PM
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32. No, Bill Goodman (head lawyer for CCR) said it will be with us for years.
I heard him speak last night. He wasn't optimistic-- to say the least.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:05 PM
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14. Thank goodness! n/t
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:06 PM
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15. Bless them.
Hope it works.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:34 PM
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21. That's worth a donation
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:44 PM
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22. k&r for saving our Constitution & Bill of Rights
:kick:
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:04 PM
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23. That didn't take long
This judge doesn't sound very promising, though.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:42 AM
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28. Then we'll find another judge
and another and another and another until we restore our beloved Constitution.

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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:01 PM
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25. Good. That bill goes way farther than being un-Constitutional. (nt)
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 11:01 PM by w4rma
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:54 AM
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27. K&R n/t
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:11 AM
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29. k&r
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 05:24 PM
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33. I was at the meeting with the CCR lawyer handling the Gitmo case.
He was at the World Can't Wait emergency meeting last night in NYC as a top speaker (along with the former UK ambassador to Afghanistan) He mentioned that they were filing the suit. He also said that it was likely that this bill was going to be with us for years to come and that it would most certainly effect American citizens. He also was extremely skeptical that the habeus revocation only applied to non-citizens; he did not say why, but I suspect it is because the PATRIOT act revokes the citizenship of anyone determined to be an "enemy combatant"
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