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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:54 AM
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Republican actor/pundit/idiot Ben Stein on the Foley mess . . .
hey, I just report 'em . . .

Hypocrisy, Democrat Style
By Ben Stein

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10434

If there were an Academy Award for Hypocrisy, the surefire favorite for 2006 would be the Democratic Party. Just two recent items make the decision a virtual certainty:

The Representative Foley "scandal" is really worthy of a whole book on hypocrisy. On the one hand, we have a poor misguided Republican man who had a romantic thing for young boys. He sent them suggestive e-mail. I agree, that's not great. On the other hand, we have a Democratic party that worships (not likes, WORSHIPS) a man named Bill Clinton who did not send suggestive e-mails as far as we know, but who had a barely legal intern give him oral sex kneeling under his desk in the Oval Office while he talked on the phone to a Congressional Committee Chairman, took great pleasure in putting a cigar in her orifice and then smelling it and tasting it, and having her fellate him when in the sacred seat of power of the world's leading Republic. And the Democrats cheer themselves hoarse for him. His wife has a great shot at being our next President.

- more (unfortunately) . . .

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10434



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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:57 AM
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1. Since when is 22 barely legal?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:13 AM
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that's what I was thinking
I was trying to recall her age and was like: " Barely Legal? Wasn't she twenty-two?"

I mean hell, 22 is hardly "barely legal." Sure Clinton was a lout for cheating on his wife, but it was with consent between two adults. He's making a fake comparison. Pretty weird. Plus, he makes it sound like Foley was a lovesick romantic writing poetry to some unrequited love. I tell you what, this Foley stuff has brought out some sick arguments. Foley has a problem no doubt. I hope he gets help and everything works out for him. But, trying to defend and politicize this stuff is bad. These guys tried to coverup a guy who was a sexual predator chasing after underage boys, just so they could stay in power. That is a whole helluva lot different than Clinton having an affair with an intern. Hell, Republicans have plenty of affairs, are those condonable then?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:19 AM
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Shhhhh! Don't confuse the man
with facts ...
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:23 AM
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27. That's called barely making a point. n/t
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:30 AM
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30. No kidding!!!
Damn you for using those pesky things called facts :crazy:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:58 AM
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38. NO SHIT!!
:grr:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:00 AM
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39. That's ok, Ben Stein barely has a functioning brain cell
Beuller? Beuller? Anybody? Bueller?
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:06 AM
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50. Wasn't she 24?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:24 PM
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71. Since around the last time Ben Stein had sex
which would've been in, like, the '40s or something. :spank: The age of consent was probably 21 back then. Oh, and gas was 15 cents a gallon, a candy bar still cost five cents...
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:03 AM
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2. God, they look desperate
They've stooped to justifying pedophilia. :puke:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:05 AM
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4. they justify torture
everything else is fair game
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:10 AM
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8. True dat
Talk about morally bankrupt.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:12 AM
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23. funny, ain't it?
This crop of republicans justify torture, lying, mass killing of innocents, rape, plunder, sexual predation, theft, conspiracy.....You'd think even THEY would start to catch on they are spending more energy justifying abhorrent behavior than governing.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:04 AM
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3. Ben Stein to America: I'm a fucking perv too!
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:36 AM
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33. When They're That Hung Up On The Details It Says
1.) They don't get any and are pissed at those who do

2.) They aren't comfortable in their own skins and they live in a constantly repressed state that manifests itself in an obsession about sex...especiall the type they claim is "abhorant"

3.) Their "morale compass" has been so compromised by other vices...most notably greed...that they need to place a higher value on things they don't get as a weapon to bash others. The "holier than thou game".

Be assured Mr. Stein would jump at the chance to boof a PYT...and who knows, he probably has tried. I'm sure if put under a microscope, Mr. "bueler" wouldn't stand too long.

The Clennis is all these goons have to hang on now as they see their party disolving. Instead of looking inward at their own corruption...which requires something called integrity & responsibility (which it's obvious Mr. Stein has none of)...it's gotta be the old school yard taunt of "well they did it, too".

It's good to see the power of the "Clennis" vanish in recent weeks...first with Big Dog's slap down of Wallace and now with this cover-up and scandal.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:06 AM
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5. "poor misguided Republican man...
who had a romantic thing for young boys. He sounds like Colbert in character.. it's bizarre.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:05 PM
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57. "I agree, that's not great"
I love that line. Understatement of the fucking year.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:28 PM
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63. Yes, Ben Stein should tell the parents it was just romance,
when a middle age congressman trys to seduce their 16 year old boy.:puke:
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:06 AM
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6. Me thinks Mr. Stein may just identify with...
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 03:07 AM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...the predilections of Mr. Foley a wee little bit too much---he knows it could be him.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:07 AM
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7. here's the thing, Stein, you pathetic republican whore
CLINTON'S affairs were none of our business, but CHILDREN ARE EVERYONE'S BUSINESS
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:11 AM
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9. Republicans do not understand this. They are insane.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:01 PM
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65. Ah, brilliant reply.
And I also agree with the poster who said this hits a bit too close to home for mr. stein. Anyone who comes away from this story with that deduction can only have some similar skeleton bones in their closet.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:12 AM
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10. So 16 is pretty much an adult, but 22 is practically a child?
Yeah, sure Ben...in BIZARRO WORLD!

Honestly, how can they say that when talking about hypocrisy and take themselves seriously?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:13 AM
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11. in their world, 14 is a woman
if she is murdered by soldiers
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:20 AM
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15. Yet an innocent child, if she's an American who wants to get an abortion
after her dad raped her.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:14 AM
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12. Ben Stein, still trading in on that novelty character status
good to see you take yourself seriously, buddy. Nobody else does.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:14 AM
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13. The Clenis defense lives!

I'm guessing that not even 30% are buying it in this case, though.

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:18 AM
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14. This HAS to be satire
He called a serial predator a "poor misguided Republican man."

Then he said the only people in the Democratic Party were gays, lesbians and schoolteachers.

It's either the best satire or the worst writing I've ever read in my life.

The sad thing is, Ben Stein has enough talent to pull off satire.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:05 AM
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22. I was thinking the same thing
No one with any functional brain cells could be serious when they write lines such as:

"the stars and bars are a beautiful design and show nothing whatsoever about a person's views about non-whites"

" is entirely about respect for a time of unbelievable horror in our society, The Civil War, and respect for men who fought so brilliantly for a cause that was unquestionably -- by decent standards -- a bad cause."

"the Democrats, whose primary constituency, besides the teachers' unions, is homosexual men and lesbian women. I hope it won't come as a surprise to anyone that a big part of male homosexual behavior is interest in young boys. (Take a look at anyone renting Endless Summer next time you are at the video store.) Don't get me wrong. My very best friend is gay. I have many gay friends and they are great people."

Its either the funniest or saddest thing I've ever read...
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:29 AM
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29. No, I don't think it is
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 07:32 AM by AngryOldDem
I thought the same thing, but this is exactly what many on the GOP are saying. Just tune in to CSPAN right now to hear pretty much more of the same. Stein hears, sees, and speaks no evil of the GOP. He's serious.

ON EDIT: Also note where this was published. The American Spectator. This magazine was knee deep in hunting down evidence on Clinton back in the Paula Jones days. No allegations or apologies are too low for this rag.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:08 AM
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35. It's not satire
Ben Stein went off the deep end a while ago - last year he tried to blame Deep Throat for the genocide in Cambodia:

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8242

So, this is the great boast of the enemies of Richard Nixon, including Mark Felt: they made the conditions necessary for the Cambodian genocide. If there is such a thing as kharma, if there is such a thing as justice in this life of the next, Mark Felt has bought himself the worst future of any man on this earth. And Bob Woodward is right behind him, with Ben Bradlee bringing up the rear. Out of their smug arrogance and contempt, they hatched the worst nightmare imaginable: genocide. I hope they are happy now -- because their future looks pretty bleak to me.


He's gone Looney Tunes :crazy:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:30 AM
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16. So Stein thinks it was "romantic" what Foley did?

Okaaay.

Maybe someone should check on any underage boys who've been around Mr. Stein. :shrug:

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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:45 AM
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17. Scoop: Ben Stein has a thing for 'barely legal' college girls
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 03:46 AM by keopeli
Ben Stein was a professor of mine in college. His course, Communication and Culture, was very engaging and interesting.

It was well known that Ben Stein had a thing for young women. For a time, he was in a 'relationship' with a fellow student of mine and acquaintance. She was as enamoured by him as he was of her. They walked all over campus together, shared meals, and displaying overt physical affection (holding hands, kissing, etc) as though they were in high school. This was very unusual on the conservative campus that I attended, so it was widely noticed, yet the administration never admonished him for his overt affections with a student.

While his course was interesting, his behavior was always unusual. He was known for being an 'oddball', but his fame overrode his behavior.

To minimize the spectre of a congressman making sexual overtures to a minor is itself hypocritical and heinous. Bringing up the Clinton scandal after almost a decade shows how weak the Republican retort is to this damaging reality.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 04:15 AM
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18. Having a "thing" for young boys is.... "not great"!
Also, torturing cats is... sometimes not the best thing to do. Beating your children with a crowbar is... perhaps less than satisfactory. Stealing money from orphans is... potentially problematic.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 04:27 AM
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19. 'ROMANTIC?' "Be sure to measure your penis for me!
"Don't forget!"


Yes, how romantic. :eyes:
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 06:06 AM
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20. It almost reads like satire! "a poor misguided...man"
Actually Stien is the one who sucks...
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 06:27 AM
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21. "Sacred Seat of Power"? "Barely Legal"?
So it wasn't what Clinton did, it was where he did it?

And shouldn't a man of Stein's alleged intellect recall that by the time he was just as "barely legal" as Monica, Alexander the Great had conquered half the known world.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:16 AM
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24. Stein is a disgusting partisan creep.
Thats all I have to say.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:19 AM
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25. Bueller? Bueller? Frye? Frye?
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wholetruth00 Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:20 AM
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26. Is "barely legal" like a "little pregnant?"
Ben, even you are suspect.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:27 AM
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28. I scanned it. Could not read it.
Sorry, but I had to stop when I came to the line, "My best friend is gay." To me, any more, that is like writing, "My best friend is Black," or "My best friend is Jewish." The subtext of prejudice and scapegoating are sugarcoated by such "disclaimers," and it makes whatever point that is struggling to be put forth moot. Especially so in Ben Stein's case, since he obviously makes a career out of defending the indefensible to whatever circulation The American Spectator claims to hold these days.

But as the old saying goes, consider the source. It's Ben Stein, for chrissake. What else did you expect him to say?

But I will say this. His portrait of Foley as a "poor, misguided man with a thing for young boys" makes my stomach turn.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:31 AM
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31. CAN SOMEONE TELL BEN STEIN THAT DEMS WERE NOT TOLD ABOUT ANY OF THIS
and they should have been?? that this was being covered up by republicans??

and the FBI!!

can we all write this mother fucker..and blast his ass out of the water!!

please..enough is enough..

can we write the Spectator and demand an appology by Mr Stein to the dems and these children?????

i mean a big time campaign to write this mother fucker and shut his ass down??

i am damn sick of the blame game..

here is something to look at...ask Stein who this was kept so quiet???????


( A LITTLE BACK GROUND ON THIS INFO.. I SENT THIS STUFF TO NOREEN GOSCH LAST MONTH..WHEN A SO CALLED DETECTIVE FROM TAMPA TRIED TO DISCREDIT HER ..ABOUT THE PICTURES SHE HAD PLACED ON HER DOORSTEP OF HER SON TIED UP ON A BED FROM MANY YEARS AGO..IT WAS DEVISTATING TO HER..AND THEN OUT OF THE BLUE A DETECTIVE TRIED TO DISCREDIT HER..A MOTHER..AND IT RAN ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN MEDIA (that this detective said the pictures were a hoax).
now the Detective Divison in Tampa has not been able to find or
TO COME UP WITH ANYTHING OF PROOF OF WHAT HE SAID..NOTHING ....

..AND THE HOLES IN THIS DETECTIVES STORY ARE A MILE WIDE..AND YET THE MEDIA HAS NOT COVERED THAT..SO NOREEN HAD A FEW OF US IN TAMPA AREA LOOK FOR INFO ON THIS SO CALLED DETECTIVE..AND YET THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT THIS MAN..AVAILABLE BEFORE HE BECAME A SO CALLED DETECTIVE..

NOTHING COULD BE FOUND IN HIS BACKGROUND ..NOTHING..
makes one wonder...

of course Tampa is ..
HEADQUARTERS OF THE IRAQ WAR..McDILL AIR FORCE BASE!

IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THE GOVERNMENT WAS TRYING TO SHUT DOWN THE STORY..NOREEN HAD GONE ON FOX NEWS 2X AND WAS SLATED TO GO ON SEVERAL OTHERS..AND THAT GOT SHUT DOWN AFTER THIS SO CALLED DETECTIVE CAME FORWARD WITH HIS LIES!)


I CAME UPON THIS INFO WHILE LOOKING INTO THE BACKGROUND OF THE DETECTIVE..

hmmm seems BUSH'S HOMELAND SECURITY
can't keep their hands off children..

why did the TV Dateline PREDITORS show not disclose that a government employee was caught in their sting??

http://nmallory.exit-23.net/20060405/three-three-homela ...

The Naked Truth » Blog Archive » Three. Three Homeland Security Child Predators. Three. Three Homeland Security Child Predators.

http://nmallory.exit-23.net/20060405/three-three-homela ...

Everyone who’s supposedly anyone in the blogsphere is reporting that there’s a second case of a Department of Homeland Security Sex Scandal today — this is the case of Frank Figueroa senior law enforcement official who used to run DHS’s Operation Predator and who was busted last October after exposing himself to a girl in a food court.

Obviously no one was paying attention to me when I reported earlier that there was a DHS federal agent arrested through Dateline’s child predator special program.

So there’s three.



Everyone who’s supposedly anyone in the blogsphere..http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000294.php ... is reporting that there’s a second case of a Department of Homeland Security Sex Scandal today — this is the case of Frank Figueroa senior law enforcement official who used to run DHS’s Operation Predator and who was busted last October after exposing himself to a girl in a food court.

Obviously no one was paying attention to me when I reported earlier that there was a DHS federal agent arrested through Dateline’s child predator special program.

So there’s three.

Kind of lends itself to my theory that Homeland Security has a special club for them, doesn’t it?


The Naked Truth » Blog Archive » More From the Department Of Child Predators
More From the Department Of Child Predators

Well, in case you thought that sexual perversion in government officials was isolated to Homeland Security…

A high-ranking Defense Department IT official has been arrested and indicted on child pornography charges.

Charles Lynch, director of the Defense Information Systems Agency’s Internet Protocol version 6 transition program, was arrested March 8 and indicted in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia the next day on one count of possessing child pornography.

According to a statement by the DOD Inspector General’s Office, court documents allege that Lynch had been operating a peer-to-peer file-sharing program on a computer in his office at DISA. Agents confiscated several computers and more than 1,000 CDs from Lynch’s office. Agents found child pornography in computer file folders, the IG’s statement said.

Lynch, 44, is on leave without pay from DISA. If convicted, he faces up to 10 years in prison.

The investigation is being conducted by the Defense Criminal Investigative Service, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the DISA OIG. Officials with those agencies, as well as the U.S. Attorney’s Office, declined to comment on the ongoing investigation.

In apparently unrelated cases, a Homeland Security Department official was arrested earlier this week for soliciting sex over the Internet with a minor. And last week, federal agents seized computer equipment from the desk of a NASA official March 29, based on information developed during a U.S. Postal Inspection Service undercover investigation of Internet trafficking in child pornography. <“DOD IPv6 director arrested for possession of child porn” (GNC)>

Remember when the Rebublicans thought a President having a blowjob in the White House was the most immoral thing a man could do?( WITH A 24 YR OLD CONSENUALLY )Why aren’t we hearing as much of a fuss from the same right that launched a witch hunt for that same President about all of these government officials who are preying on innocent children on government time and government equipment and taxpayer money?

Hat Tip to Suburban Guerrilla.


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more at these links..

http://nmallory.exit-23.net/20060407/more-from-the-depa ...


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http://www.dodig.mil/IGInformation/IGInformationRelease ...

Department of Defense
Office of the Inspector General
Information Release
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE March 14, 2006
Senior Defense Information Systems Agency Employee
Indicted on Possession of Child Pornography
The Office of the Inspector General (OIG), Department of Defense (DoD),
announced today that on March 9, 2006, Dr. Charles Lamont Lynch, age 44, of Clifton,
Virginia, was indicted by a Federal grand jury at the U.S. District Court, Eastern District
of Virginia (EDVA), Alexandria, Virginia, on a single count of possession of child
pornography, a violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 2252A(a)(5)(b). If
convicted, Lynch could be imprisoned for up to 10 years.
Lynch served as the Chief of the Defense Information Systems Agency’s
(DISA’s) Internet Protocol Version 6 Transition Office. He was recently put on leave
without pay.
Court documents allege that Lynch has been operating a peer-to-peer file sharing
program on a computer in his office at the DISA. Investigating agents seized several
computers and over 1,000 CD-ROM disks when they searched Lynch’s office. Child
pornography was found in computer file folders.


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http://www.gcn.com/online/vol1_no1/40316-1.html

Federal agents seized computer equipment from the desk of a NASA official March 29, based on information developed during a U.S. Postal Inspection Service undercover investigation of Internet trafficking in child pornography.

TheSmokingGun.com Web site has posted significant excerpts from an affidavit written to request a search warrant outlining much of the case against James R. Robinson, a GS-15 in NASA's In-Space Propulsion, Mission and Systems Management Division, based at NASA headquarters in Washington. The affidavit was written by a special agent in the NASA inspector general’s office.

According to the affidavit, Robinson used both his home and office computers to store and trade numerous images of underage children engaged in a variety of sexual acts.

this next is a must read and scroll all the way down!!

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0331061nasa1.html


NASA HQ Raided In Kiddie Porn Probe
Feds: "Skin tone filtering system" helped nab space agency executive
MARCH 31--The Washington headquarters of NASA was raided this week as part of a kiddie porn probe targeting an executive with the space agency, The Smoking Gun has learned. On Wednesday morning, federal investigators seized a laptop computer, a hard drive, CDs, and other material from the office of James R. Robinson, who was present when agents with NASA's inspector general executed a search warrant at his E Street office. According to an affidavit filed in U.S. District Court, Robinson, 42, used his office computer (and another in his Virginia home) to trade and examine illegal images and videos. An excerpt from the affidavit, sworn by agent Paul Danley, can be found below. Robinson, a program executive with NASA's In-Space Propulsion, Mission and Systems Management Division, was snared last year in an online operation run by postal inspectors. In correspondence with a series of undercover agents, he described his preferences as, "probably priority right now would be boy-on-boy or boy-with-Man, and girl-on-girl. But really, anything is of interest." Robinson, who has not been arrested, wrote that he was "Not a cop," and explained that he amassed his child porn collection via downloads "via Kazaa and usegroups."


now check this out..charges were dropped!! but it is an ongoing investigation????????


http://www.gcn.com/online/vol1_no1/40341-1.html?CMP=OTC ...


Child porn charge against DOD IPv6 director dropped
Investigation continues
By Patience Wait, GCN Staff



snip:

(Updated) Two weeks after a Defense Information Systems Agency official was arrested on a charge of child pornography, the U.S. Attorney’s office handling the case dropped the charge. But a spokeswoman in the U.S. Attorney’s Office said the investigation is continuing.

“This is an ongoing investigation, so we don’t have any comments,” the spokeswoman said.

Charles Lynch, director of DISA’s IP version 6 transition program, was arrested March 8 and indicted in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia the next day on one count of possessing child pornography.

According to a statement by the DOD Inspector General’s Office, court documents alleged that Lynch had been operating a peer-to-peer file-sharing program on a computer in his office at DISA. Agents confiscated several computers and more than 1,000 CDs from Lynch’s office.

Lynch, 44, is on leave without pay from DISA.

The investigation is being conducted by the Defense Criminal Investigative Service, the FBI and the DISA OIG. Joseph McMillan, special agent in charge of the DCIS Mid-Atlantic Field Office, would not elaborate on why the charge was dismissed. “It’s our policy neither to deny nor confirm the existence of an ongoing criminal investigation,” McMillan said.


EDITOR’S NOTE: The original version of this story, posted April 6, reported Lynch’s arrest and indictment, but did not report that the charge had been dismissed. The U.S. Attorney’s Office, when contacted April 6 about the arrest, said only that the investigation is continuing, but not that the charge had been dismissed.

*******
NOW MAKE IT 4 IN BUSHES GOVERNMENT ..
BESIDES FOLEY!
TWO OF WHOM WERE IN CHARGE OF INTERNET PROGRAMS WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTING
CHILDREN!


http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=PREDATOR-04-05-06&cat=AN


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Two in Homeland Security now charged with child sex crimes
By LISA HOFFMAN
Scripps Howard News Service
April 05, 2006

WASHINGTON - It's called "Operation Predator," a high-priority Department of Homeland Security program that does battle against those who prey sexually on children.

Now, with the arrest Tuesday night of a department deputy secretary, at least two of the agency's own top personnel stand charged with just such offenses.

"It hammers home the fact that these individuals can be anywhere," said John Shehan, of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which works closely with Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement bureau.

Brian Doyle, deputy press secretary to Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, faces 23 counts of using a computer to seduce a child and transmitting harmful materials to a minor. He was caught in a police Internet sting in which a detective pretended to be a 14-year-old girl.

Doyle, 55, allegedly bragged to the "girl" about his post at Homeland Security, and gave her his work telephone number when conversing with her about engaging in sex acts.

A spokeswoman for the ICE said Doyle was not directly involved in the Operation Predator program, and declined additional comment. The investigation of Doyle was initiated by the Polk County, Fla., sheriff's office, and the federal agency is cooperating with "the ongoing investigation," according to a Homeland Security statement.

The other Homeland Security official charged with a sexual offense involving a girl is veteran administrator Frank Figueroa, 49, the ICE special agent in charge of the agency's operations in central and northern Florida. Figueroa, who also ran the agency's El Paso, Texas, office, has pleaded not guilty to charges he exposed and fondled himself to a teenage girl last year at a mall in Tampa.

Within ICE, Operation Predator is a high-profile program launched in 2003. It is dedicated to identifying, investigating and catching child predators, and reports more than 6,900 arrests nationwide since the program began, according to the ICE Web site. (www.ice.gov).

Aside from cracking down on Internet predators and pornographers and those who traffick in child sexual slavery, the program also has created the National Child Victim Identification System.

Through this database, ICE, the FBI, U.S. Postal Inspection Service, U.S. Secret Service and other agencies can coordinate efforts to identify children who appear in pornography, rescue them and prosecute those who photograph and distribute the images.

Also a part of that network is the private, nonprofit missing-children center, which said it was "disappointed" to hear about the case against Doyle. Even so, Shehan said his organization remains an enthusiastic partner with ICE.

"It doesn't shake our confidence," Shehan said.






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(Contact Lisa Hoffman at HoffmanL(at)shns.com)



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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:36 AM
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32. What I find funny..
.. (and Ben Stein's deadpan bullshit ceased to be funny by 1989) is that Republican defense always consists of "well they did it and their's was worse".

Putting aside the fact that Monica was of legal age, they seem to forget the "consequences" that the Republican party brought down on President Clinton for his dalliance. Even though the country was firmly against them, they insisted on impeaching him for this.

So, this offense being much greater, and there almost CERTAINLY being pages out there with more sordid stories to tell should they decide to come forward, coupled with the FACT that Foley's behavior was at best treated with benign neglect and at worst Machiavellian complicity - I wonder what the proper punishment for the folks involved would be? And I wonder if the American people will be against it as they were with Clinton.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:03 AM
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34. I just flamed Ben Stein
This is what I sent to him at the American Spectator, feel free to email him too: editor@spectator.org

Hypocrisy, Ben Stein Style

I just wanted to point out some glaring errors in Ben Stein's editorial "Hypocrisy, Democrat Style".

"On the one hand, we have a poor misguided Republican man who had a romantic thing for young boys. He sent them suggestive e-mail. I agree, that's not great."

That's simply not true- he sent them emails and IMs asking them to measure their 16 & 17 year old penises, made some highly sexually graphic comments to them, and tried to arrange liasions to have sex with these under age boys.

"On the other hand, we have a Democratic party that worships (not likes, WORSHIPS) a man named Bill Clinton who did not send suggestive e-mails as far as we know, but who had a barely legal intern"

Barely legal - are you kidding me?? Since when is a woman in her early 20s "BARELY LEGAL"? We're talking about an incident between two consenting adults, and you try to compare that to a middle aged congressman preying on UNDERAGE children. The 2 situations are not even comparable.

"But how the Democrats, the party of gays, can be coming down this hard on a MC who's gay is simply beyond belief. "

It's not that he's gay - it's the fact that he was PREYING on UNDERAGE boys that is the problem. What part of pedophilia do you not undestand? Anyone, anyone, Bueller? Is it really that hard to comprehend the difference between consenual acts between 2 adults and a much older man trying to have sex with children??

"Now, he's a bad guy because he has a Confederate flag."

More obfuscating - this is not just about the Confederate flag (traitor flag). He kept a noose in his office, he put a severed deer's head in the mailbox of a black couple, he repeatedly used the N-word, he's so ashamed of his Jewish heritage that he even lied about it after knowing about it for a while from his mother. This isn't just about the flag, it's about a man with some deep seated racial issues and a serious problem with telling the truth. He's lied about being Jewish- what else is he lying about?

"Didn't we just recently have as President a Democrat from Georgia who was inches away from being a segregationist in his early career?"

Since when is 30 years recent? Is that more of that voo-doo economics? Do I need to bring up Jesse Helms? Trent Lott? Strom Thurmond? Jefferson Sessions? Remind me where did Reagan give his first major campaign speech? In none other Philadelphia, Mississippi. Now, what could be the significance of that location?

Let's be straight here, neither party has a monopoly on hypocrisy, but it's obvious Ben Stein has the monopoly on selective memories.


:P
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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:06 AM
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43. Love it, love IT!
:applause: :yourock:
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:45 AM
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47. Why thank-you!
:D
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:12 AM
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45. nice one. You did leave a couple of things out
I would've added:

"the stars and bars are a beautiful design and show nothing whatsoever about a person's views about non-whites"

A "beautiful design" -- would you say the same thing about someone who displayed a Nazi flag? After all, the swastika has been around for 3000 years as part of various cultures, so if someone displays it it must not show anything about their views regarding Jews, right?


"the Democrats, whose primary constituency, besides the teachers' unions, is homosexual men and lesbian women."

Let's see...59 million Americans voted for John Kerry, the Democratic candidate. I had no idea that there were so many homosexual men, lesbian women, and teachers in the US. Heck, apparently over 40 percent of the folks in places like Georgia and South Carolina are gay or members of the teachers union. Who knew? But it does raise a question: with almost half the population apparently (at least according to you) being gay and/or teachers, why does so much of the country dress and spell so badly?
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:45 AM
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48. Oh man those are good!!!!
Wish I had thought of them - hope you email him too :D :evilgrin:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:38 AM
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51. thanks!
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:49 PM
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55. why does so much of the country dress and spell so badly?
Love it! That's great!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:17 AM
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36. kick
:kick:
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:54 AM
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37. Response to the Spectator - Hypocrisy, indeed.
When comparing the Foley scandal to the Clinton fiasco, what Ben Stein seems to ignore, conveniently, is that little thing called the age of consent. What Bill Clinton did was reprehensible, but at least it was done between consenting adults. Foley, on the other hand, was/is a sexual predator, preying on a 15 year old boy.

Lets repeat that, for clarity: Foley was sending sexual emails to a 15 year old child.

Remember, Bill Clinton's crime was committed after the fact, when he lied about his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. The relationship itself was not illegal, just idiotic. Foley's crime however, was engaging in the act itself.

Readers, if you have a similarly aged child, hear me out. Can you honestly say that if you found that a grown man was sending your young son or daughter sexually explicit emails or letters, that you would say to yourself "Why he's just a poor misguided Republican man who had a romantic thing for young boys."

I doubt it.

I speak only for myself, but I'm positive that some heads will be nodding when I say that my reaction would be to reach for a weapon and pray to God in heaven that the authorities arrest this man before I do something rash.

Ben Stein should be ashamed of himself. Congressman Foley should be ashamed of himself and arrested. And if anyone in Congress knew what Foley was up to, and let it continue unchecked, then they should be arrested as well, or at the very least kicked the hell out of office and run out of town on a splintery rail.

What an awful story for all involved. But the very worst thing here is that Rep. Foley engaged in these despicable activities in hiding, while publicly positioning himself as an advocate for child safety. In fact, Foley seems to have violated the very laws which he championed. He took our trust, and the trust of that young boy, and violated it all.

Hypocrisy, indeed.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:01 AM
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40. Ben Stein seemed to enjoy writing that description a little too much
I wonder what he was doing with his otehr hand while typing that salacious description of Clinton's actions.
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QuestionAll... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:52 AM
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52. shaking up a whipped cream can?
from Jon Stewart last nite. :rofl:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:04 AM
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41. The Republicans covered up and even facilitated Foley's pedophilia.
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 10:04 AM by Marr
They made him the Chairman of the House Commission on Missing and Exploited Children.

The same Republicans imeached Bill Clinton for his affair with another consenting adult. There's hypocrisy to be found here alright.

I don't expect much from men like Ben Stein. He's just another partisan hack, quacking away at any line that he thinks will benefit his "team".
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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:04 AM
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42. At least Monica was old enough to buy a damn cigar.
Foley was stalking boys who weren't even old enough to drive. :banghead:
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cobaindrain Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:09 AM
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44. 22? She was 24/25, and initiated the relationship!
Stein is such an idiot
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:15 AM
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46. She was 22
Lewinsky was born in July 1973 and her relationship with Clinton began in December 1995

But there's a world of difference between 16 and 22 and you're absolutely right to point out that she initiated the relationship).
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:55 AM
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49. A 23-year-old college graduate is "barely legal"?
Methinks Stein has been looking at the wrong porn sites....
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:40 PM
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54. Now THAT is a mental image I didn't need!
:puke:

;)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:06 PM
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58. Sorry!!!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:53 PM
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64. Was just pickin'
;)
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:01 PM
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53. There are a multitude of reasons why they are spinning this so hard....
1)it is so close to the election.
2)the yuck factor.
3)it involved young boys (pedophile)
4)it was homosexual.
5)it was covered up.

This will hit their voting base in a serious way. Of course they will blame the boys, alcohol, well Clinton of course. But on this one-the lies are really bold faced and OBVIOUS to the independents.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:56 PM
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56. The only hypocrisy I see
Is the fact Republicans rode the backs of anti-homosexual propositions to victory in key battle ground states in the last election cycle and are now trying to make Clinton’s affair with an adult women seem dirtier than soliciting underage boys and then covering it up for perhaps over a year. If what Foley did wasn’t so bad, why do we need constitutional amendments to protect straight people? I mean I thought this country was on the brink of animals marrying people here. I guess the crisis has passed. 2 years later soliciting underage boys is now moved to the "not so bad" category, while oral sex with adult women still worst thing to happen ever.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:08 PM
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59. HYPOCRISY republiCON STYLE!
It's not Democrats fault that mark foley is a pervert and the repuke leadership(?) Tried to cover it UP.

And abc went for it!

ben stein/apologist for pervert preying on children.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:11 PM
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60. Ben Stein is a pervert!
:puke:


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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:12 PM
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61. Ben Stein describes graphic sexual acts. How many times
do you think he touched himself in a sinful manner while writing this?
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:17 PM
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62. Methinks Ben Schwein is a perv himself
"Romantic thing for young boys?" :wtf:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:10 PM
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66. Ben Stein should work on the Foxnews channel.
Just as worthless and putrid as any Foxnews 'journalist'.

Win Ben Stein's brain, if you can find it! :eyes:
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:10 PM
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67. Me thinks he's been drinking those saline eyedrops he hawks.
Hey Ben, saltwater can make you crazy. Didn't you ever watch any pirate movies??
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TAPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:15 PM
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68. I just want to say
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 02:18 PM by TAPat
I HATE Ben Stein and have for a long, long time!

edit to say in response to: "the Democrats, whose primary constituency, besides the teachers' unions, is homosexual men and lesbian women."

Fuck Off you POS!



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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:21 PM
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69. There was no conversation with the GOP party chairman
Unless I'm remembering this wrong.

Clinton was alleged to have had two phone conversations with prominent Rs while with Monica. Both of the men he allegedly spoke with said, to their credit, the conversations never happened. One even said, "Every single conversation I ever had with the President was memorable, and if I had had one on that date, I'd remember it."
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:23 PM
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70. REPUBLICANS THINK PEDOPHILIA AND CONSENTING ADULT SEX
ARE THE SAME THING.

Rinse. Repeat. Rinse. Repeat. Rinse. Repeat.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2269905
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 07:52 AM
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72. kick
:kick:
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 08:14 AM
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73. But Clinton got a BJ!!!



They'll never get over it.









:rofl:





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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 08:21 AM
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74. The Clenis did it again!
from the party of "integrity and personal responsibility".
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