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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:41 AM
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Fox's Smith falsely suggested recipient of Foley IMs, not emails, describe

Fox's Smith falsely suggested recipient of Foley IMs, not emails, described them as "sick, sick, sick"



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Saying that he did not "want to confuse two things here," on the October 2 edition of Fox News' Studio B, host Shepard Smith appeared to do precisely that. He claimed that the 16-year-old former congressional page who received sexually inappropriate emails from former Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL) in 2005 had not referred to them as "sick." Smith asserted this in the defense of Republican House leaders who have stated that they had knowledge of the Foley emails -- which they have described as "overly friendly" -- but not the more explicit instant messages written by Foley in 2003. In fact, the recipient of the emails did repeatedly describe them as "sick" when he forwarded them to a congressional aide in August 2005.

On September 29, Foley resigned from Congress after ABC News reported that he had engaged in sexually inappropriate email and instant message conversations with underage male pages. During an October 2 discussion of the scandal on Studio B, Smith stated that "the emails are one thing, the instant messages were something else" and noted that House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) has said "very clearly the only thing the leadership or anyone else had seen was a series of emails." Guest Laura Schwartz, a former aide to President Clinton, responded that while Republicans have repeatedly referred to the Foley emails as "overly friendly," the "victim himself called it 'sick, sick, sick' 12 times." Smith replied, "This is not a soup. These are individual things. The emails one might characterize as 'overly friendly' -- that does not seem like an exaggeration to me. The instant messages -- that's another matter." When Schwartz again noted that the victim of the emails "said they were 'sick' 12 times," Shepard stated, "It was the victim of the instant messages who made the 'sick, sick, sick' claims, was it not?"

In fact, as Schwartz originally stated, the "sick, sick, sick" response came from the recipient of the purportedly "overly friendly" emails -- not the recipient of the instant messages. On August 31, 2005, the former page who corresponded with Foley via email forwarded to an aide in Rep. Rodney Alexander's (R-LA) office the email messages he had received from the congressman earlier that year. In an August 30 email to the aide, the former page excerpted some of the things that Foley had written and repeatedly wrote the word "sick" below. From the August 30 email:

This was the one he sent about Will:

"I just emailed Will ... hes such a nice guy ... acts much older than his age ... and hes in such great shape ... i am just finished riding my bike on a 25 mile journey now heading to the gym ... whats school like for you this year?"

And this is the one about send him a pic:

"how are you weathering the hurricane ... are you safe ... send me an email pic of you as well ..."

Sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick ...

From the October 2 edition of Fox News' Studio B with Shepard Smith:

SMITH: Laura Schwartz, is there a Democratic accusation that there was a cover-up here? Are there -- are there -- are there -- is there evidence of such? And if not, why are the allegations there?

SCHWARTZ: Well, that's what we're going to find out through this Department of Justice investigation. You know, the story becomes what they knew and when they knew it. And perhaps if they knew this a year ago, as has been speculated in the media --

SMITH: But only speculated on. Denny Hastert says very clearly the only thing that the leadership or anyone else had seen was a series of emails. The emails and the instant messages -- search them online, you can find them, I am not about to read them here -- but the emails are one thing, the instant messages were something else.

SCHWARTZ: Absolutely. And you know, the fact is parents all around this country -- Republicans and Democrats alike -- wouldn't classify these as just naughty emails when it's their sons or daughters that may be online with a sexual predator. You know, Republicans are calling these "overly friendly," but the victim himself called it "sick, sick, sick" 12 times. So this has many tentacles, this investigation --

SMITH: You know what, though? I don't want to confuse two things here, and I fear that's what's happening. This is not a soup. These are individual things. The emails one might characterize as "overly friendly" -- that doesn't seem like an exaggeration to me. The instant messages -- that's another matter.

SCHWARTZ: When the victim himself said they were "sick" 12 times?

SMITH: It was the victim of the instant messages who made the "sick, sick, sick" claims, was it not?

SCHWARTZ: It was also the victim that called into Representative Alexander's office, who upon learning this, Representative Alexander -- and this is the Democrats' argument right now that you insinuated to. They -- Representative Alexander called Representative Reynolds -- the political operative, the head of the Republican National Campaign Committee -- instead of alerting leadership first. And even when leadership was informed, they did not conduct an investigation.

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:44 AM
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1. more filthy and lies from FAUX...no surprise there
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:45 AM
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2. no surprises.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:51 AM
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3. When did everyone at Faux join NAMBLA?
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:51 AM
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4. When did everyone at Faux join NAMBLA?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:54 AM
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5. Um, both the e-mails and IM's are creepy
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:00 PM
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6. Yesterday he shouted down the token Dem guest -----"No NO NO NO NO"
I've never seen more of him than 30 seconds at a time, but apparently I chose a plum moment.

The Dem guest barely started speaking, mentioned, "the culture of corruption" and vehicle-assaulter SMITH pounced on her, "You are NOT doing 'culture of corruption' here!" She attempted to finish her sentence and he yelled, "NO!!!1 Not on MY show!!!1 You're NOT doing 'culture of corruption' here!!!!1" She attempted a syllable, and he SCREAMED, "NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO!!!!!!11111"

He and Matt PUDGE are sitting on the razor's edge of defending their undeclared Gay status against the false pedophile blurrings. Note that I am NOT saying that being Gay is something in itself that calls for defending---but these two are UNDECLARED, so they are "defending".
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:06 PM
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7. Shep is gay??
Who would have thunk???
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:18 PM
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8. Some people say. n/t
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:23 PM
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9. Well knock me over with a feather!
He seems so, so, so BUTCH!!!
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:34 PM
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11. Here's a Google. Apparently one main near-outing, with the rest copycatti
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-40,GGLG:en&q=Shepherd+Smith+Shep+Gay+homosexual

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http://www.pensitoreview.com/2005/10/22/fox-news-shepherd-smith-outed/

Fox News’ Shepherd Smith Outed
Posted by Jon Ponder | Oct. 22, 2005, 7:04 pm
Shepard Smith, who hosts a popular program on Fox News and received widespread praise for his work covering Hurricane Katrina’s aftermath, also dodges questions about his sexual orientation.
Smith once chatted me up in a New York City gay piano bar, bought me drinks, and invited me back to his place. When I declined, he asked me to dinner the next night, another invitation I politely refused.
We sat at the bar chatting and drinking martinis until 3 a.m., our conversation interrupted only when he paused to belt out the lyrics to whatever showtune was being performed.
– Kevin Naff, “Washington Blade” managing editor


http://www.nashvilleistalking.com/archives/2005/10/to_out_or_not_to_out.html

To Out or Not to Out
Have you heard that Fox News' Shepard Smith is gay? I hadn't until I made my rounds on the Nashville blogs today. Apparently Shep hit on a male reporter and said reporter wrote about the experience. Some people consider this an "outting" of Shepard Smith


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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:26 PM
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10. That's not a lie... it was a question
SMITH: It was the victim of the instant messages who made the "sick, sick, sick" claims, was it not?

SCHWARTZ: It was also the victim that called into Representative Alexander's office, who upon learning this, Representative Alexander -- and this is the Democrats' argument right now that you insinuated to. They -- Representative Alexander called Representative Reynolds -- the political operative, the head of the Republican National Campaign Committee -- instead of alerting leadership first. And even when leadership was informed, they did not conduct an investigation.


Smith asked for clarification about whether or not it was the emails or the instant messages that were "sick" as he was apparently of the belief that it was the IM's. Schwartz dropped the ball and didn't clarify that as was requested when Smith said "was it not?" However, if Smith had done his homework he would not have been confused and would have known whether it was the the emails or the IM's that the page referred to as "sick".




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