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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:58 PM
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MUST READ:Ben Veniste suggests Zelikow suppressed 911 briefing
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 02:59 PM by greenman3610

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/nation/15662785.htm
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Nor is it clear why the 9/11 commission never reported the briefing, which the intelligence officials said Tenet outlined to commission members Ben-Veniste and Zelikow in secret testimony at CIA headquarters. The State Department confirmed that the briefing materials were "made available to the 9/11 Commission, and Director Tenet was asked about this meeting when interviewed by the 9/11 Commission."


The three former senior intelligence officials, however, said Tenet raised the matter with the panel himself, displayed slides from the PowerPoint presentation and offered to testify on the matter in public.


Ben-Veniste confirmed to McClatchy Newspapers that Tenet outlined for the 9/11 commission the July 10 briefing to Rice in secret testimony in January 2004. He referred questions about why the commission omitted any mention of the briefing in its report to Zelikow, the report's main author. Zelikow didn't respond to e-mail and telephone queries from McClatchy Newspapers.

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Phillip Zelikow is a close associate of Condoleeza Rice
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:00 PM
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1. Zelikow should've been recused just like Kissinger was. n/t
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:02 PM
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2. absolutely, Zelikow's relationship with Rice was pointed out as a conflict
even before his appointment to the Commission.

As it turns out, his appointment was critical at keeping the pre-9/11 intel under wraps.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:15 PM
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7. But the decider get to decide all, even to not give sworn testimony
that had gotten BC into a modicum of bother.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:02 PM
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3. Well, knock ME over with a feather.
Zelikow is the LAST person who should have been involved with this "Commission".

Also, this should have been an "independent" and not "bipartisan" commission, as ALL parties involved had corporate/administrative conflicts of interest.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:04 PM
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4. What else does the American Public not know about the role of BushCo
prior to 9/11 and what they knew in advance and what warnings they had?

My husband and I lost 5 friends that day....I want to know the truth about why they died!!!!

:grr:
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hpot Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:04 PM
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5. Video: 9/11 Press for Truth
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 03:08 PM by hpot
For more information on the Bush administration's 9/11 gate keeper (Phillip Zelikow):

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q=9%2F11+press+for+truth&hl=en
(forward to 21:00)

Can he be held criminally liable?
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 04:37 PM
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13. What a video!
Watched the whole thing and am truly sick. So many of the news spots that pertained to 9-11, before and after, that was of real consequence got lost immediately and the trash talk took over. I had no idea the ISI was probably heavily involved in 9-11 for instance!

This video is a must watch.

Thanks hpot!
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:13 PM
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6. Now we know, without doubt, beyond any reasonable
question, why it was and how it came to be that Asscrack quit flying on the airlines and started utilizing strictly private corporate craft.

Yes, of course, we knew it all along, but it's nice to see the rest of the world putting the pieces together.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:15 PM
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8. The REAL SCANDAL -- Unfortunately, can't compete with perv SEX.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:24 PM
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9. I was just reading that article myself.
I think that's a reasonable conclusion to draw.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:33 PM
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10. More on Prof. Zelikow...(for those, like me, who didn't know this...)
I just found this out earlier this afternoon...

--excerpt--
In 1998, Zelikow moved to the University of Virginia, where he directed, until February 2005, the nation’s largest center on the American presidency, served as director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs and, as White Burkett Miller Professor of History, held an endowed chair.

Philip Zelikow has co-authored many books. He wrote a book with Ernest May on The Kennedy Tapes, and another with Joseph Nye and David C. King on Why People Don’t Trust Government. He wrote Germany Unified and Europe Transformed with Condoleezza Rice.

Prof. Zelikow's area of academic expertise is the creation and maintenance of, in his words, “public myths” or “public presumptions,” which he defines as “beliefs (1) thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and (2) shared in common within the relevant political community." In his academic work and elsewhere he has taken a special interest in what he has called “‘searing’ or ‘molding’ events take on ‘transcendent’ importance and, therefore, retain their power even as the experiencing generation passes from the scene. In the United States, beliefs about the formation of the nation and the Constitution remain powerful today, as do beliefs about slavery and the Civil War. World War II, Vietnam, and the civil rights struggle are more recent examples.” He has noted that “a history’s narrative power is typically linked to how readers relate to the actions of individuals in the history; if readers cannot make a connection to their own lives, then a history may fail to engage them at all” ("Thinking about Political History," Miller Center Report , pp. 5-7).

In the November-December 1998 issue of Foreign Affairs, he co-authored an article entitled “Catastrophic Terrorism,” in which he speculated that if the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center had succeeded, “the resulting horror and chaos would have exceeded our ability to describe it. Such an act of catastrophic terrorism would be a watershed event in American history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America’s fundamental sense of security, as did the Soviet atomic bomb test in 1949. Like Pearl Harbor, the event would divide our past and future into a before and after. The United States might respond with draconian measures scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects and use of deadly force. More violence could follow, either future terrorist attacks or U.S. counterattacks. Belatedly, Americans would judge their leaders negligent for not addressing terrorism more urgently.”

Philip Zelikow served on President Bush's transition team in 2000-2001. After George W. Bush took office, Zelikow was named to a position on the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, and worked on other task forces and commissions as well, including the National Commission on Federal Election Reform.

In Rise of the Vulcans (Viking, 2004), James Mann reports that when Richard Haass, a senior aide to Secretary of State Colin Powell and the director of policy planning at the State Department, drafted for the administration an overview of America’s national security strategy following September 11, Dr. Rice, the national security advisor, "ordered that the document be completely rewritten. She thought the Bush administration needed something bolder, something that would represent a more dramatic break with the ideas of the past. Rice turned the writing over to her old colleague, University of Virginia Professor Philip Zelikow.” This document, issued on September 17, 2002, is generally recognized as a watershed document in the War on Terrorism.

Because Philip Zelikow's significant involvement with the administration of George W. Bush, many have questioned the propriety of his position as executive director of the 9/11 Commission, which examined the conduct of George W. Bush and Condoleezza Rice. Both the 9/11 Family Steering Committee and 9-11 Citizens Watch demanded his resignation, due to this apparent conflict of interest, without success.


From Wikipedia
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:52 PM
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16. Even without knowledge of Zelikow's credentials, or rather signal
lack thereof, for the task, we all realised it was a whitewash, didn't we?

One of the funniest things I've seen on the television, and something I'll never forget, was Ben-Veniste's interrogation of Armitage, who was inexplicably deputising for Rice. It wasn't so much the respectful but mockingly hectoring tone he adopted, as he repeatedly sought a straight answer to his straight question, as the smiling, highly-amused sidelong looks at his colleagues on the panel; as if to say, "Can you believe his hapless wriggling and prevaricating over a simple question?" Great stuff! I think he was Wild Bill's no 1 attack dog.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:39 PM
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11. "Zelikow, the report's main author". 'Nuff said.
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 04:11 PM
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12.  A True Investigation Led By Jersey Girls With All families Of 911Victims
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 04:48 PM
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14. What a FANTASTIC IDEA!!! It's worth echoing what you said:
A True Investigation Led By Jersey Girls With All families Of 911 Victims

I think you should take this idea out onto the main GD board. I agree 1000% that a new investigation should be ordered and that the Jersey Girls should be on it. However, maybe not so much that they should LEAD it. At least not unless it was determined that they would represent a conflict of interest, such as does a doctor who would operate on his/her spouse. But, then again, there's NO ONE on this planet that wants to know the God's Honest Truth more than the Jersey Girls and all the victims' families.


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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 06:24 PM
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15. i feel ill.... Where is honor? Truth? Justice?
What has happened to my country?

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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:58 PM
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17. Kristen Breitweiser said the same thing
She said (if I recall correctly) that Zelikow was the person who made the decisions as to what to put into the report. The actual committee members were more for show.
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