**Official Foley News Conference Thread** **Live Video Link**

[truthpusher]

Live Video Link:

http://www.cbsnews.com/

[goclark]

1. Keep it kicked 10 minutes to go

[DUyellow]

100. throw his ass in jail

[anniebelle]

131. He's giving alcoholics a bad name. n/t

[Sequoia]

146. Why, I oughta, ow, wha...z-z-z-z. Boink.

[KyndCulture]

2. k

[rainbow4321]

3. kick

[aquart]

4. I don't have the right version of Windows Media Player.

I have the best version my pc can handle! But it isn't good enough for CBS.

[SammyWinstonJack]

5. ..

[goclark]

7. nine more minutes

[quiet.american]

6. If you're reading this, how about a k&r to the greatest page --

-- so that the thread will be easier to find?

[rodeodance]

124. done and thanks

[fooj]

8. Kick!

:smoke:

[truthpusher]

9. .

[KyndCulture]

10. 5 minutes.

kick

[SeattleGirl]

11. k&r

[timber84]

12. .

[truthpusher]

13. k

[ChairmanAgnostic]

14. I'll bet that Bush's best speachifying oratory wunderkids worked on it

Watch for
"It is all my fault, no one else's. It is unfair to Denny and others to suffer for my failings. It was me and my bottle, (sung to the tune of me and my shadow)"

This will be a scripted performance to save Denny's fat, lard-filled, pompous ass.

[soothsayer]

20. Me, either!

[mindfulNJ]

15. man... I am getting NOTHING done today...

:kick:

[Tarheel_Dem]

21. I know what you mean.....

I spent the whole WORKday online yesterday. I just gave up & called in today....LOL. Haven't left my computer since I woke up.

[Tarheel_Dem]

16. k

:kick:

[LeftCoast]

17. Thanks for the heads up and the link!

:kick:

[truthpusher]

18. .

[tridim]

19. Hehe, check out the microphone condom on MSNBC

:rofl:

Edit: BTW it's just a plastic bag over the mic to keep the rain off.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

22. kick

[Joanne98]

23. What do you think he's going to say?

[Gregorian]

24. I can't do it. CBS's website sucks the life force from my soul.

It makes me feel dirty.
It confuses me.
It cheapens my life.
It's like joining a cult.

Yuck. I'm worthless. I'll have to let stronger people do it.

[sweetheart]

56. share that with you, brother

suck, suck, suck... but i want to *keep* my life force.


Oh, but feed the hungry CBS demon searching for souls...

[Gregorian]

134. Haha.

We just keep on keeping on.

Man, I'm so tired...

Nice to know you are still there. Right on!

[mindfulNJ]

25. should be starting soon

:P

[RobertSeattle]

26. Do we have to take a drink everything there isa "page" joke?

[BuyingThyme]

27. Dialupers: CNN will cover this on the Tee Vee.

[KyndCulture]

29. nothing yet. on cbsnews.com

[rainbow4321]

28. I have a crappy feeling it's only going to be

Foley defending the GOP leadership..saying that Hastert and the rest are innocent, blah, blah, blah. Probably saying that the only person responsible is himself, etc.

[KyndCulture]

30. Like that's a bombshell! lol

[SeattleGirl]

33. Well, I don't know. Sometimes when people are caught doing

someting wrong, especially as bad as this, they decide they don't want to be the only one to get in trouble. So, if there are others involved, maybe he's going to name them.

Guess we'll have to see what happens.

[LoZoccolo]

39. I think you might be right.

I'm at work and thus not watching it, but that seems the most logical prediction.

[cynatnite]

49. Maybe Foley will fall on a sword so to speak...

cover for the repukes like a good little bot

[truthpusher]

31. nothing yet - any other live feeds online?

[longship]

32. Prediction: He'll out a Democrat.

That's the only thing I can think of that Foley's lawyer would be saying that would be a "bombshell".

Hope I'm wrong.

[SaveElmer]

35. Yeah that is my suspician as well...

He will attempt to drag a Democrat into the muck with him...

The only other thing is thathe may be so pissed at the Republicans throwing him under the bus he will blast them instead...

[Danieljay]

36. It wouldn't surprise me...is this the 'other foot' coming down as usual

for Dems?

[KyndCulture]

37. yeah I think so too.

[SeattleGirl]

I hope you are too, but if any Dems ARE involved in this, then

they deserve as much contempt -- as deserve to face the same legal consequences -- as any Republicans who are involved.

[longship]

Alternative view--Foley cops plea.

Maybe he pleads guilty to serious charge to avoid prison.

[spanone]

74. Maybe he's married to Rove?

[Greybnk48]

34. Who is this moran on CNN

the blonde one.

[w8liftinglady]

38. she could easily be one of my neighbors-a Stepford wife

[Greybnk48]

50. then I switch over to MSNBC and there's Pat Buchanan

saying that all pedophiles are gay. Sheeesh. I haven't watched this mess for a while, except for Keith. It's awful. I feel sorry for you w8liftinglady. I would have to isolate if I was surrounded by women like that.

[rainbow4321]

93. Notice how Tweety said the word pedophile should NOT be used

WTF?? Says the kids were 16 and 17 yrs old so it can't be considered pedophilia. He said it when he and Buchanan were talking and the word was being used.

[Lurking Dem]

114. Technically, he's right.

Pedophilia involves pre-pubescent children under the age of consent.

[WolverineDG]

121. **Technically** he's correct

A "pedophile" means someone who is attracted to pre-pubescent children. I can't recall the correct term for predators who go after teenagers. But "pedophile" is commonly used to describe both types of predators.


dg

[Lurking Dem]

130. I think "sexual predator"

about covers it. Wouldn't surprise me if they find younger boys involved somewhere in his sordid past, though.

[krkaufman]

148. Ephebophilia or hebephilia?

link

[roamer65]

123. Whew...no Democrat was mentioned

I am truly beginning to believe that this is another Rethug only scandal.

[D23MIURG23]

159. I see no reason to believe there are Dems involved.

Maybe I'm just not cynical enough to believe that EVERYONE in congress is molesting their pages, and no sane repig airs his dirty laundry to Dems, so there you go. I think we are all just nervous because we all know that the repigs will say anything to save their own asses, and they have stopped short of outright accusing Dems of identical conduct. Of course they have said LITERALLY everything else conceivable to try to mitigate this thing.
:mad: :rant:

[karlrschneider]

40. Some b**** from "Concerned women for Murka"

:puke:

[rodeodance]

43. This board is sure slow.

[MoonRiver]

42. She said sex education is THE SAME THING as Foley's emails!

OMG, stupid doesn't even begin to describe this idiot. :wow:

[feminazi]

47. oh, she didn't, did she?

you're kidding, right?

[Greybnk48]

52. Nope, she said that, among other things

[Greybnk48]

92. So his behavior is "inappropriate"

and he's not a pedophile. Bullshit.

[Greybnk48]

He's the definition of a child predator

this guy is tap dancing all over the place. Such bullshit.

[MoonRiver]

Unfortunately, I do not jest.

Her position is that both represent the "sexualization" of children.

[BuyingThyme]

87. Yes, that insane Nazi lady equivocated homosexuality and pedophilia.

Said pedophilia was a product of tolerance and diversity.

[drmondo]

150. She got it backwards

pedophilia seems to be associated with intolerance and lack of diversity. Look at where it appears: the Catholic Church and the Republican party. Hmm, isn't that special?

[KyndCulture]

41. is it on yet?

[SeattleGirl]

44. Nope, not yet. n/t

[lavenderdiva]

46. not yet, we're waiting for the attorney to appear... n/t

[timber84]

45. Why can't these things ever start on time?

[Connie_Corleone]

48. I know! I'm having a fit waiting for the bombshell.

[Richard D]

51. Last minute negotiations?

[timber84]

55. Probably waiting for the 6 olclock news to cover for more

exposure

[BattyDem]

58. Last minute threats?

Don't drop a bombshell ... or else!

[BelgianMadCow]

53. I get nothing but a CBS News Live banner on screen, that's it

same for all of you too?

[timber84]

60. same here

[Richard D]

I get that for a moment and then nothing.

[Andrea]

54. This is driving me crazy

I'm staying late at work to see this so I don't miss anything while driving. Now nothing is happening on the CBS feed. Those watching TV, anything yet? Any other sites showing the video? (I've looked at ABC.com, MSNBC.com, and CNN.com with no luck).

[stevedeshazer]

57. Hasn't started yet n/t

[Singular73]

61. CBS is just Katie Couric talking about teh Amish!

WTF..someone give me a real feed.

[DUyellow]

63. yeah, anybody have anything?

[MsKandice01]

59. Damn, we're going to be at Thread #2 before the thing even starts...

My boss is in a meeting right now. HURRY UP DAMNIT!!!

[Blue_Roses]

62. Okay, what's the deal?

I'm on a library computer with limited time...wouldn't you just know it! Damn, why is it when all the good stuff happens my computer is out...:argh:

[truthpusher]

66. Is this being shown on CNN - if so, what's happening?

[Bluebear]

64. This is a "bombshell"?

[Catherine Vincent]

65. So what happened to 5:45?!?!

[matcom]

67. THE PRIESTS ARE AT FAULT!!

:rofl:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

145. well, them, too. but don't forget Clinton.

[ClintonTyree]

158. Yep, Foley is the victim here.

Another lie. He's not an alcoholic (few Renamblacans have ever seen him drink at all) and this "revelation" that he was molested by a clergyman is pure spin bullshit as well. These people have no conscience, no morals DESPITE what they say. This stinks of GOP "damage control" to high heaven. B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T

[William Bloode]

68. His excuse

Catholic priests!

[Bluebear]

69. FOLEY was molested by clergyman at age 13-15

:eyes:

[onenote]

76. I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

What's Pat Buchanan going to say about this?

[hlthe2b]

77. I'm guessing that "alcohol is to blame" excuse just wasn't

cutting it, eh?

For God's sake....

[mtnester]

70. It is the Catholic Church's fault!

molested by a clergy man

[Hoping4Change]

126. Lawyer says he doesn't know what religion the cleryman was.

[rodeodance]

135. good grief. This story gets weirder and weirder.

[Hoping4Change]

138. Lawyer says there is 138 releigions in the world./

[krkaufman]

147. Well, it makes sense. Since Hastert and the Repub. leadership ...

... treated Foley's activity w/ the same seriousness as the Catholic Church did pedophile priests.

[Horse with no Name]

71. Wah wah wah

"I was molested, therefore I am a molester"
However, he doesn't want to make excuses for what he has done.:eyes:

[teach1st]

72. Foley claims he was molested by a clergyman..

..when he was 14 and 15.

And he is gay.

[rfranklin]

86. Thanks to the Pope! Molestation is a sacrament...

Jacking off in the confessional washes away all sins.

[Tripper11]

73. Live on MSNBC now

Attorney blaming his past...and he just outed him! Obviously not behind his back or anything...but the attorney said he is gay..Foley, not the attorney!

[ForeverWinter]

78. Bombshell my ass.

Excuse more like.

[alpharaptor]

161. bombshell a dud

When Ed Shultz said Foley was gonna make an announcement at 6:00 and it was a "bombshell" I thought wow he's gonna turn himself in and face justice for his actions. So he admits to something we all know already and blames someone else. I'm surprised he didn't say that the priest who abused him was a Democrat. That's probably yet to come.

[Debi]

75. Oh For Fuck's sake

It's the Catholic's fault :puke:

[Tripper11]

85. Seriously, since when do these pigs take responsibilty....

FOR ANYTHING!!!! It's always someone elses fault. FUCKING ASSHOLES!

[MallRat]

79. Foley was molested by a clergyman?

Well, then that makes it all OK now.

:sarcasm:

[spanone]

89. Bullshit, and who cares? A swing and a miss.

[AtomicKitten]

80. he was diddled and now he's paying it forward

eom

[KyndCulture]

81. He's gay.

That's a bombshell??

[BurtWorm]

99. You're kidding!

That's a bombshell?

:wtf:

I wonder how much shrapnel that threw out. :eyes:

[Andrea]

82. WTF?

Feed finally came on and all he said is he's gay and in a rehab. What's the bombshell?

[toadzilla]

83. nothing yet? im on a mac, no windows player for me.

...

[MoonRiver]

84. I figured this would be a croc of excuses.

Maybe he thinks he can sue the Catholic Church on behalf of himself and all those he has abused.

[Silvermint]

88. Originally he blamed alcoholism

What's actually to blame here? Alcohol or the Catholic Church? Or, *gasp*, Foley himself?

[quiet.american]

90. Little late to defiantly announce "he's a gay man!"

Oh, brother. Thanks -- I would have never guessed.

[hatrack]

91. So that's it? He was molested? He's gay? That's the bombshell?

Meanwhile, 263 people were killed in Iraq today, if anyone's paying attention . . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2543153

[Richard D]

96. It's a dud.

[Blue_Roses]

94. this is it????

he's a gay man that was molested by a priest? :eyes: give me an effing break.

This man is beyond pathetic. This is his excuse?

Good grief:eyes:

[Crunchy Frog]

95. So what the fuck was the "bombshell"?

"He's in recovery and he's a gay man"...:wtf:

[rodeodance]

97. PLEASE==make another Thread. this one is real slow

[rodeodance]

103. can we have another offical thread please?

[rodeodance]

106. k

[rodeodance]

109. k

[rodeodance]

110. k

[rodeodance]

112. k

[w8liftinglady]

98. and that absolves reynolds,Hastert because....

[Tarheel_Dem]

I see major class action suits coming out of this.....

[bunny planet]

101. that's very sad and all but....

WHAT ABOUT THE COVER-UP???????????????
WTF

[w8liftinglady]

102. Mark intends to preserve computer evidence!!!!!he still has his computer

[Janice325]

104. Big fucking woo.

I'm a survivor of sexual abuse, I'm a lesbian, I'm not an alcoholic, I've had therapy for a variety of issues (due to the abuse) I'm a productive human being, consider myself kind and considerate.
His attorney ends with "he's (Foley) is a gay man." I'm shocked, simply shocked I tell you. :sarcasm:
I have no sympathy for Foley or anyone else involved in this coverup.
Fuck them.

[Catherine Vincent]

105. So why didn't he seek help?

And why did he become a politician?

[Danieljay]

116. like most addicts..he had to hit bottom first... n/t

[Danieljay]

107. Over 85% of sex addicts have been abused - physically or sexually

according to most therapists. That isn't an excuse for his behavior but it sure explains a lot.

[The Wizard]

108. sound and fury

signifying nothing

[Idioteque]

111. Seeing as he is Catholic, I doubt he was molested by a rabbi or imam. nt

[rodeodance]

119. PLEASE==make another Thread. this one is real slow==thanks

[Bluebear]

113. Attorney: "Good try!" . . let me up, counsellor, you're not that important

[mindfulNJ]

115. wasn't exactly a bunker -buster now was it?

:wtf:

[bunny planet]

117. so Foley was molested as a young boy

and so the cycle of abuse continues right under the nose of the Republican leadership.
and this helps them...exactly how???
It doesn't.

[Cha]

129. I don't even believe that.

Prove it! I say.

[Andrea]

118. Apparently this attorney

has a very loose definition of "bombshell". I usually don't consider things everyone knows or expects to be bombshells.

[Horse with no Name]

120. Since when is having your attorney cover your ass

part of a 12-step program?:shrug:

[flyarm]

122. wait a minute this lawyer is using the boozing excuse for his emails and

behaviour..

but there are emails here today and on ABC that he was voting on the floor and was writing between the votes

so was he drunk when he was voting in congress and no one noticed??

or is this what we all prob. believe this lawyer is full of rat shit!!

this is just bullshit..total bullshit..

now the lawyer is saying foley was not drinking while a public servant...so this lawyer has no clue to the im's released today!!

fly

[Danieljay]

125. This is a stretch.... according to the attorney's logic... Foley must have

been under the influence while voting on the house floor.

[mindfulNJ]

127. hoo boy

Mr Lawyer man is not going to be happy when he sees the cybering was done DURING a vote.

[BelgianMadCow]

128. next sec he says he has no evidence of drinking wtf??

he is coming slightly apart

[rodeodance]

132. Foley is a coward who is hiding out. Period. It is a disservice to those

with real problems who seek treatment.

[Andrea]

133. Well, much ado about nothing.

[Swede Atlanta]

136. Huh? What does his alleged "molestation" have to do with his crimes?

Okay, I don't get it. He thinks we are going to accept the fact that he is an alcoholic (which if he is I fully support his efforts to recover from this dreaded disease) and that he was molested as a child as justification for his inappropriate mistreatment of young male pages? Somehow if you were molested as a child you should get a free pass on molesting yourself? It makes no sense but remember in Repukeland we have gone down the rabbit hole.

[mindfulNJ]

137. C'mon...get your story straight

OK...the drinking made him a pedophile, but he was NOT drunk on the floor of the house when he was cybering with the minor???

[Spazito]

139. Wow, was that a crock of shit or what....

Talk about pathetic, both in it's content and it's ineptitude. The lawyer should have checked the latest news, gone to the ABC website BEFORE coming out so he could have retained a modicum of credibility.

I don't believe any of what the lawyer said, not one word.

Edited to add: Guess the freepers will be even more frustrated given they were on their hairy knees praying that the lawyer was going to name a Dem, rofl!

[ncrainbowgrrl]

140. Locking- time for thread #2

over here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2300921&mesg_id=2300921

[ncrainbowgrrl]

141. locking- time for thread #2

next thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2300921&mesg_id=2300921

[2QT2BSTR8]

142. The gay topic will again be key in this next election...

I can just see it now. With Foley blaming his homosexuality, and that will just recharge all of the conservatives. As a proud gay American, I just don't see that this will be played out other than a negative against gays.

[mtmalc]

143. Isn't it awfully convenient?

How coincidental is it that within the same week that Bob Woodward's book comes out that the Mark Foley scandal emerges?

I mean, Bob Woodward outlines specific meetings between Rice and Tenet, not to mention other items contained within the book that completely discredit the Republican hold on the War on Terror. When the Emperor's clothes are removed, what do you do?

Why not take the focus off the one item where they lead in the polls, and focus on something completely off topic. There's something particularly Rovian about this, but would they really throw one of their own up under the bus?

And now he's claiming it was everyone's fault except his own. He's gay, he's an alcoholic, he was molested by a clergyman. LIES! He's just a pedophile, plain and simple. Don't muddy the fine reputation of gays by claiming that's the root of the problem. When did it become right for the right wing to focus on the political detriment to their party when there's a bigger issue here. WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS HE DID THIS TO?

ARE THEY FOR REAL? It looks like America is finally waking up to this HORRIBLE situation and can finally see through all of the bulls**t. Let's hope it continues!

[Sapere aude]

151. Welcome to DU!

I hear you, I always wonder how one becomes a pedophile. I don't think it is a choice someone makes. I don't excuse the behavior. I do feel there are environmental causes though.

[D23MIURG23]

160. Its an interesting theory but I doubt this was planned.

"moral values" (read "facist sexual repression") is another republican strongpoint. If they were going to launch a diversion I think they would shun something with this much potential for devestation, particularly given its envolvment with the GOP leadership in the house.

If this was Bush sacking Rumsfeld and appointing Chuch Norris I'd say you were right on the money.

It is a little odd that the first network that aired the allegations was ABC however...

[mark wayne]

144. The "abuse" excuse:

Now he claims he was sexually molested as a teenager by a clergyman. Can you say desperate?

[TheDonkey]

155. 1st excuse of "alcoholism" fell through. Total slime.

[chelsea0011]

149. Oh, for christ sakes!

[bluhoodie]

152. Spin makes HIM the victim... Didn't we know this was coming?

I mean, they just HAD to find a way to make HIM the victim. Couldn't really say it was the fault of the young "studs" who tempted him. So, OF COURSE, they'd come up with this one. Dems and others can't be seen as BLAMING THE VICTIM after all...
:nopity:

[demo dutch]

153. It's a bunch of BS and they're doing damage contro... Poor Foley!

[NJCher]

157. Hi bluhoodie

:nopity: We got us a chorus line going here!




Cher

[D23MIURG23]

163. Maybe I'm out of touch but I don't think this will help that much

It could be wishful thinking but this REEKS of desperation to me. I feel like I've seen better damage control out of the repigs than this. I can't fathom a sexual predator being bought as a victim. A bridge to far perhaps?

[TheDonkey]

154. WHAT A SCUMBAG!

Took the GLBT movement back 50 years with his disgusting behavior and cop-out excuses. Lock this slime up.

[Anakin Skywalker]

156. Oh, Why the Hell Not Just Pull an Ollie

defense tactic and say "I DON'T RECALL"? Oh wait. There are IM logs.

[Marie26]

162. Did anyone hear

an apology in all that? Or is that too much to ask?