20 million American Catholics just hid under their beds.

[WilliamPitt]

Egads.

[cynatnite]

1. Notice he didn't fall on the repub sword n/t

[MichiganVote]

2. LOL!! And the Bishops are jamming up the phones calling each other!

Run away! Run away!!

[Ian David]

19. Brother Maynard! Bring forth the Holy Hand Grenade of Pope Ratso!

[MichiganVote]

21. Gonna need a whole new sacrament for this stuff

[spanone]

38. That IS The Bomb! Great Pic

[Lone_Star_Dem]

3. I almost did

And I don't even practice anymore.


Yes, Egads.

[htuttle]

4. It's like the punchline of a huge cosmic joke

[DemReadingDU]

5. not necessarily Catholic

attorney isn't saying whether priest, rabbi, or whatever

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

10. Well, Foley is Catholic, so... -nt

[Jacobin]

25. Nope. He's the member of a baptist church.

At least now he is. I found their website with his pics all over it

[deathdog]

32. No

Just gets their support. NOt a member.

[Jacobin]

40. He's all over their website

The impression from the church website was that he was a member, but it never said it directly. Thanks for correction.

Does he attend a Catholic church?

[Ian David]

20. My guess is it was all three... at the same time

At least, they SAID they were priest, a rabbi and a whatever.

It was Halloween and he was drunk.

Who knows?

[SDDEM06]

6. Dear Catholic Americans shoving your agenda down our throats:

Karma is a bitch.

Warm regards,

Me

[ShaneGR]

36. Ermmmmm.... our agenda?

The American Catholic church has been surprisingly silent on national issues. You can point fingers at the pope. But not the American bishops, who have been pretty darn silent the last decade when it came to American policy. You can blame 95% of that on the pedophilia scandals. If you want to point fingers at the religious crisis in America, point it where it belongs. The born again (with a baptist background) movement.

[SDDEM06]

37. I'm in South Dakota...

we are battling over abortion.

The anti-choice movement is holding their fundraisers in the Catholic Churches.

The bishop of the Sioux Falls dioceses sent around a video to the churches this weekend urging everyone to vote yes on referred law 6.

The clergy are holding up sample ballots during their services and showing the sheep how to properly vote yes because that's what God demands they do.

The answer I hear the most often when asking "What do you think of the abortion ban?" is "I go to a Catholic church." "My condolences." I didn't ask what the church thinks - I asked what YOU thought. Unfortunately, a lot of Catholics are trained not to think for themselves.

Sorry if I paint with a broad brush, but I detest Catholic dogma and am surrounded by it up here.

[nini]

41. broad brush - a very broad brush

There are plenty of liberal Catholics who are pro-choice and who think for themselves. Sounds like your problem is the area you live in too.



I know exactly where you are coming from, but as a liberal Catholic who gets it, I really get sick of being compared to those idiots. Too bad the masses can't see what I see, but just like the Repukes in general - the nutjobs get all the attention.

[rzemanfl]

7. Once the separation of church and state was breached, did

anyone really think that the sectarian battles wouldn't soon follow? Welcome to the Dark Ages.

[MADem]

8. The guy didn't SAY catholic...you know he would have if he could NT

[Philosoraptor]

9. not a priest, not a rabbi, not an immam

[MADem]

18. Well, further research reveals the guy IS a Catholic, apparently

Went to catholic school as a lad!!! A prochoice Catholic, too, which makes it easier to toss him under the bus!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley

[Cha]

11. What if it's a lie? What if

he's making it up to try and shift the blame off his little feral repuke self and put it on the Catholic Priests?

[Philosoraptor]

13. its a pity lie

[LostinVA]

29. Yup, thought the same thing...

[Midlodemocrat]

30. I'm absolutely CONVINCED it's a lie.

If not, why didn't he stand up and tell his story when the scandals broke? He could have used the hysteria that followed the breaking stories to further his own agendas in Congress.

He's a worthless POS.

[KoKo]

12. I know...Foley was Molested by a Priest.....and that led to his terrible

downfall. Between the ages of 13 and 15 years of age. (I assume he was an "Alter Boy?" ...taken advantage of....)

How long did it take them to concoct this one. Like ...he couldn't have gotten HELP given that we all have known about Priest Abuse for YEARS!!!!

:eyes: It's AMAZING what a GOOD LAWYER can do these days............

[Autumn]

14. Hey, it might

have been Jerry Foulwell, they didn't say it was a priest.

[damntexdem]

15. No, a good proportion of them already know whom to blame:

pedophile priests and their enabling bishops.

[flowomo]

16. Foley was born in Newton (Boston)....

could be a clue, given the city's recent history with clergy molestation. He had moved by high school, but not sure when.

http://www.nndb.com/people/545/000037434/

[deathdog]

33. Hmmm...curiouser and curiouser

:popcorn:

[Little Star]

Tweety said HS in FL

[flowomo]

39. yes, as I noted in OP, but not clear when he moved....

"molestation" occurred between ages 13-16, and ppossibly before HS move to Florida. But maybe not.

[Warren DeMontague]

17. It'd be nice if this was finally the impetus for the Vatican to stop

lecturing consenting adults about their sex lives and birth control usage, and start cleaning their own damn house.

A man can dream, I suppose.

[ContraBass Black]

22. WTF is going on?

[LSK]

23. so did the GOP just loose the Catholic vote now too?

:popcorn:

[guinivere]

34. You betcha.

I'm pretty sure this guy is a lying sack o'crap with this. Too convenient.




:popcorn:

[Warren DeMontague]

24. "Yeah, but it was one of those Liberal, Free Love, Pot-Smoking, Evolution

Teaching, Grateful Dead listening, Secular Humanist Priests!"

[Hubert Flottz]

26. So he decided to take up the serpent too?

Now you see why I've always chosen a life of sin...

[NashVegas]

27. I Still Think We Can Find a Way to Use This

Once everyone calms down.

[KoKo]

28. OPUS DEI.....Shrieks in Horror and Runs out of the Room...taking their

Rosaries...saying: "We aren't going to PLAY WITH YOU GUYS ANYMORE!"

[stepnw1f]

31. So.... Can We Rebuild That Seperation Between Church and State Again?

The church should take care of it's own back yard before telling the rest of the World what to do.

[Raksha]

35. Let's face it: Conservatives don't think hypocrisy is all that bad.

That is the inescapable conclusion that's been growing on me as this Foley saga unfolds, and especially since reading part of an editorial yesterday that pointed out that IDEOLOGICAL purity is the only kind of purity that matters to them. I'm using the word "conservative" in its broadest sense to mean both religious and political conservatives, which of course would include the Catholic Church.

I think this is an absolute dividing line between liberals and conservatives. Over and over again, I see liberals saying they are revolted by the HYPOCRISY of it all, and of course I totally share that feeling. But far from being bothered by the hypocrisy, when conservatives are pushed up against the wall they actually defend it. They claim to be supporting an "ideal" even if their own members or constituents fall abysmally short of that ideal. The important thing is to give LIP SERVICE to that "ideal" whether it actually is one or not.

Throughout the history of the Catholic Church, the HERETIC was the one considered more deserving of death than the HYPOCRITE. To fail to give lip service to the "ideal" or the "dogma," to say that the dogma is WRONG or UNTRUE, was far more subversive than violating it in practice. And it still is.

I realize I'm not saying this very well but I think it's an important point to consider.

[DinahMoeHum]

42. "There may be no peace for the wicked. . .but. . .

the righteous always manage to get a piece whenever they feel like it"

- V for Vendetta (graphic novel, NOT the movie)


:evilfrown: