Revenge When We Take Back Power.

[phrenzy]

Yes. I want it. Use every tool the RW has exploited under the power of Shrub and turn it against them. Ten fold.

Where to start?

[tsuki]

1. No revenge. But I would like a general clean-up, beginning with

K Street.

[unblock]

2. search and seizure and probable declassification of presidential papers

i want every american to see what that bastard did. poppy, too.

ok, to SOME checking for LEGITIMATE national security, things that REALLY SHOULD be secret.

but release all the CRAP.

ALL OF IT.

[acmejack]

23. Poppy has buried the bodies!

The man is dirty, dirty, dirty!

[havocmom]

3. Revenge will fuck us. Work for truth & justice

That is the worst payback we could give them anyway. Tit of tat just doesn't work.

[unblock]

6. game theory says "tit for tat and then forgiveness" is most effective

never you have to somehow punish the other guy but you can't escalate or carry a grudge.
a measured response is appropriate and necessary.

otherwise, they learn they sometimes gain but never lose by pulling that kind of crap.

[BillZBubb]

13. WRONG! Tit-for-Tat is the most successful strategy.

Buy a book on game theory. When more Democrats and progressives understand this, we will finally have a chance.

[Lori Price CLG]

48. We did that. Now, they're building detention centers for us! It's time

to treat this as a war, as Rove does. That's why the Reichwing wins every single battle, and mocks us.

Lori Price

[havocmom]

51. I do treat it as war. And know the penalty of failing

Talking revenge is NOT how to get the people behind us.

Nobody who knows me would call me a doormat nor a shrinking violet. But I will not talk revenge. That is wasted energy and gives fuel to one's enemy.

[Avalux]

4. Nope.

I refuse to use their tactics, we only need the truth to take them down. Not interested in revenge, otherwise we are no better than them.

[mikelewis]

18. I agree...

I want the criminals to go to jail but other than that, I'd rather forgive these past 10 years or so. Revenge only leaves a nation hollow.

[KittyWampus]

25. IMO, Truth & Reconciliation Hearings might be best. People would have

more of an inclination to cooperate and spill their guts that way.

[jwirr]

29. That is not revenge - that is justice.

[AZBlue]

40. Bingo!

Undo the tax cuts for the wealthy, prosecute the criminals, make sure all votes count, restore programs they greedily cut, provide health care coverage for the uninsured, get corporations out of our government, and clean up the messes they made domestically and internationally...but the minute the Dems lower themselves to the Reps' level, THAT'S when I leave the party!

[elehhhhna]

5. JUSTICE is not revenge, though it will seem so to them

Bring it on!

[NanceGreggs]

12. Hear, hear!

Rescind all tax cuts to the wealthy, retroactively!

Slam Big Corporations with a bill for the taxes they SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING all along, retroactively!

Companies who have outsourced American jobs will not be allowed to sell their products in the United States!

Corporations who have cut wages of their workers while awarding themselves huge bonuses will RETURN every penny, to be distributed among the workforce - retroactively!

GOD, THIS IS FUN!!!!!

[Skeet]

42. I don't think that would work since ex post facto laws are

unconstitutional. But I guess this is just fantasy.

[tabasco]

24. That's the right answer.

Revenge is not a valid objective.

Justice is a valid objective. It will seem just the same to criminal republicans, who have robbed us and weakened our Nation.

[Salviati]

27. We give them the truth, they think it's hell...

We'll give them justice, they'll think it's vengance

[BlueEyedSon]

7. Revenge, AND plug up all the holes in the system that enable neofascism.

[mandyky]

8. Oh gawd, please no more revenge

We have to unite and educate our citizens. If we take back Congress, we need to lead by example, not become as corrupt and mean-spirited as the GOP.

[hwmnbn]

9. hmmm, that's a close call.....

ummmm, let's see.......uh.......well.....

I WANT REVENGE for what they've put our country through. I want justice and restitution, call it what you will.

[htuttle]

10. I was thinking we'd just shave all their heads

It worked for the French after WWII.

:shrug:

[maveric]

37. I was just thinking that.

Imagine seeing Anne Coulter with a shaved head and swaztika painted on her forehead.

[htuttle]

39. Doesn't she already have a swastika on her forehead?

Oops, nevermind. I'm always confusing her with Charles Manson...

[phrenzy]

11. Justice Must Be Done

What they have done to this country is unforgiveable. Once in power, we will need to use every tool possible to expose the crimes that have been committed against this country. There MUST be accountability.

[meganmonkey]

32. Justice and accountability are NOT the same as revenge. n/t

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

14. Clean up their mess

reinstitute ALL articles and amendments to the Constitution. Make sure ALL elections are fair. THis isn't vengence-it is justice.

[Ian David]

15. Change the flag to just blue and white

[Dave Reynolds]

16. I think that whole "two wrongs do not make a right" thing

would be appropriate in this spot.

[NanceGreggs]

21. How about the "Too Many Wrongs Do Make a Right-Winger" ...

... thing?

There are too many Republicans who, under the auspices of their beloved leader, have DAMAGED my country -- yes, MY country, not THEIRS.

The past five years have not been 'politics as usual', with one side snapping at the other.

You don't let TRAITORS walk away at the end of their tenure, with a wave of the hand and a, "Let's let bygones be bygones."

As someone posted above, setting JUSTICE back on track is not REVENGE -- it will just SEEM LIKE IT to the deserving people who will get their just desserts ...

[Dave Reynolds]

28. Justice, yes.

Revenge, no. Revenge dressed as justice, no.

[NanceGreggs]

30. Where would the injustice be?

I posted (above) what I would like to see done. Forcing corporations and Bush cronies to pay back the taxes they've gotten away with is not revenge, it's justice.

Not allowing US corporations that outsource American jobs to sell their wares in-country - again, fair's fair.

Bringing charges of treason against those who LIED us into a war that has cost innocent lives, and has depleted the country's coffers of TAXPAYERS' dollars, those who sold their political favours for money, those who manipulated our voting machines so that the will of the people was thwarted -- no, not revenge. Justice.

[BillZBubb]

17. Start by reigning in the corrupt right wing media.

Bring back the fairness doctrine. Force the corporate media whores to honestly report instead of parroting the RNC line. Cut back on the size of media conglomerates. Etc.

[1620rock]

22. String them up by their heels and burn down their houses.....

...and then salt the earth where they stood that nothing shall ever grow there! :mad:

[Gidney N Cloyd]

19. Job One: Figure out where all the money went.

[mmonk]

20. It depends if we can get revenge

with a rightwing ideological court (though it will force them into a quandry about the "unitary executive" part.

[ToolTex]

26. I doubt that power can be taken back in our lifetimes.

Why should they give it up? They hold the cards. After Alito is installed they will hold ALL the cards. We won't get back to even, let alone control. Quit being silly, our democracy has been lost.

[meganmonkey]

31. Rise above it, man

Really. Revenge is a dark, dark thing.

[cascadiance]

33. I want CORRECTIVE tax rates on the wealthy!

Bring back the top marginal rates before JFK lowered them in the 60's!

[mitchum]

34. Up against the wall

[upi402]

35. YES, anything else is seen as weakness by prison mentality neocons

And they always always always exploit our "make-nice" weakness.

Time to wear a mit and cup and use a bat, when playing hardball.

[Fire Walk With Me]

36. We need a check and balance against corrupt lawmakers.

Everything Abramoff (sp) supported should be immediately negated, for example.

Somehow, this sort of legal trash remains and festers. It should be tossed immediately. This is something we can try to make happen right now.

[LittleClarkie]

38. Hypocracy. We've been decrying all these tactics

Why? Because the Republicans were using them, or because they were wrong? If only because the Republicans were using them, then that's not what I've been fighting for. Because they were wrong? Then why would we want to be wrong?

So then, when the Dems become as corrupt as the Repubs, and the Repubs take power again, they exact revenge in return.

I'd hate for someone to tell me that's what's been going on all along. Did the Dems use thses tools before? Is that why the Republicans use them now? And then we use them. And then they use them. Whoopie. :sarcasm:

Surely not.

[Throd]

41. Someone has to be the adult

Revenge is very tempting to be sure, but it can be very self-destructive. I remember a few instances in my life when people who had wronged me expected revenge. Had I taken such revenge they could have then donned the cloak of "victimhood" therefore justifying whatever they had done in the first place. The best route is to dismantle any mechanisms that have been used unfairly against you when you have the ability to do so.

[upi402]

44. Geez, but that's why we get our ass kicked

by these thugs.
We better learn from the pain cuz these bullies do not operate on the same plane as we would like to.
They nave only gotten worse, more emboldened by out restraint.
Prison mentality.

Time to face the circumstances and deal with it as it is.
Not as we would feel good about ourselves doing it.

[Throd]

49. Bloodied but unbowed...

I'm just sayin' I have some heavy regrets concerning how I retaliated against some people in my past. I used to be a violent idiot. Now I'm still an idiot but have lost my appetite for violence.

Let me rephrase and say that any retaliation within the law would be okay. Its when people start to advocate means beyond that is when I get off the bus.

[H2O Man]

43. Where to start?

With yourself. I say that respectfully.

[foreigncorrespondent]

45. Revenge is too right wing like!

Who wants to turn into them?

[RandomKoolzip]

46. That's the thing; THEY think they're getting revenge on US

right now. The rightists see the stripping away of government programs, the gratuitous buildup of the defense industry, the repeal of environmental protections, the eventual death of Roe v. Wade, etc. as revenge for the 60's. For whatever reason, the 60's really traumatized these people, and their every move, every piece of legislation, every thunderous speech, is a reactionary gesture to the social changes the underclasses demanded and won back then. They see Bush's reign as Divine Retribution to the progress the past decades have brought.

So when we plan "revenge," remember: they're seeing US as the antagonists in this scenario (even though we're not.)

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

47. Start With Not Being Vindictive, And Restoring Integrity.

We shouldn't want to take back power just to become just like them but on the winning side of the evil. That is just counter-productive to ALL that we are doing here and quite simply wrong.

[applegrove]

50. No revenge. Just get back governance and run things well. And help

people. And sit back and let the intellectuals disect the rats. So humanity can learn ... one more time.. about the personality types who should never be alloud power.

[Swamp Rat]

52. I WANT JUSTICE!!!

I want justice for the murder for my fellow Americans WHO DIED, and were MAIMED FOR LIFE, and were left HOMELESS AND DESTITUTE because of this administration.

To those who support these neo-Nazis: WARNING!

Justice will be HARSH! It will feel a lot WORSE than revenge, AND we will NEVER LET YOU FORGET WHAT YOU DID TO AMERICA FOR AS LONG AS YOU LIVE!!! :grr:

[bluestateguy]

53. We're going to have so much fun with the Patriot Act and the NSA spying

Heh, heh, heh....