Calling all recovering people. Ever been in treatment? What

[rzemanfl]

do you think of a treatment program that allows someone to log on to their Internet account during their first few days in treatment? I smell Church of Scientology here. Anybody else?

[KyndCulture]

1. I smell a horseshit program.

He's being hidden away til after the election.

I've been an inpatient several times. No COMPUTERS allowed.

[Avalux]

2. They work fast, that's for sure.

All these revelations within the first few days, wow! At this rate, he'll be released, cured of his gayness and married to a woman and on the campaign trail by next week!

[graywarrior]

3. You get locked up for 28 days...no contact with anyone outside

including family unless they show up for therapy.

[rzemanfl]

7. We went to seven meeting a week as a group then back to

to the hospital. Five and a half days a week of therapy in the daytime, then meetings at night.

[sandnsea]

12. We had visiting days after a week

Depends on the program I guess. I can't imagine any decent program giving internet privileges this soon though. Or letting a lawyer make statements, etc. What happened to no major decisions for a year? Outing yourself and telling the world about being molested is a pretty major decision.

[rzemanfl]

17. Us too on Sundays. This non-12 step program at ATI is where

he's at I bet. Looks expensive, but he has plenty of $$$$$.

[slackmaster]

4. I had a mild case of road rage

It was cured by a couple of sentences from a psychologist who actually understood the rational male mind.

"We have a special name for people who try to pick a fight with you on the road. They're assholes. Stay away from them. Do not engage them."

[flyarm]

5. it was probably his lawyers!..or fbi..but most likely his lawyers!

or the congressional lawyers..

it wasn't him..i would bet the farm on that!

fly

[mike_c]

6. I'll bet he's at ATI in Clearwater-- they make a point of NOT being...

...a 12 step program. Frankly, they don't look like very effective rehab, but I've never been there so that's just me sayin'. They're psychologists and therapists however, so I doubt they have any connection to the church of scientology. Actually, reading their web site, they let patients take prescription meds, including psych meds while in treatment, so I'm pretty certain they aren't scientologists. Pretty cushy, too-- just the thing for a politician needing a place to hide. http://www.alternative2rehab.com/main.html

[rzemanfl]

8. I have lived three miles from Clearwater for ten years and never

heard of this place before tonight. They sure make it look like the "easier softer way" don't they?

[mike_c]

9. most rehab programs don't publicize themselves much unless...

...they're institutional. Keeps the neighbors happier AND makes the clients feel safer and more anonymous.

[rzemanfl]

15. By institutional I assume you mean hospitals, the one I went to

advertised on TV.

[mike_c]

19. yeah, I meant that most private ones don't hang out a big sign...

...that says "ADDICTS RECOVERING HERE!" A thousand people a day drive by the one my ex used, but I'll bet only one or two a week know it's a residential rehab center. It looks like a well worn vacation resort.

[rzemanfl]

21. Did your ex get pampered like this place claims to do for its

"guests?"

[mike_c]

24. lol-- no, she went to a regular meeting, counseling, and working the steps

...kinda place. Two bunks per one-room cabin, with a tiny attached bathroom. Nice rustic paths, dining hall, and meeting/counseling rooms, however. Beautiful forested river frontage. Meals were pretty good. The usual drill-- no contact for the first week, then limited contact on Sunday only, public meetings on Sunday, lunch and a walk beside the river, then "thank you very much for visiting us...." She stayed three months-- 28 days + after-care. They were good folks, probably saved her life. I hope she's still OK.

[rzemanfl]

30. I was in a traditional hospital type setting. My first roomate was

a muscular black drug addict. He always made his bed perfectly, when I mentioned it he said "yeah, I learned that in prison."

On edit, the food there was great too.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. I'm guessing an FBI agent turned on his computer...

and it logged on automatically.

[rzemanfl]

16. Never thought of that, excellent point. Did you suggest that to

the folks who were reporting it? Although there is a post below that indicates there is a treatment facility in Clearwater that allows its residents internet privileges.

[Spazito]

20. According to foley's lawyer today, foley still has his computer

it has not been taken, foley has promised not to delete anything, etc.

Edited to add: According to his lawyer, there has been NO contact with law enforcement at all.

Here is more info on that:

Despite the fact that Foley's attorney has said Foley admits to sending the "totally inappropriate" e-mails and IMs, the FBI has still not seized his computer and hard drive.

"Mark has absolutely agreed on his own and with our counsel not to do anything with any computer, not to delete any messages, not to obliterate or attempt to obliterate any IMs, e-mails, Internet communications," said Roth.

The FBI confirmed today that it has not drawn up a search warrant for the equipment because the investigation is still preliminary, and they are still examining the messages they've obtained so far.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/10/fbi_contacting_.html

[rzemanfl]

23. What about the one at the Capitol? I don't do ABC. n/t

[Spazito]

25. foley's office has been sealed off by the Capital Police as of Monday

so, it seems, the office and the computer were not protected until then. From the article the authorities have only been trying to contact former pages, examining the IMs. They have not gotten search warrants to examine anything.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

26. According to some other story...

(posted on DU, can't remember where) Foley's congressional office was closed up and is being investigated by the FBI.

So I imagine Foley's got his laptop but not his desktop.

:shrug:

[dsc]

11. I was in detox for five days

and I had to ask to use a phone, no computers, no nothing. We did meetings and conseling and sleep. That was all.

[mike_c]

13. I'm still thinking ATI-- they don't do detox, no lockdown...

...and no 12 step program. Foley would not have likely needed detox in any event-- I'm sure he could arrive sober-- AND with a 30 day script for something to calm his nerves, most likely. He's probably sitting by the pool right now....

[dsc]

14. No scripts either

the only stuff I took they gave me. Librium was the pill of choice.

[SeattleGirl]

18. I worked in several treatment centers, and NONE of them would

have allowed such a thing. The patients cannot make phone calls for the first week or so. Family only visits on weekends. No cell phones, computers, etc. The focus is supposed to be on facing one's addiction, and thus no one would be allowed to do that. However, I never worked at "country club" treatment centers, so who the hell knows.

Also, if, as Mr. Foley and his attorney claim, part of the reason for his actions with the pages is the his alcoholism, allowing him to get online again would be the absolute worst thing they could do. The treatment center would, in effect, be enabling this man to continue his reprehensible behavior.

[rzemanfl]

22. See the excellent suggestion above that the log on may have

happened when the FBI booted his PC.

[SeattleGirl]

27. Thanks for pointing that out. Man, there's been so much

going on for the past few days, it's difficult to keep up with it all.

[rzemanfl]

28. But see other posts suggesting FBI does not have warrants yet.

[rzemanfl]

29. IF I WERE THE NEWS MEDIA WHO WATCH DU, I WOULD

FIND THE HOME ADDRESS OF ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTED AS STAFF AT ATI, FOLLOW THEM TO WORK AND PARK A CAMERA TRUCK THERE. But then that would be violating the perverts privacy, now wouldn't it?

mike_c deserves a lot of credit for the find. I live in the area and asked around, no one mentioned ATI and I had never heard of the place. If Foley is in Clearwater, dollars to doughnuts he's there.