ABC News; "Al Qaeda and Taliban flourishing in Pakistan"

[xray s]

That was the lead story tonight. Footage of Taliban openly recruiting. Controlling local government.

US worried any move against them will cause an uprising, possibly putting Pakistan nukes in the hands of some very bad people.

W going to Pakistan next week. Oh boy....

[leftchick]

1. and the contrast with the "sunny story" from the WH

and dimson sitting there saying the taliban are gone. :eyes:

[xchrom]

8. gone... yeah...

stupid motherfucker:spray:

[AX10]

2. Where's the "sunny nobility" Chris?

Also, America is making a GRAVE mistake by keeping such a close alliance with Pakistan. THEY do NOT have our (America's) best interests in mind.

[blossomstar]

3. his head is stuck up GWB where the sun doesn't shine...

[Tesla]

4. Yeah, but Afghanistan is free!!!

[Kahuna]

5. Amen to that. Them, and Saudi Arabia too.

nt

[Surya Gayatri]

6. IMHO, that missile attack up in the Hindukush

a week or so ago (where 20 innocents were killed) was a harbinger of worse to come. Musharaf is hanging on to power by sheer brute force which is being undermined from within--the whole northern part of the country will become a no-go area soon enough. Who's going to stop the Taliban when the people are with them? Watch this get very scary. SG

Edit: :nuke:

[AX10]

9. This is grave. If Musharaf's government is overtaken/collapses...

that means the Taliban and Al-Quaida will have finally aquired nuclear weapons. This is bad.

[Surya Gayatri]

18. Sadly, this is the wacking

great elephant, sitting right in the middle of the room, that everybody's pretending isn't there. IMHO, Pakistan is the real Achilles heel of this criminal regime--and is far more dangerous than Iran (or Iraq, obviously) from the point of view of WMD threat. BushCo has been completely outflanked by Al Qaeda. SG

Edit: unclear syntax

[killbotfactory]

7. Sure am glad we "cut and run" from Afghanistan

to start a useless war in Iraq

[jimshoes]

10. We got them on the run

now they're in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Nice job george.

[LittleClarkie]

11. And on Paul Harvey, he said that the drug trade was also flourishing

not that Paul is any kind of news source. He'a a partisan hack. But still, that much is probably true. Surely people can see that where we should be is Afghanistan, not Iraq.

[G_j]

12. Opium/Heroin output from Afghanistan, highest ever n/t

[LittleClarkie]

17. And most likely being used to fund Al Qaeda

That should be the question repeated over and over. What about the people who attacked us on 9/11? Why are we letting them get back to business as usual while we pursue a fool's errand in Iraq.

[The_Casual_Observer]

13. You know it's bad when even the msm reports this kind of stuff

The neocons certainly didn't anticipate this kind of thing happening. Apparently, they thought that high altitude bombing would collapse the whole radical Islam thing. Not so.

[xray s]

14. swinging a bat at a hornets nest...

...usually results in unintended, but easily anticipated, consequences.

[The_Casual_Observer]

20. "Come join the jihad caravan."

There really isn't any way that the west can "deal" with this, short of backing brutal pro-US military dictatorships, and in the case of Pakistan that doesn't seem to be working either.

[upi402]

15. * has made us far less safe, and TV news traitors fool the people

I hate all those traitors for what is sure to happen to America.

[leftchick]

16. Link to ABC Report.....

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/International/story?id=1537040

Jan. 24, 2006 — Al Qaeda and its former protectors — the Taliban — are in the midst of a powerful resurgence, according to accounts by local officials and information contained in new al Qaeda videotapes obtained by ABC News.

U.S. troops are not permitted inside Pakistan, and the Pakistani army is barely seen in this part of Waziristan Province.

The new videotapes show open recruitment for the jihad, or holy war, to kill Americans and their allies.

The narrator says, "Come join the jihad caravan."

"The Taliban resurgence this year has been enormous and quite extraordinary," said Ahmed Rashid, author of the book "Taliban: Militant Islam, Oil, and the Fundamentalism in Central Asia."

The tape claims Taliban officials have taken over government functions. There is no date on the tape, but in the last month ABC News reporters have confirmed that Western aid organizations have been forced out, their headquarters burned, schools shut down, teachers and journalists killed, and music banned.

The tape shows men described as thieves being dragged through a village behind a truck, and later beheaded.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

19. Our solution to dealing with people who don't like being pushed

around, having their natural resources sold out from under their feet by some bought and paid for puppet, or having their homeland uses as a shooting gallery is to piss them off even more. Well, we shall see how this all ends soon enough.

[spinbaby]

21. CBS was showing terrorist training tapes

Let me see now...

a) The Bush gang gets into trouble for illegal wiretapping.

b) Illegal wiretapping becomes "Terrorist Surveillence."

c) Osama tape appears.

d) Videos of terrorists training in Pakistan appear on all major networks.

Yep, I see our buddy Karl all over this.

[Igel]

22. Welcome to FATA, Northwest Frontier Province.

Where pushtunwali and Deobandi-inspired shari'a reign supreme, the central Pakistan government barely exerts authority, and the currently ruling political party is the MMA, an ad hoc coalition of "Islamic" (lic. Islamist) parties opposed to such moderates as the Pakistan Muslim League-Q. A Muslim says he's good and fighting for Allah, and nothing the US says could matter: we're not Muslim, and are deemed infidel Crusaders. Not that many of the folk in the area have seen many "infidel Crusaders"; but standards of proof and "factulness" are even lower than in the US.

Some who argue that Saddam was better than the current state of affairs in Iraq seem to think that Musharraf's much less oppressive "dictatorship" is the epitome of evil. In many respects, FATA resembles what the Sunni sections of Iraq would probably look like a few years after a unilateral withdrawal of US forces, if denied any oil revenues and embargoed.

[chat_noir]

23. kick

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