Zogby: George Allen leads Webb by 11 points

[npincus]

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1177

WTF? Don't shoot the messenger.

Incumbent Virginia Sen. George Allen, who has suffered through some serious campaign missteps in recent weeks and days, is now making a comeback. Those problems had resulted in the loss of a big lead over Democratic challenger James Webb, but it now appears Allen is once again on solid ground. He leads Webb, 48% to 37%, with 13% yet undecided. Allen is the only Republican in the 10 Senate races featured in the Reuters/Zogby poll to hold a double-digit lead.

[Subdivisions]

1. My ass!!!

[flying_wahini]

2. i don't believe it...... not possible.

[keta11]

23. Believe it. As much as I wan't Webb to win,

he is not a good campaigner at all. I live in Alexandria now and have been watching this race. It looks to me like he doesn't have the personality for politics. Impressive credentials but he is not the press the flesh kind of guy.

[Nye Bevan]

3. .

:wtf:

[AndyA]

4. Doesn't seem possible to me. After his inappropriate and rude remark,

what has Allen done to restore faith in the voters? Nothing.

This poll seems highly suspect to me.

[shadow 99]

9. He did what works: he went on the offensive. Now it is a battle again NT

[Egalitariat]

Of the few "voters" who even know of those remarks, not many care

especially those who were going to vote for him in the first place.

[WI_DEM]

5. frankly, I've trusted Rasmussen's '06 polls more than Zogby's

and even though Ras is a "republican" pollster. Yes, his numbers for Bush are usually higher than other polls, but his Senate polls seem to be very much in line or better for Dems than other polls.

[bluestateguy]

6. This strikes me as false

I could see Macaca having a lead within the MOE, but 11 points? I think Zogby needs to go back to the phones and try that one again. Looks like a misfire.

[atreides1]

7. BS

I'm signed up with Zogby, and I wasn't part of that poll which was conducted from 9/25 - 10/02, but then again every time I reply to their polls I indicate that I'm a registered Democrat. So they could have just sent this one to Repukes and Independents.

[AzDar]

8. After all the Kerry 2004 'anomalies' who can trust ANY pollster?

This one is clearly bullshit.

[Zynx]

10. Zogby polls are not reliable anymore.

He called so many races wrong in '02 and got a lot wrong in '04 as well.

This same round of polling showed results not seen anywhere else like Menendez up by 10% in NJ. I would like to believe that, but I can't.

[Ignacio Upton]

20. Yeah, although Zogby has been said to lean Democrat

His polls are still a mess. Granted Rasmussen and SUSA get some races wrong too, but their overall track records are better.

[SoCalDem]

31. Polls get messed up when elections get "fixed"

and it all works to the advantage of the "fixers"..

[Coexist]

11. 9/29 they were dead even - MORE DETAILS:

Allen's lead over Webb disappears in new poll
By WARREN FISKE , The Virginian-Pilot
© September 29, 2006

http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=111862&ran=193196&tref=po
<snip>
Allen and Webb each drew 43 percent support in a survey of 625 Virginia registered voters who said they were likely to vote in the Nov. 7 election.

From MSNBC:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15139231/
The new polls showed Allen ahead of Democratic challenger James Webb 48 percent to 37 percent, even though Allen’s re-election bid has drawn heavy attention for his campaign trail missteps. Other polls show the race closer or even.

from your article
<snip>
The Reuters/Zogby surveys were conducted from Sept. 25-Oct. 2, 2006, and included at least 600 live telephone interviews with likely voters in 10 states. The margin of error in each of the polls is +/- 4.1 percentage points.

Okay -so - smaller sample size, but more recent. Other polls show different.
Not such a big deal, huh!

[vi5]

12. All I know is that if Allen wins

I'm sure we'll have to hear endless reprimands if anybody on here points out the fact that a majority of voters in a southern state elected a man with a known and documented history of racism that is shown to clearly exist to this day and not just in his past. And on top of it we'll be told how any presidential candidate has to be sympathetic to and in tune with that type of culture and not ever do anything that would dare insult it.

My hope is that I'm proven wrong. My hope is that Allen gets sent packing and we will all then publicly praise the good people of Virginia for casting out such a man from elected office.

However, it doesn't look hopeful.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

18. Foley sucked all the air out from the Senator Macaca scandal....

No-one's talking about Allen anymore. If Foley hadn't come along - they would have been talking more about it.

Foley saved Allen's neck.

[Karenina]

13. Who is greasing Zogby's palm?

:shrug:

[wholetruth00]

14. Doesn't surprise me. George Allen is an even more dummy than Bush

That seems to be what people want in office these days--incompetent, ignorant, fools. Says a lot about the voters in VA.

[Virginia Dare]

17. I'm a VA voter, and that's definitely not what I want...

in a Senator or a President. It's frustrating.

[Oilwellian]

26. Oh really?

What a nice broad paint brush you have. I'm a VA voter and despise George Allen. What do you think about that Picasso?

[Virginia Dare]

15. I seriously doubt it...

but even if it's true, Webb will chip away at it again, he's on the verge of doing a major media blitz, he's raised a pheonomenal amount of money in the last quarter, and he's going to make a legitimate run.

Even if he wins, the silver lining is that Felix's presidential hopes are in the crapper.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. Zogby's Polls Are Not Reliable At All

I don't believe him when he says we are winning and I don't believe him when he says we are losing.

Plus his polls are online polls.

I don't care how many controls he says he has , the respondents to his polls are self selected.

[WI_DEM]

19. agreed, his "interactive" polls are not reliable and his track record

in '04 and '02 was not good.

[npincus]

21. not interactve- it was a telephone poll

maybe Webb's campaign needs more $$$$

The Reuters/Zogby surveys were conducted from Sept. 25-Oct. 2, 2006, and included at least 600 live telephone interviews with likely voters in 10 states. The margin of error in each of the polls is +/- 4.1 percentage points.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. TY

I think his polls for WSJ are interactive.

Those polls are jokes.

[Zynx]

25. Zogby's telephone polls have been crap recently too.

In '02 and '04 they were very volatile and often very wrong.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. His Last Poll Had It A Dead Heat.

He's all over the place as he was in the primaries.

[WI_DEM]

27. or maybe it's an outliar since other polls show a much closer race

[Straight Shooter]

22. Disgusting if true. Very disappointing. Virginians are better than that.

:wtf:

[ShortnFiery]

29. This is Corporate Poll manipulation !

Bullshit! Just like Connecticut, this is "the suits" tweaking the polls ---> they are desperate because they can't Diebold LARGE democratic leads.

We are so screwed if The Democrats don't win The House in November.

Can we say, "I feel a draft?"

[A wise Man]

30. It goes to show you

that the voters in this country that desire the repugs are more incline to vote for their party rather than the welfare of the country.The republicans have galvanized this country to the degree of, common sense and truth verses hate and ignorance. CSPAN (WJ)gives a perfect example of the pure diversion we have in these United States. It's hard to believe that there may be more insane people in this country than there are sane and rational thinking people. No Democrate has asked a republican to become a Democrat. We only ask that they use some common sense assemblulation of thought and awareness of those that represent them.