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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:35 PM
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Now even active duty generals join the Rumsfeld bashing !
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 01:37 PM by BelgianMadCow
U.S. European Commander Confirms Quotes in Book

By Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, October 5, 2006; Page A18

One of the highest-ranking generals in the U.S. military yesterday stood by views attributed to him in a controversial new book about the Bush administration's handling of the war in Iraq but said it was important to understand the context in which those views were expressed.

Marine Gen. James L. Jones, the U.S. commander for Europe, is quoted in "State of Denial," by The Washington Post's Bob Woodward, as believing that the war in Iraq is a "debacle" and that "The Joint Chiefs have been systematically emasculated by Rumsfeld." As Marine commandant, the post he held before moving to Europe, Jones was a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Gen. James L. Jones is quoted in Bob Woodward's "State of Denial" as calling the Iraq war a "debacle." The book also quotes Jones as delivering a warning about working with Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to Marine Gen. Peter Pace, who was about to become chairman of the Joint Chiefs. "You should not be the parrot on the secretary's shoulder," Jones reportedly told Pace.

Jones's confirmation of Woodward's account is especially noteworthy because in the book, Pace denies that Jones made such remarks to him. Also, Jones's comments suggest that active-duty generals are beginning to criticize the defense secretary and the Iraq war with the harshness that several retired generals have used recently


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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/04/AR2006100401741.html

Bold is mine.
Active duty general being critical, and his confirmation of his statement makes a JCS look like a liar or a Condi...

This dam is not gonna last for two years.

bmc
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:37 PM
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1. If they continue to fire the Generals like they have in the past
they will have no qualified military leaders to conduct their wars....which means they will have green political cronies in positions that will get more soldiars killed.....This is how the Repugs will stay the course...
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:55 PM
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2. Indeed, the purge in the Pentagon, CIA and military
was widespread and underreported I strongly believe. Squashing dissent.

But I'd bet quite a few people in the military are being pushed to patriotic dissent by now.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 03:10 PM
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3. Well, that's obviously already happened...
... since the "experienced" Eric Shinseki was fired and replaced by a "green" dumbass who would go along with the reduced troop numbers for invading Iraq.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 03:11 PM
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4. Wow. This is huge.
Yes, I spelled it right on purpose. This is gigantic. The Army is in revolt.
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 04:05 AM
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6. and underexposed - kick
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:34 PM
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9. If it drops again, I'll happily assume this has had it's exposure
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 07:01 PM
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11. NGU
is there a rule against self-kicks? Just think this is the first primetime one :-)
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 05:04 PM
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5. Karma time for the military. Groups who supported bush
not doing well these days.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 06:01 AM
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7. The US Military has found out the hard way that
Busholini and his Criminal Junta don't give a DAMN about the troops.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 06:59 AM
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8. Karma is an interesting thing isn't it? nt
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:36 PM
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10. Goodness!
Mighty close to the brink,aren't we?
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