Hey Michael Weisskopf, how's your HAND doing these days?

[Gabi Hayes]

he's on CNN with Leslie, who used to LOVE to have him on during the Clinton Inquisition

I wonder if he realizes that HE's one of those most responsible for the impeachment, and, as a result of the climate he helped create, ushered in the easy-smear era of all things democratic, which led DIRECTLY to the election of GW Bush, hence the Iraq war, during which he lost his hand

Karma's a real bitchbastard, isn't it, lefty?

or is it righty?

I don't care at ALL!

[CottonBear]

1. That's damn cold

but I totally agree with ya baby.

CB

[Gabi Hayes]

2. I'm hip, and I almost feel bad about a man losing his hand, but HE's

VERY culpable in the deaths of over a HUNDRED THOUSAND people.

he and the rest of the M$M fricking helped IMPEACH the president of the united snakes of AMERICA over NOTHING!

just think about what they got away with re: WJC, and what they've allowed these fricking protofascoids to 'accomplish' in their criminal reign.

I can't stand it....time for a fricking drink!

[CottonBear]

9. As soon as I get home from work

I'm gonna have a drink too. :toast:

CB

[Gabi Hayes]

3. just a refresher on what a dishonest creep this amputee is:

Having read the first couple of chapters of the new book "Truth At Any Cost: Ken Starr and the Unmaking of Bill Clinton" by Susan Schmidt and Michael Weisskopf, I can see that Messrs. Schmidt and Weisskopf are following in the "proud" tradition of Bob Woodward in telling a "story" instead of practicing journalism. It makes one wonder whether this counter-charge to recent "pro-Clinton" books really belongs more in the category of historical fiction.

This book provides very little information to the reader concerning the foundation for the author's description of the events surrounding those first few days when Linda Tripp came to Ken Starr's OIC. We are just supposed to accept -- on faith -- that they are relating the issues as they actually happened.

The problem with this is that it obscures some very fundamental questions: for example, the authors continually say that Ken Starr and his staff did not know that Linda Tripp was dealing with the Paula Jones team of legal "elves" during the days leading up to President Clinton's deposition. Yet no attribution is supplied by which we can judge this assertion. In fact, it isn't even made as an assertion so much as it is inserted off-handily in a way as to suggest that the very idea is just to absurd to consider. Now, a real journalist would have at least included comments like "Ken Starr insists that the OIC did not know of Tripp's prior relationship with the Jones legal team". But the authors don't even give us that courtesy.

Another example: on the night that Monica Lewinsky was waylaid by Ken Starr's men, Linda Tripp's lawyer, James Moody, and one of Jones' elves, George T. Conway III, made a midnight visit to a local Howard Johnson's in order to meet with a couple of representatives from the OIC. At this meeting the OIC lawyers handed over a copy of the Dec. 22nd Tripp tape to Moody (this was the tape that Moody subsequently played for Michael Isikoff and the editors of Newsweek an hour or so later). The existence of this meeting did not become known until the pre-trial hearings for the Maryland wiretapping case against Linda Tripp. It was a significant piece of information -- because it was one of the clearest pieces of evidence yet that some members of the OIC did know that Linda Tripp was dealing with the Jones legal team (otherwise, why was Conway there?) This could be very damaging for both the OIC and the Jones team if the implications of collusion bore fruit, yet the major media has essentially ignored the significance of this meeting.

read on....

http://www.americanpolitics.com/20000502Schmidt.html

[leftchick]

4. yep! Karma can be a bitch!

no sympathy from me. I feel for the families of the Iraqis who are dead and wounded and our troops held hostage in Iraq.

[Gabi Hayes]

6. I love that picture from your son, is it!?!

I work in a grade school and can't keep from making little 'jokes' about the president; kids don't pick up on it (I made a Foley ref today; good thing no adult heard me)

when I worked in a junior high...til last year, almost EVERY SINGLE kid HATED Bush; when I asked why, they almost ALWAYS said something about what an IDIOT they thought he was

my favorite little bit: during taping a TV segment in our studio, I overheard what I thought was an instance of some girls making fun of the way one of the boys talked. I quite sternly remonstrated with them for being so mean, because the poor kid couldn't help the way he talked.


''But, Mr. B, we were making fun of the way President BUSH talks! He's so STOOOPID!"

[leftchick]

12. lol! we need more like you in our schools!

Yes, that is my son's interpretation of bush. Pretty damn accurate isn't it? I am very proud of him, he did it all on his own on a sheet of printer paper and left it on the kitchen table for me to see. The thing on the left is a lego arm he taped to the paper with "blood" dripping from it!
Mixed Media! I love it!

:)

[Gabi Hayes]

13. look!

I put that up on my flickr page. is it ok to leave it up there? I'll take it down right away; just wanted you to see a larger size. I might print it up on photo paper and hand it proudly on my wall.

I'd LOVE to put it up at school.

here's one I left on the table in the teacher's lounge...I had it on my car, and it faded, so I just dropped it there:

[leftchick]

15. You are welcome to it!

I actually have the original larger version on my fridge. That is an excellent poster of fascism you have there. :)

[blm]

5. Don't you mean Michael Isikoff who propelled the Lewinsky story?

Methinks your Michaels are mixed up. I thought Weisskopf was only a contributing reporter on the story.

[Gabi Hayes]

7. absolutely not, blm. did you see the link to his horrid novel about

Ken Starr, which he authored with Susan Schmidt?

http://www.americanpolitics.com/20000502Schmidt.html

Isikoff was doubtless more of a factor in the inquisition than Weisskopf, but those two gave Starr a veneer of false credibility (Washington Post and TIME!) that was completely undeserved, and gave real momentum to the impeachment movement.

I loathe Isikoff just as much, if not more, and was REALLY mad after hearing him on some progressive radio show the other day, touting the book he wrote with David Corn.

he had the BALLS to make a joke about being more used to writing about SEX (elf reference there) than war, and was very girlish, giggly, during the exchange I heard. Never have heard that kind of vocalization from him before, and it really infuriated me

have I ever told you how much.....

[blm]

8. Yeah - I knew he contributed to some of the Sue Schmidt smearing,

but I just never figured him for a key figure the way I saw Isikoff. And Sue Schmidt was so detestable on her own, that I thought the WaPost USED Weisskopf for some of the reporting to take some of the heat off of her.

[Gabi Hayes]

10. Isikoff=pyramid-sized block. Weiskopff=brick, comparatively, but

I have vivid memories of him and that fat hog Schimdt, making the rounds when their book came out.

I spoke with her twice on the radio....he was on once, and didn't say much, and caught her in a huge lie about Jean Lewis, though I couldn't prove it at the time (it had to do with the complete ignoring of her perjurious testimony/fainting spell before congress)

more than you care to know here about Jean Lewis, with a mention of Schmidt failing to do her job as a journalist

http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2003_09_14_dneiwert_archive.html

[blm]

11. That's pretty much how I recall the way they were put up by the WaPost.

It was definitely her story (well, Ken Starr's) and Weisskopf was added for incidental reporting - he never seemed comfortable in the role, so I figured the WaPost assigned him to distract from Schmidt's single-mindedness.

[Kahuna]

14. Ted Olsen's karma: Helps shrub steal election then his wife..

gets killed on a plane on 9/11 because shrub was too uninterested in preventing an attack. THAT's karma.

[unhappycamper]

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