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AGiordino Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:34 PM
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Democratic Leadership Not Jumping on Foley?
Why the hell aren't the Democratic Leadership jumping on the MAFoley event like Repukes jumped on Lewinsky? This could be just the keystone to investigating where the Iraq War money has gone and what we got for it. Or better yet, which of Unca Dick's good buddies got the hog's share. This could tear down the Bush Administration and faux WarOnTerra. Not to mention the war on the Constitution and Voting Rights. Why are we not led?
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Rockstone Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:37 PM
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maybe they live in glass houses
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:39 PM
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4. You think?
could you give me a for instance, an example?
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Rockstone Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:08 PM
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14. i'm not saying they have a Foley
I think any finger pointing they do feeds the republican meme of "the democrats are exploiting this" and if the republicans go with blaming it on a "gay cabal", odds are there must be a closet dem or two.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:12 PM
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15. We got some out in the open ones too.
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 07:16 PM by Jim4Wes
If what you mean is we shouldn't be over agressive right or wrong we would appear to be exploiting it, I agree.

edited for better choice of words.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:51 PM
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17. "The Dems are too!"
I love when Republicans are faced with their scandal du jour, they try to turn it around and accuse the Dems of the same things.

http://www.angelashelton.com/weblog/2006/09/26/our-elected-officials/

This list has links to all the stories where Republicans have been accused or convicted of sex crimes.

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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:40 PM
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5. More likely they are sensible
Of course, Freepers think the Democrats are responsible for all this. You a Freeper?
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:12 PM
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16. Yeah, like Barney Frank? What are you talking about?
Where is Kenny-Boy Mehlman? Oh, and where is David Drier. Oh, I am sorry, they are rethugs.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:37 PM
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1. Why should they? The 'Pubs are doing a fine job tearing themselves apart.
In fact, if the Dems just stand back and let them shred each other like wolverines in a gunny sack, they can't be accused of somehow engineering the whole thing, like Big Denny and the Freepers would like to believe. The Republicans have forgotten the First Rule of Holes: If you are in one, stop digging. So let's just stand back and let them bring in the backhoes.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:38 PM
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2. I agree completely.
eom
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:39 PM
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3. When your enemy is busy ripping out his own guts,
the most you should do for him in offer to hold his coat.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:40 PM
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6. No need. they're destroying themselves.
The Dems need to stay on the edges of the fray.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:43 PM
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7. dems are being torn apart for being all responsible and piliticizing
thisthing NOW as it is and dems havent done shit. it would no longer be about the republican but hte dem if the dem did start doing what you suggest
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:44 PM
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8. When its needed Nancy will Jump believe that
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:46 PM
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9. Good message. I hope these Dems fight back HARD!
I am so disillusioned, I could cry. After that Hastert "non-briefing," I have never felt so bad...like wanting to cry.

The Democrats started this? BS, this is so transparent. SHOW me the evidence! This administration is so fascist. The "Hill" said that the rethugs leaked this. Oh, blame the media.

Blame ABC for reporting the situ correctly. This is making me sick. This reporter from ABC said that the rethugs offered him, a "deal" not to report this scandal. He declined. Go to youtube.com to get the story....search for Mark Foley.

These Dems better show some gumption because the rethugs are disgusting. To try to blame this matter on the Dems is outrageous!


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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:46 PM
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10. Because...the real issue is the cover up.
And it is so much better to watch the House leadership dissolve into a mob of bickering, backbiting children. Foley, himself, is a side show, although he is a sick and despicable man. That was a smart move he made. He walked, almost as soon as he found out he would be ...uh...exposed. He left the leadership with the big problem, explaining why they covered up for him, and took $100,000 from him in July. That was when CREW sent the FBI their info.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:54 PM
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11. THIS IS NOT THE MOTHER FUCKING STORY!!!!
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 06:59 PM by Texas Explorer
er...um...sorry. But this is not the story. The real story is, and I'm going to say this yet again (as well as there being SEVERAL threads about it on the board that KEEP SINKING BECAUSE OF FOLEY) the fucking July 2001 meeting between George Tenet, DIRECTOR OF THE MOTHER-FUCKING C-MOTHER-FUCKING - I - MOTHER-FUCKING - A and one Condoleez Rice, the MOTHER-FUCKING NATIONAL

SECURITY

...ummmmm....

"ADVISOR"

in which Tenet told Rice that the probability of attack by Al Qaeda was "a 10 on a scale of 1 to 10" and the MOTHER-FUCKING bitch did not

"ADVISE"

the American people nor did she

"ADVISE"

the 3000 people that died on that terrifying morning.

THE BLOOD OF EVERY PERSON WHO HAS DIED DUE TO THE WITHOLDING OF THAT INFORMATION IS ON HER OIL-GRUBBING LITTLE HANDS!!!




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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:05 PM
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13. That story may still have legs. Condi shouldn't have gone to Iraq.
The GOP leadership has been spanked by Rove, and is regaining at least a semblance of order. I'm hoping some of this buzz will then die down, at least until Hastert resigns. Rove wouldn't start this kind of scandal to keep Condi off the front page. She wasn't even on the front page very long. But the war isn't going away, and her denial of Tenant's emergency briefing will not go down the rabbit hole, especially if every assessment of the war is paired with her knowing of the threat and ignoring it.

I know this is frustrating, but the GOP is on it's collective knees. Ewww....bad image.

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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:59 PM
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12. It's about leadership, not Foley
They're focused on the coverup and focused on why they should be in power. If they jump on Foley, they distract from the issue. If they jump on the leadership for flawed management, they come with a unified front to the American people for why that leadership needs replaced in the upcoming election.
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AGiordino Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 08:02 PM
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18. Thank you for reading past the Title Line Hope
That is my point. Why is there no leadership?
This Foley circus is just the easy pickins tip of the iceberg and can
expand to the obfuscations and misdirections so cleverly deployed by this administration.
And maybe Mr. M0th3rFusck3r will realize that, but I sincerely doubt it.
One would suppose that we have learned our lesson well under 6 years of this administration.
1. Don't criticize
2. Don't think
3. Don't break ranks
4. Don't, just don't
I came here tonight thinking that the world would be on fire after seeing the Honorable House Leader's inexorable press conference today where he lamely attempted to make this a partisan flare up.
Hell yes, it's partisan.
No, we didn't break the story.
We don't have anyone left with balls enough to break something like this with unimpeachable and unassailable sources.
This scandal serves best to illustrate the dichotomy of the GOP.
And we're sitting around going, "Oh, that poor man. Afflicted with the terrible disease of alcoholism and abused by clergy in his youth. No wonder."
For two long painful bloody years there was no quarter and no stone unturned in the investigation of That Woman. And we took it with shame. And abandoned the only positive hopeful president in decades. If you don't believe me go to youtube and view the 2000 State of The Union address.
"Because our chance to good is so great." That ladies and gentlemen is HOPE.
We all know that the dust will fly for a couple of days.
Then the House investigation will stall if it ever gets started (because it won't be properly funded) and become yesterday's news about a sad sad man.
And we'll let it be forgotten as wrangling over control of the legislature takes center stage and poof! Bob's yer Uncle, the GOP is back in control and the Dems are left sitting saying, "We could been contenders."

My apologies for being so long winded but chances like this aren't served up every day.
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