Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Democrats Abroad, Paris Caucus and the "French resistance" (pics)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 08:01 PM
Original message
Democrats Abroad, Paris Caucus and the "French resistance" (pics)
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 08:03 PM by tocqueville
If it were up to the estimated 50,000 Americans living in Paris, the Democrats would not just win the election this fall, they would probably run away with 80% of the seats.

Case in point: Democrats Abroad, the official Democratic Party organization for the millions of Americans living outside the U.S., has a mailing list of 2,500 in France. Its counterpart on the right, Republicans Abroad, has only about 200.

Up to the 1980’s however, American expatriates couldn’t vote. Now they can. And as the upcoming election looks to be tight, politicians have noticed.

So they organize, what else? (hint, they’re politicians): fund-raisers. By conference call.

A typical one, organized recently between Democrats Abroad and Claire McCaskill, a Missouri Democrat challenging Republican Senator Jim Talent, went like this:

Democrats Abroad: “How would you have voted on last week’s detainee bill, which allows for aggressive interrogation tactics to be used on terror suspects?”

McCaskill: “I probably would have voted yes”

Democrats Abroad:

McCaskill: “I’m very uncomfortable about the lack of habeas corpus. But this was better than what the Bush Administration wanted.”

Democrats Abroad: “Bullshit!”

As Connie Borde, the head of Democrats Abroad puts it: “These people are totally ideologically out of touch, they don’t realize how conservative America has become.”

http://superfrenchie.com/

original story here : http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1542712,00.html

visit democrats abroad : http://www.democratsabroad.org/

and

Americans against war - France : http://aaw.france.online.fr/aaw/index.htm



(text : "had enough, I am going back to France")





pictures from the 9/23 peace demonstration.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:18 PM
Response to Original message
1. McCaskill's answer
(Democrats Abroad: “How would you have voted on last week’s detainee bill, which allows for aggressive interrogation tactics to be used on terror suspects?”

McCaskill: “I probably would have voted yes”)

depresses me. Where are the leaders with a sense of what this country is supposed to be about?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. if you read the whole Time article you'll get more about it...
but what is the most amazing is that the woman has very progressive stands on other questions. That's why the "Dems Abroad" talk about the "bubble" since the fact of living abroad makes you see things in a different light...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:21 PM
Response to Original message
2. That's the most disgraceful, offensive thing I've heard from McCaskill
She should be fucking ashamed for using human rights as a bargaining chip in political brinksmanship games.

No wonder she is having such a shitty time with the Republican.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. Paris caucus important , it's 165000 votes through France.
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 09:54 PM by tocqueville
Even candidates whose campaigns are focused on local isues were eager to show off their international credentials on Tuesday night. "I lived in Japan for three years. I speak the language," said Daniel Seals, a 34-year-old African-American from Chicago (billed in advance of his call to the Paris crowd as possibly the next Barack Obama) who is trying to unseat Mark Kirk, the three-term Republican representative from Illinois' 10th Congressional District, in the city's tony North Shore suburbs. To the Americans in Europe, Seals was pitch-perfect, insisting that "Rumsfeld needs to go" and saying that it was time to overhaul energy policies, since "we are putting billions of tax dollars into supporting the oil companies."

On a day when the Mark Foley scandal dominated the news back home, here Iraq was the focus. Every candidate vowed to set a rapid exit strategy for troops if elected — a message that brought predicable cheers. "We need to bring this to a resolution as quickly as possible," said Seals of the war. Calling from his campaign office in Rhode Island, Sheldon Whitehouse, who has pulled ahead of Republican Sen. Lincoln Chafee in some polls, said, "From the earliest days I've called for bringing troops home." And one of the few moments of hushed silence came when Peter Welch, a Vermont attorney challenging Martha Rainville, a Republican, for the state's only seat in the House of Representatives, told the audience that a young man had "snuck" into his campaign office in August and dropped an envelope on the table. "He was active-duty National Guard, and he was about to be redeployed next morning to Iraq," said Welch. "He left a $1,000 check and a note saying: 'Please do everything you can to bring this terrible war to an end.'" Applause broke the silence.

Among the writers, retired lawyers, bankers and a handful of younger Americans in the Paris living room, the Democratic Party's prospects looked impossibly bright. That perspective seemed distorted even to the event's host, Constance Borde, the kinetic head of the France chapter of Democrats Abroad. The organization's mailing list of about 2,500 Americans living in France includes hundreds of people who moved to Paris decades ago, fell in love with the city, and never left. "These people are totally ideologically out of touch," she said. "They don't realize how conservative America has become." (George Yates, a displaced San Francisco attorney who runs the France chapter of the Republicans Abroad, estimates his group has only "about 200" supporters, suggesting that the American expatriates here are largely Democrat. The Republicans in France "tend to be a little less vocal in terms of waving the flag in the streets" than Democrats, he said.) it's perfectly OK to wave a US flag in France in a demonstration - my annotation

It took a dose of straight talk from McCaskill — a fourth-generation Missourian who was her high school Pep Club president and Homecoming Queen — to inject a note of reality. Asked if she would win endorsements from the Kansas City Star and the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, she laughed. "This isn't about St. Louis and Kansas City," she said. "It's about rural Missouri. The challenge is on gay marriage, abortion. That's what we're up against." With another weary sigh, she added: "The problem we have as Democrats is that so many of the leaders come from the very, very blue states," she says. "They go home to the echo chamber. They never go to places like Missouri." But if you're a voter in Europe, Missouri can now come to you.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1542712-2,00.html

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:36 PM
Response to Original message
4. I s'pose Democrats Abroad has no use for a supporter
of the Democratic Party who was born and lives outside the United States? :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Why not ?
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 09:49 PM by tocqueville
I don't understand why you couldn't support them. Go to their site and see if there is a contact person.

I just found out that they have a local organisation in my region :bounce: with not so few members...

of course you cannot vote if you are not a US citizen (my wife can, I can't) but you can still help with providing logistics using your language skills (hrm maybe not in your case...lol) etc... I think that it is legal to donate too...

where I live there are 5000 potential souls to be won...

where is the Lafayette spirit ? :pals: :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Or Thomas Paine spirit, in my case
;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 18th 2024, 11:47 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC