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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 08:23 PM
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Does the Foley scandal prove the existence of a God?

The Foley scandal is so perfectly tailored -- one could even say artistically designed -- to expose every character flaw of this country's Republican leaders (and their followers), and it has evolved so flawlessly (like the most brilliantly coordinated symphony), that one is almost inclined to believe that it was divinely inspired. It is difficult to believe that human beings (let alone Democrats) could create something so perfect (as Billmon wrote in comments here the other day, the relentless efficiency of this scandal is proof positive that Democrats had nothing to do with it). I agree with John Podhoretz's description:


This whole Foley business is one of the most dazzling political plays in my or any other lifetime - like watching an unassisted triple play or a running back tossing a 90-yard touchdown pass on a double-reverse.

The perfection of this scandal lies in its substance, not its theatrics. The Foley scandal is not -- as even some Bush opponents have asserted -- an aberrational, isolated, inconsequential melodrama that is unrelated to the substantive and important critiques of the Bush movement and which just coincidentally emerged as a cynical weapon that can be used to defeat the Republicans. The opposite is true. This scandal has resonated so powerfully because it is shining such a powerful light on the towering hubris, utter lack of intellectual and ethical integrity, and deeply engrained corruption that accounts for virtually every other Bush disaster -- from Iraq to law-breaking scandals to torture to Abrahmoff-type corruption schemes and everything in between.

There are, as Matt Yglesias pointed out the other day, huge numbers of people in this country -- clearly the majority of the electorate -- who are not at all stupid but simply do not have the time or inclination to pay close attention to political events. In that regard, people who spend substantial time in the blogosphere are aberrational; it is not the norm to monitor political developments on a daily basis. Most people rely upon journalists and pundits, as Yglesias said, "to let them know if something goes dramatically wrong with the governance of the country." But journalists have failed in that duty and the conservative pundits on whom many people (particularly conservatives) rely have purposely obscured what has been happening.

But for so many reasons -- its relative simplicity, its crystal clarity, the involvement of emotionally-charged issues, the salacious sex aspects -- this Foley scandal circumvents that whole dynamic. People are paying attention on their own. They don't need pundits or journalists to tell them what to think about it because they are able to form deeply held opinions on their own. None of the standard obfuscation tactics used for so long by Bush followers are working here. To the contrary, their attempted use of those tactics is making things much worse for them, because people can see that Bush followers are attempting -- through the use of patently dishonest and corrupt tactics -- to excuse the inexcusable. And seeing that, it gives great credence to all of the accusations voiced over the last five years that this is how the Bush movement operates in every area, because people can now see it for themselves.

http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/10/does-foley-scandal-prove-existence-of.html
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 08:25 PM
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1. Well, karma has crossed my mind this past week
:hi:
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 10:52 PM
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9. Karma's a bitch
It's certainly made me believe in karmic justice and the Law of Three - what you send out comes back to you three times over.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 08:31 PM
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2. No it proves the arrogance
of power. This is hubris gone mad in all spheres and I'm loving it. I've studied American politics long enough to know from last Friday that this and Woodward's book had teeth. Further that this happened at the end of the Congress's last session was the fugging icing on the cake.

This reminds me of Katrina - no matter how they attempt to spin it - it will not go away. I await the end and hope the Dems win back one or both houses. The American public is way more fed up than MSM portrays.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 08:41 PM
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3. God doesn't take sides in politics
Lets not start adopting the "God is on our side" attitude the GOP so arrogantly displays all the time
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 08:46 PM
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5. Right.
To me, it's proof that all lies unfold in time -and the timing on this was superb. I'll also allow as to how karma is swifter sometimes than we tend to think. But, God? She's busy with other stuff. :)
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 11:59 PM
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14. Besides... maybe it's....
.... church lady voice... "Could it be..SATAN?".

This scandal could be better... Foley molesting little girls or something. That way, gays won't get all the backblast.

Wait. Check that.... don't want to see a little kid get hurt. Make it molesting goats. Wait... I like goats, too.

Maybe Foley could have been fucking.... ummm... jellyfish! That's it. All the perv, and none of the hurt.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 08:43 PM
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4. Not sure but the words
Thank GOD YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS do come to mind :)
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 08:51 PM
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6. Very good point made in that article.
This scandal persists because it's one of those perfect metaphors. It's a simple situtation that sums up this Republican government, and the public can, perhaps for the first time, see all the gears moving because the lies are obvious as they speak them.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 11:26 PM
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12. Once they were convinced of this scandal
Maybe it became easier for them to accept other things reported about the Republicans. Everything else became plausible.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 08:58 PM
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7. Whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad.
That ancient greek saying is as true today as then, the GOP are Mad with power and then use that Power to do what THEY WANT, not want the people Want. Sooner or later it was going to blown up on them and it has. The only Question is will it be enough to defeat them in the election?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:51 PM
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8. Well it does for me. Because just a couple of weeks ago I prayed
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 09:58 PM by Kahuna
to God to please do something that would reverse the momentum that shrub and the repukes had been gaining after shrub's Sept. 11 and ABC's docu-drama, and oil company lower gas prices whoring. It seems that God has answered tiny kahuna's prayers. :)

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 11:23 PM
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11. A great big fat THANK YOU goes out to you, Kahuna!!!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 10:55 PM
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10. no. It shows arrogance topped by incomepetance. It shows emotions
rule over intellect. But God? No.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 11:35 PM
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13. WELL ... I Guess the Stench of the SULFER has wafted to high heaven
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:04 AM
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15. God? No. Karma? Oh, yeah.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:09 AM
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16. Here's a great paragraph.
The same people who impeached a popular, twice-elected President of the U.S. over a sex scandal involving consenting adults, who caused our country's political dialogue for several years to be composed of the filthiest and most scurrilous speculation peddled by some of the lowest bottom-feeders and dirt-mongers, and who constructed a political movement based in large part on sermonizing about private sexual morality and demonizing those who deviate, are now protesting -- without any irony -- the fact that a sex scandal is distracting from the Truly Important Issues our country faces and that Mark Foley's sexual pursuit over many years of 16 and 17-year-old Congressional pages is nothing that really matters.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:09 AM
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17. From my Journal in July....seems very appropriate today
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