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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 07:35 AM
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Text This: Words Alone Can Violate Federal Obscenity Laws
With so much attention focused on the Congressman Mark Foley sex scandal involving inappropriate text messages to congressional interns, it's worth noting that recent news reports and a federal appellate court decision confirm that federal obscenity prosecutions can be brought based on words alone, even when those words are unaccompanied by obscene visual images.

When most of us think of obscenity prosecutions, we assume that the matter concerns obscene photographs or films or videos. And, by and large, most obscenity prosecutions do involve visual images. But late last month The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette published an article headlined "Woman charged over 'vile' Web stories," which reported that "A Donora woman who federal prosecutors say posted fictional stories online about the rape, torture and murder of children was indicted this week on six charges of distributing obscene materials over the Internet. Unlike typical obscenity cases, though, is charged with violating the law through simple writing, and not with pictures or movies."

Moreover, within the past week, a unanimous three-judge panel of the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed a federal criminal conviction based on a jury's finding that various offensive voicemail messages consisted of words that constituted spoken obscenities. The 11th Circuit's opinion reproduces the offending language in exacting detail, proving that what is criminally obscene when spoken as a voicemail message may not be criminally obscene when expressed in the context of an appellate court's discussion of the sufficiency of the evidence.

But while technology has not yet progressed to the point where a person can be prosecuted merely for thinking bad thoughts, there are some exceptions to the general rule that the First Amendment automatically protects the expression of thoughts in language. One of the best-known exceptions is the "true threat" exception, under which a person can be subject to criminal punishment for making a real threat to another's safety, notwithstanding the First Amendment.




http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1160125531949
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 07:50 AM
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1. I thought the first amendment pertained to the people regarding government
Edited on Sat Oct-07-06 07:51 AM by HypnoToad
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

I'm glad I'm not a judge (or a grammar expert) and Amendment 1 is a bit wordy, but my interpretation as I currently understand it means Amendment 1 is about criticizing the government and religion only.

I would fathom that this concept of 'free speech zones' does violate Amendment 1.

To adumbrate my interpretation, for me to say "government policies are wasteful and full of shit" must be protected because it pertains to what the government is doing. However, for me to say anything about wanting to rape or kill another (anyone) -- that isn't protectable by the first amendment at all. It is grossly offensive at best, and incitement to violent conduct at worst.

I'll admit when I am wrong, of course - but to advocate rape and murder, fiction or otherwise, is bothersome and gruesome.

(though while potentially lewd, writing about what two consenting adults do to each other in private is not advocating violence.)
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 08:01 AM
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2. I don't know how I feel about it either. Did you read the part about
the woman who wrote a novel on line. She was prosecuted.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 08:04 AM
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3. I really think the only issue is that the kid(s) were underage
It was a private conversation.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 08:13 AM
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4. true, I hope he is prosecuted on some level. He needs to be.
the part I'm a little uncomfortable is how some of these laws might affect free speech.

What he did is digusting. I think he is a pedophile and I hope he gets jail time.

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