Guy Fawkes, can he rescue us?

[BrewAz]

I know I am late to see the movie...but "V for Vendetta" has given me a boost...right when I needed it.

Has anyone seen this futuristic/terrorism plot thriller based on a comic book about the historical Guy Fawkes character from English history? Hit the spot in my book...right on with the neo-Fascist, right wing oppressive government pitch and the fight to reclaim personal dignity, rights and freedom.

Is there a Guy Fawkes out there who can save us?

BrewAz

[twilight_sailing]

1. Good grief.

Yeah, buddy. You go do it.

How do you spell Moron?

Moran.

[brentspeak]

2. You, me, and us all -- working to get Democrats elected

That's what will save us.

[twilight_sailing]

4. The original poster is talking about murder.

Go for it if you want to.

[brentspeak]

5. I know. I'm trying to insert some sanity.

[twilight_sailing]

8. Well enough

but, IMO, let's don't be talking capitol crimes here.

Does no good.

And besides. What would become of our country if some moron killed all the people in government? Granted, I have no love for them, but, Jesus Christ!

[BrewAz]

7. I guess you see what you see....

I did not see murder nor do I condone the taking of lives as the means to a just end.

What I saw in the movie was a leader who mobilized the masses to take on tyranny. Then that leader gave his life for the good of all....certainly some self motivation, but in the end it was the masses who made the change.

Yes it is up to the voters..but where do we find a leader who can mobilize the voters on an issue or issues that will make it so? This is not about the dreams of a child...but the reality I want for my grandkids.

BrewAz

[twilight_sailing]

10. Killing people is not murder,

sure. Ok. Whatever.

[alcibiades_mystery]

3. No...there is no hero...there is no definitive event

We rescue ourselves, perpetually.

That is how politics works. Only children dream of Guy Fawkes characters who turn the world behind one event. It is the stuff of bad narrative, but it is childish in the extreme when it comes to political practice.

[brokensymmetry]

6. Saw it, liked it a lot.

There is no one man who could do as Guy Fawkes did; but
that isn't the lesson of the film. There IS someone
out there who can motivate, enlighten, and guide. There
is someone who can cause an effect similar to the end
of the film.

To accomplish this, we need more than a mere politician -
we need a leader in the best and truest sense. The U.S.
has had some good ones - FDR is one of my favorites.

So when you vote, or decide on doing some work for your
favorite candidate, you might ask yourself - is this someone
who can speak to the people and get them to join in doing
what needs to be done.

V may not exist; but the spirit, the idea if you will - that
lives. And that's something we can work to bring forth.

[BrewAz]

9. Amen

BrewAz

[twilight_sailing]

11. BrewAz

less brew for U, less fantasy.

[WinkyDink]

12. Each time is GF mentioned, I am compelled to note: November 5

is my birthday!

[blogslut]

13. It was a great flick

More for the illustrative example of an oppressive government than for V's crimes. I enjoyed the flow of the story. It's a fantasy but then, most art usually is.

[Fenris]

14. Locking.

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By the way, the most important thing one ought to take from Guy Fawkes and the Gunpowder Plot: the plot was discovered, Fawkes was tortured and then executed for treason, and James I (VI) reigned for 16 more years. It's not as romantic as some might like to imagine.

Fenris
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