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Wed Jan-25-06 08:54 AM
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Poll question: Poll on the DLC's (NOT THE DNC) suggestion NOT to filibuster |
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Edited on Wed Jan-25-06 08:59 AM by FLDem5
What are your thoughts
"The second-best way for Democrats to avoid still more Alitos on the Court is to make major gains in the Senate this November. And the best way is to win the White House in 2008."
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Wed Jan-25-06 08:57 AM
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1. HEART ATTACK!! I thought you were saying Reid decided not to filibuster |
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*Please* Clarify your post!
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Wed Jan-25-06 08:58 AM
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2. Is that better? Please let me know! |
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Wed Jan-25-06 09:01 AM
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4. It is better - it is a 'recommendation' not an 'announcement' |
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Only Senate Dems can announce that there will or will not be a filibuster...
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Wed Jan-25-06 08:59 AM
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3. And DLC - UP YOURS - re: gains in elections if you won't fight fraud! |
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:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
Stupid announcements like this are enough to make me think the DLC is in bed with Diebold.
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Wed Jan-25-06 11:00 AM
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19. Gee, has that just occured to you now? |
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:sarcasm:
Face it -- from practically their beginning, and certainly since 1994, the DLC has been more concerned with removing liberals from the Democratic Party than with removing Republicans from power.
:grr:
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Wed Jan-25-06 09:06 AM
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5. This country has been destroyed while the Democrats sat and |
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did nothing. We have the worst, most corrupt president in the US history, and no investigations. No screaming about all the illegal things * has done. Half the time half the Democrats support him - like the Iraq fiasco. We need people with guts who believe in the Constitution and can actually fight the thieves, liars, and law breakers. * has sprung suprise after surpise every election and the Democrats sit there like deer in the headlights when he pulls his stunts. At this point, we're not waiting for the Democrats to take back anything. We're waiting for the country to hit rock bottom so everyone will have to vote for the Democrats because the repubs will be in jail.
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Wed Jan-25-06 09:57 AM
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11. Conyers has launched several investigations, but lacks subpoena power. |
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Wed Jan-25-06 05:54 PM
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20. Isn;t there enough evidence out there that they could have an |
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investigation, come to a conclusion, and have the impeachment? Or an arrest? Something?
I keep remembering the repubs when they were the minority party. They wouldn't shut up. They were talking up their points everywhere and often and very loudly.
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Wed Jan-25-06 09:07 AM
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6. Thank you FLD - We gotta accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative |
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-- and that includes the DLC!
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Wed Jan-25-06 09:10 AM
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They don't have the votes. It's moot.
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Wed Jan-25-06 09:14 AM
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8. Standing up and fighting now is the best way to win in Nov. The |
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Democratic Leadership Counsel, a beltway think tank, does not speak for the Democratic Party.
They are a private group.
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Wed Jan-25-06 09:31 AM
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9. DLC = RNC both are one and the same. lets hope the DNC can be reformed. |
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The DNC needs to be cleaned out of the DLC plants, spies and counter progressives.
THEY MUST BE PURGED!
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Wed Jan-25-06 10:14 AM
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13. Bill Clinton, Gore, Kerry and Edwards = RNC? |
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Wed Jan-25-06 09:36 AM
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10. Alright - who likes the shiny stuff?! |
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Wed Jan-25-06 10:04 AM
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12. You don't have a choice for... |
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stringing all members of the DLC up by their short and curlies. I've hated those people for years. They couldn't worm their way into the circles of power in the republican party...so they had to come and try to take over ours. *sigh*
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Wed Jan-25-06 10:14 AM
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14. LOL! Sorry - its too late to edit it. |
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Wed Jan-25-06 10:14 AM
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15. I think people need to see the long term effects of a filibuster. |
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What will we have gained? Possibly no Alito- but highly unlikely. If not him, Bush has someone just like him waiting in the wings. His kooky base will absolutely require it.
Do we want to filibuster just because we don't like to lose- especially on judicial appointments?
Are we absolutely certain, this guy will be a disaster? The rebubs probably thought the same thing about our nominees.
How will the American people view our move? Most it appears, support this nomination. The media and the Repubs have painted us as partisan on this issue. The public may see this as childish bickering and a waste of time.
How will this effect how we are perceived by the voters during this important election year? What do we stand to lose, if the voters resent us for this filibuster? Then again, do they really care at all about the issue of Abortion or individual rights?
What will we have actually gained?
I am not a fan of the DLC, but they may have some valid points here. This is just my two cents worth.
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Wed Jan-25-06 10:32 AM
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18. I totally disagree with this argument. |
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"How will this effect how we are perceived by the voters during this important election year? What do we stand to lose, if the voters resent us for this filibuster?"
With everything going wrong in this country - do you really think this is what will weigh heaviest on the mind of the ever-elusive "swing voter".
Plamegate, Wiretapping, Katrina/FEMA, Outsourcing, Iraq... and you think "oh, they obstructed that one time" will truly make a difference?
If it does, our strategists need to be fired.
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Wed Jan-25-06 10:15 AM
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16. It's now or there might not be another chance, ever |
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Wed Jan-25-06 10:18 AM
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17. Anybody that won't at least try |
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to defend our system of checks and balances or who wouldn't fight a nominee that doesn't believe every citizen has rights, the seperation of church and state, civil liberties and the Bill of Rights is not someone I can support in this lifetime. I'll say it now as the situation becomes dire, my political opponents are the republican party and the DLC. This is not a purity test. They, simply by their political stands, are by default my political enemy. I understand some DLC are for the Bill of Rights, constitutional checks and balances, international treaties, the Geneva conventions and international law, the rule of law, and equal rights and will fight for them. I'm not talking about those few. However, the DLC through their expression of not suggesting ever fighting for these ideals is and always will be my political enemy just as those that have the power and are assaulting these things of which the DLC will not resist (the republican party) are my political opponents.
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