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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 07:40 AM
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Question for all those lurking freepers
Edited on Tue Oct-10-06 07:42 AM by Horse with no Name
It comes down to one thing--really.
Would you rather your spouse had oral sex with a consenting adult or would you rather your child be sexually stalked and taken advantage of by an authority figure?
Depending on which answer you choose--you might be a hypocrite.
You were willing to let this country be drug through the tabloid when two consenting adults had sexual relations--but are willing to look the other way when someone in your party diddles with little boys.
You totally disgust me.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 07:49 AM
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1. "Conservatives" don't care if republican congressmen
have sex with boys, cows, dogs, cadavers, doorknobs. Their only real concern is that those who vote for their agenda of destroying the constitution get caught. Then they get all christian and forgiving. They are totally disgusting.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:07 AM
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2. and how do you feel about your party covering up the recruitment of
young boys into the homosexual lifestyle?


:sarcasm: (but a deep-seated fear of far right homophobes)
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:07 AM
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3. They'd rather be "right."
They NEVER want to admit they were wrong, or, by projection, that their politicians did anything wrong.

They can't admit it. Bring up Foley and they'll bring up Clinton.
As you said, the two are not comparable.

In 12-step meetings, I've heard the question, "Would you rather be right or be happy?"

The freepers would rather be "right."
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:16 AM
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4. Devil's Advocate here, but they weren't "little boys".
Edited on Tue Oct-10-06 08:18 AM by kiki
They were at least 16, which is the legal age of consent.

So I'd rephrase the question to say: "So, you 'values voters' are cool with a 52-year-old authority figure chasing after a 16-year-old, just because it's legal?"

Which obviously dovetails into: "So, the fact that something is legal trumps your own moral objections, right? Does that apply to, hmm, I dunno, starting wars? Lying to congress and the American people? Spying on US citizens? Say, was that a bit of freeper skull fragment that just hit my shirt?"

(Of course, the final sentiment of the OP - "You totally disgust me" - remains valid...)
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:27 AM
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5. Ask a parent who has a 16-year old son
if they are still their little boy.
I'd venture to say that is how they still look at it--especially when someone is trying to harm them.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 02:51 PM
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12. Absolutely. Mine is 14, but I have a 16 yo daughter
and what that sick Foley did would cause me to after him like no other.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 02:55 PM
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14. Me too, and if I found out some 54 year old pig had been IMing them
in MY HOUSE WHILE I WAS IN THE ROOM, I'd mess them up.

I want my children to have healthy emotional and physical relationships with their peers. I do NOT want my teenagers teased and coerced in sexual discussions with a man MUCH older than their father, while relaxing after practice.

May-December relationships are fine once you are an adult. WAAAAY icky before that.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 02:50 PM
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11. It may or may not have been "legal." It depends what state each were in
at the time of the communication.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 02:53 PM
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13. Frankly, the 'legality' of the issue is secondary to me.
What I see is a predator taking advantage of young boys. Much the same as it would be sexual harrassment in the workplace.

It's the predatory aspect that I find beyond disgusting. For a 'respected Congressman' to speak that way to a child is disgraceful. He should be tarred and feathered.
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DocSavage Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 10:49 AM
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6. I double
dog dare a repug to respond. Never mind that, I triple dog dare em. Easy for me to say, got an alert button.

Help, administrator, there are repugs on this board.

Post on a board where people can respond, lots more fun.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 10:55 AM
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7. I always wonder
who taught them how to push the right keys ...
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Wise Child Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 11:39 AM
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8. I read on another freeper - type board,
The one that begins with C and considers themselves "underground". The one that has nothing better to do than constantly post threads about threads over here. I think the thread starter's sarcastic response was "I'm so NOT voting for Mark Foley in my congressional district in Michigan." Anyway, at that poseur board, it seems that they believe Foley was set-up, the scandal is all political, in their minds, and they have drank the kool-aid saying they have no other alternative. (They will never vote Democrat or stay home.) Actually, I've heard this throughout the year. Certain people claiming they have no one else to vote for.(Democrats are not an option.) It kind of scares me. Hopefully, this is coming from the hardcore twenty-nine percenters.

They do feel pretty confident that the Republicans will keep both houses. They must be in denial.

Someone also mentioned that staying home (and voting for Perot)in '92 was a mistake that they will never repeat, because it got that vile moderate Bill Clinton into office.

I'm thinking they are just a piece of the puzzle, and the "swing vote", the average American voter, the "Soccer Mom" will be the key to Democratic victory in November.

I hope the Free Republic crowd is still nervous over this scandal. Or did they gain some denial masked as confidence as well?

Hey, all of you at the above mentioned poseur boards, thanks for banning me, I don't think I've had a better time swinging at strawmen.

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joe_sixpack Donating Member (655 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 02:41 PM
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9. Are there actually
Republicans defending what happened?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 02:46 PM
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10. I think most republicns would respond this way
"We got rid of Foley. He resigned. When this scandal was brought to light we dealt with it. Should we have dealt with it earlier? If we had known about it we would have I'm sure. Where are those media figures and Democratic operatives who knew about this but didn't say anything until the timing was right for their electoral chances?"

Of course, the weak point to this come back is that a) house leadership should have known earlier, and by most accounts did no earlier). b) The last part is paranoid rambling - this story was discovered by a reporter who then reported it - pretending that we knew all about it but kept our mouths shut is disingenuous at best.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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