Official Senate Debate – Alito Nomination – Thread 4

[Viva_La_Revolution]

Official Senate Debate – Alito Nomination – Thread 1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x234580#234966

Official Senate Debate – Alito Nomination – Thread 2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x235101

Official Senate Debate – Alito Nomination – Thread 3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x235518



Republicans make Lady Liberty cry. Bastards!

[kiteinthewind]

1. Thanks, Viva! You're awesome!

:wow:

[izzybeans]

15. delete wrong place

sorry

[Sydnie]

2. Allen - gonna clean our clocks too?

go ahead, change the rules again. Add your own "above the rules" to all of blivet's** recent ones. Go ahead ... I double dog dare you to!

[Catchawave]

9. Damn, I wish Mark Warner would challenge

him this fall !! Allen cares more about his party than Virginians!!! Easily proven, and would be a slam dunk for Warner.

[Botany]

21. Time to fight!

If not now, when?
If not Alito (perjury & memory problems), who?
If not the SCOTUS, where? remember bush v Gore 2000?

[The Witch]

3. Just got back from the dentist, who's up?

Still Corny?

[kiteinthewind]

5. Allen n/t

[The Witch]

19. Ooooh, my Senator.......... :puke:

:sigh:

[kiteinthewind]

22. My sympathies! n/t

[Sydnie]

6. Dittohead Allen n/t

[VelmaD]

7. George Allen

He started out insisting all nominees deserved an up or down vote. I guess that wasn't the case when it was Clinton appointees. :eyes:

Oh, and he told the Dems to "bring it on" re: the fillibuster.

[gratuitous]

14. All nominees deserve that up or down vote?

What about Harriet Myers? Is Allen's memory shot, or does he think we're so stupid that we don't remember that little fiasco? Either way, it's pretty ridiculous for anyone on the R side of the aisle to pretend that the up or down vote is some sacred little bovine.

[Kurovski]

46. The repugs themselves are very much like sacred cows.

The difference being that what drops out of the back end of a bull, manages to find its way out of a Pubbie's top-end.

Edit: punctuation, dammit.

[FreedomAngel82]

68. Don't forget Harriet Miers

[Viva_La_Revolution]

8. Allen

pugs have the next 40 ? min or so

[Ovett]

4. "Go ahead, make my day!"

HAAAA. Can't believe he just quoted Dirty Harry. Said we will pull the "constitutional trigger"... instead of "nuclear option". I hope this happens.

[Dinger]

27. This Is It Senate Dems: Fillibuster, It's Now Or Never

You will NEVER have another chance. Even if it fails, and that is NOT definitie, it is a matter of principle.

[Sydnie]

10. answered over 700 questions of which one was

"Are you a closet bigot?" Hard hitting questions like that Allen?

[kiteinthewind]

11. Hate to keep saying this, but has

everyone here called Ben Nelson (NE)? 1-202-224-6551 or toll free 888 818-6641, 888 355-3588 or 800 426-8073
:hi:

[VelmaD]

12. it's DemocratIC...

argh!

[CottonBear]

13. The Republican who's speaking just referred to "Democrat senators."

:grr:

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. The always do that. They're all like a bunch of 2 year olds

calling names...."nyah, nyah, nyah...you, you, you.... Democrat Senator you!" :eyes:

[cascadiance]

34. Maybe we should call them "Republicist senators" in the same way...

Yes they are "cysts" growing and destroying our government, just like they are trying to depict us as "rats" by calling us as "Democrat" senators!

[Kurovski]

57. Or call them "Republicanesque" since they little resemble

actual Republicans of the past.

Smaller Govt, less govt.intrusion, fiscal responsibility, etc.

[LibDemAlways]

97. Dems ought to start calling them

"repukes" with the emphasis on "puke."

[FreedomAngel82]

70. They purposley do that

[Viva_La_Revolution]

16. I have to take off for about 3 hours.... who wants to take over?

I can even e-mail you the word doc with all the links... it's ready to post.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

28. "Bueller... Bueller... anybody, anybody... Bueller." ...

:shrug:

[Sydnie]

40. I can for a little while, then I have to leave for work too

but, I'll take over for a bit if you have to leave soon. :hug:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

52. Thanks Syd!

I'll try to be quick... just pass it on if you have to go. :)

Check your PM - just sent you the links for all the threads so far.

[Sydnie]

59. Have fun, be careful, see yah when you get back

I have about 2 or 3 hours of work to do today myself, so I will hang for a bit anyway.

[kiteinthewind]

31. Don't think I'm ready for that, and have to leave for court in an hour!!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

39. no worries... someone will

Have fun at the Courthouse! :P

[kiteinthewind]

43. Thanks, Viva!

Later! :hi:

[VelmaD]

17. Hey George...don't use big words...

if you don't know how to pronounce them.

[Ovett]

18. Allen can't pronounce "Inexorable"... the next GWB. nt

[VelmaD]

20. you can't have it both ways

It was ok for the judges to strike down seperate but equal even though the public thought it was fine in some states...but it's not ok to overturn forcing kids to say the pledge. :eyes:

[insane_cratic_gal]

24. Is he kidding!!! London CT vs Pfizer

This is EXACTLY why we don't want Alito on the SC! one he's probably got stock in the company and wouldn't recuse himself

2.He doesn't rule in favor of the little guy you dumb asshole, he would of voted as in favor of the state!

[VelmaD]

25. This notion that judges should uphold the "will of the people"

is a little scary. I thought one of their roles was protecting the minority from the tyrany of the majority.

[izzybeans]

35. That was the role of the constitution...

if you follow the will of the people, you aren't necessarily following the constitution, especially when most of those who "will" put pressure on you for certain decisions have never read the damn thing.

Allen clearly hasn't. If they uphold the constitution then the minority should be protected as far as the constitution allows.

[selmo7]

36. I think about that all the time -

it IS scary!

[Ovett]

26. must protect bill of rights... yeah right.

except for the fourth amendment/privacy rights.

[VelmaD]

29. or the part about rights not enumerated being reserved...

to the people...you know...like the right to privacy

[FreedomAngel82]

74. Or protesting

[yellowdogmi]

30. How long till Allen is done?

I can not believe Allen invoking the bill of rights after all that W has done to show contempt for it. I long for the days when politicians could be tarred and feathered. What a windbag

[Wordie]

Here's Sen. Ben Nelson's other contact info:

Phone: [phone] (Washington D.C.)

http://www.senate.gov/~bennelson/contact/email.cfm

FAX: [phone]

(Missed this in the last thread.)
He is the only Dem Senator who has said he will vote for Alito.

Contact him to urge him to reconsider!

[lady lib]

60. I just called his office...

Thank you for posting the number! :)

I started off with, "I'm sure you're getting inundated with phone calls so I'll make this brief." The (extremely nice) women on the other end said, "Oh, a sympathetic person...(laugh)" She then gave me plenty of time to voice my concerns and said she'd pass them along.

[Wordie]

98. Terrific, lady lib! (Let's hope all our calls and emails will have the

desired effect!)

Great that you called him!

:yourock:

[izzybeans]

32. Opponents of this "Domination" is that what he just said?

Then going in to the Unitary Exec. question?

Then comes the cherrypicking his handful of examples of "little guy" cases. Cause its nothing about domination...oh wait you just told us it was Mr. Allen.

[in_cog_ni_to]

33. Which Democrats spoke during their hour? I had to leave and pick my son up

at school and missed the last half hour. I had to leave during Kennedy's time.:( What other Dems spoke?

[SCDem]

44. Leahy, Kennedy, Durbin

not sure who or if anyone else

[in_cog_ni_to]

71. Thank you.

:hi:

[yellowdogmi]

64. I saw the end of Kennedy and all of Durbin.

[kiteinthewind]

37. VelmaD, can you take over for Viva?

:hi:

[VelmaD]

42. Unfortunately I don't know how much longer I'm gonna last...

I'm home from work sick today and at some point I'm going to pass out from the medicine.

[CottonBear]

38. Did anyone catch Cornyn's "Scalito" slip earlier? He said it again! n/t

[bear425]

41. Martinez - Florida up.

Can't wait to vote him out.

[ralps]

45. Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida up now

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Dinger]

47. Seems Like This Thread Is A Little Slow . . .

When will things heat up???

[Sydnie]

48. 1 o'clock when the dems take over again. n/t

[Dinger]

54. Whew!

I wish I've set my timer for the p.m. hours instead of this morning. Oh well, hopefully they're repeat it.

[CottonBear]

49. The Republicans are spewing Rove's talking points. Yawn. n/t

[VelmaD]

50. Well, these two rethugs...

are pretty pitiful. It's almost too easy to take potshots at them.

[bear425]

51. As soon as the Dems are up.

Then we'll hear something substantive. About 10 long minutes from now.

[kiteinthewind]

53. Viva has to leave, wanna take over?

I'm a newbie, and have trouble keepin' up!!! :crazy:

[bear425]

56. Wish I could. I have to go take someone to the dentist soon.

Sorry Viva, but I can't take over today. Hope you get a volunteer soon.

[insane_cratic_gal]

55. Republican's are talking waaah wawah waaaaaa

Like listening to Charlie Brown's teacher

[ClayZ]

58. Those rethugs can really blah Rove's blah.

He probably sent their remarks to them...

[bear425]

66. I know! The silence is so deafening...

and enjoyable now that Martinez has stopped blathering.

edit: stoopid spelling

[mahatmakanejeeves]

61. Who's on the Fence?

Dem, Rep, doesn't matter. No sense writing people who are not undecided.

[kiteinthewind]

67. Ben Nelson (NE) Voting YES! Call him!! 1-202-224-6551 or toll free

888 818-6641, 888 355-3588 or 800 426-8073

[bear425]

72. Just called his office. Asked him to please reconsider his vote

and note that the rest of the Democrats have voted "no" to Alito. She said "Ok, I'll pass that along for ya."

[in_cog_ni_to]

75. I "think" the Democrats have enough votes for a filibuster.

They only need 41 and last I heard they had more than that. The only problem IS....getting them to actually DO IT. They fear the "nuclear option" that the repukes SAY they will use. I say call their bluff. They won't do it. If they do use the "nuclear option", the Democrtas can bring the Senate to a stand still and the repukes will not be able to push through the rest of their shitty agenda.

[kiteinthewind]

82. About what we have all been getting from her!! But we need to keep it up!

:)

[LiberalAndProud]

84. He knows it will cost 1 vote in November.

[Wordie]

89. Did he change his mind??? eom

[VelmaD]

62. Well, it's been fun so far, but...

I'm gonna go pass out for a bit. Hopefully I'll see you all again later on this afternoon and I'll feel more up to snarking at the rethugs.

[in_cog_ni_to]

73. Bye Velma! Hope you feel better soon!

:hug:

[Sydnie]

63. Quorum calls are counting against their time here or not? n/t

[ralps]

65. Quorum call on now

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[in_cog_ni_to]

69. No vote has been scheduled in the Senate yet.

Just heard that on C-SPAN. :hi:

[Sydnie]

76. Byrd up! HEAR HIM NOW!

I didn't want to miss this!

[LiberalAndProud]

80. I have a huge crush on Senator Byrd.

:heart:

[Dinger]

90. He's Mine - Be Warned : )

I don't mind sharing:)

[LiberalAndProud]

108. He's a big enough man for both of us methinks.

:evilgrin:

[in_cog_ni_to]

77. HERE HE IS!!!! The protector of our Constitution! BYRD!

I hope he votes no and joins a filibuster!

[Dinger]

85. Good, Things Should Liven Up Now!

Lite 'em up honey, I love you!:loveya:

[Wordie]

94. Byrd is a true statesman...an all-too-rare type these days. eom

[ralps]

78. Yay Sen. Robert Byrd up now!! Bringing up the Sego coal mine accident

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[The Witch]

79. Byrd discussing Sago

:cry: :cry: :cry:

[foreverdem]

83. Please let me know!

At work, can't watch. Please let me know if Byrd takes out that mini copy of the Constitution that he carries around with him. I'd love to see him stick it to the pukes with it!

[kiteinthewind]

87. Don' ya just love him!!!

:loveya:

[annabanana]

102. also wearing Consititution lapel pin

(I just ordered one from pinsforpatriots.com )

[ralps]

95. "Everything returns to business as usual, until the next disaster. but not

now." I know I'm paraphrasing. It sounds like Sen Byrd & others will be going after the Company that ran Sago & MSHA. :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Lasher]

81. Viva, I noticed you have to go.

To 'take over' all I would have to do is start thread number 4, right? I will do that, with your permission. I can't promise I'll be here for thread number 5, but there are plenty of others here, to whom we can pass the torch.

Let me know and I'll start it. Looks like we need the new thread about now.

Lasher

[ralps]

86. This is tread #4, you would be starting tread #5

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Lasher]

93. Duh, I mean 5

Think I should wait on Viva to respond? I don't want to just wade in and take over without that handshake.

[nickinSTL]

88. don't forget to post links to threads 1-4

n/t

[Viva_La_Revolution]

91. Sydnie's in charge... I should be gone already!

She has to go soon too, let her know that you are willing when she leaves. Thanks!

Teamwork!
:yourock:

[kiteinthewind]

92. Thanks, Lasher, for takin' the torch!

I have to leave in about 30 min for court, but this is great! I'll be back! :hi:

[Lasher]

96. I don't have the torch, Sydnie does.

See post #81 by Viva.

[kiteinthewind]

99. Well then, thanks for the offer! : ) n/t

[Lasher]

103. That's OK, kiteinthewind, lots of good folks here are willing to help

Welcome to DU! I like it here and so will you!

[kiteinthewind]

109. Already addicted!! Am going to have to discipline myself to get to work!!

Thanks for the welcome! :hi:

[radio4progressives]

100. I think we are watching a filibuster... vis a vis Byrd., no?

isn't this supposed to be a floor debate on confirmation?

If so, it would appear that we are looking at is a filibuster in action.

correct me if i'm wrong... ;)

[ClayZ]

104. Perhaps he will comare the mine Disasters to the DISASTER of bu$h?

If he goes on to KATRINA... What a DISASTER Alito would be.

[Wordie]

106. Nah, he'll tie this to Bush and eventually to Alito.

His state has been hit hard by mine accidents. We really can't blame him for using his moment for it. (Do hope he'll get to Alito soon, though.)

[annabanana]

107. he has a way of going the long way around...

Let's see if he brings it back around... Talking about "enforcing the Law"

[Sydnie]

101. thread 5 up now

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x236816

[LeftCoast]

105. Please continue discussion

in this thread