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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 01:11 PM
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Navy Cans Lawyer Who Did His Job And Beat Bush ... Stupid
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this is the upside-down world we live in. Swift does the job he was asked to do, as well as can be expected, and he has no future. Meanwhile, Paul Bremer received the Medal of Freedom from President Bush -- even though by his own admission failed to tell Bush or Defense Secretary Rumsfeld that the U.S. did not have a sufficient number of troops in Iraq, and in 2003 wrongly assumed the U.S. could "overpower" an insurgency.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 01:14 PM
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1. Winning a case before the supreme court against
a prosecutor with unlimited fiscal and manpower resources and the guy gets passed over for promotion??? Extremely sad. I wish him fair winds and following seas and if there is justice in the world he will got into private practice and wreak havoc.
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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 02:00 PM
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2. it's ass backwards
as is so much about the way our government handles things these days.
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 02:30 PM
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4. Come on Boss, you know how these things are scheduled.
The promotion message was released in June after the Hamdan ruling came out. That means the promotion board met in February, well before the decision. His fate was sealed in February, he just didn't know it.
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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 03:39 PM
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6. has that point been made anywhere
... because it would be obviously relevant if true.
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 03:46 PM
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7. To my knowledge, only by me.
Edited on Tue Oct-10-06 03:52 PM by Geoff R. Casavant
Specifically, here.

And I guarantee it's true. My reserve O-5 board convened at about the same time as the active duty O-5 board in February, and the results were not published until months later.

On edit -- my information is off, but only slightly. This link shows the pipeline for the Navy O-5 Staff Corps promotion results. The board actually convened in late March, the results were reviewed by seven levels of offices (and each level may have had 2 or more officers who needed to sign off), and the final list was published in July.
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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 03:50 PM
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8. so it's speculation
wouldn't it have made sense for the navy to clarify this point immediately, if your speculation turned out to be true?

otherwise, you have no choice but to come to the assumption that someone nixed Swift's promotion because of the hamdan result.
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 03:54 PM
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9. See my revision.
It's not speculation, it's established fact. LCDR Swift's promotion status was locked in in March, well before the Hamdan decision was rendered.
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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 04:34 PM
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11. but it is possible
that swift was going to receive a promotion, and then the board "changed its mind." no?

I mean, if a superior wanted swift to not get promoted, couldn't that work its way through the channels quickly?

I'm asking. I don't know. But while I appreciate your thoughts, I have to figure that the military would have leaked as much to the press, to counter the otherwise obvious conclusion drawn by just about everyone covering this story.
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 04:54 PM
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12. I don't think the board could change its mind.
Once the board convenes and makes its recommendations, its job is done. I expect you are correct that any person reviewing the board results could conceivably strike a name from the list before sending it on, but there are certain statutory bases for doing so, and there would always be someone lower on the food chain who could complain to the relevant Inspector General.

Plus, the JAG boards are always chaired by one of the two admirals in the JAG Corps. If the Navy JAG, as we know, stood up to the administration regarding detention issues, it's a safe bet he would not allow any undue outside influence over his board, especially regarding a high-profile officer.

Finally, I believe the original story mentioned something to the effect that the board considered that LCDR Swift did not have as varied a career as one might expect for a Navy JAG seeking promotion, which is a pretty reasonable explanation as far as I'm concerned.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 02:12 PM
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3. OMG, look at the responses from the itty bitty nazis
Anonymous said...
Represent the enemy and then expect promotions? Thats like not working and collecting a paycheck. Oh thats right, libs love that sort of thing.



Just for starters. They're truly sick, sick, sick motherfuckers. Another one said Swift should be hung for treason. I assume he also wants the Supreme Court hung for treason.

These creatures aren't Americans. They're not even human. They're some sort of warped troll offshoot of the human race.
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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 03:38 PM
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5. agreed
we have many trolls canvassing JABBS. Most come from Mark Levin Fan's website.

Feel free to defend the cause over at JABBS.
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anakie Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 04:23 PM
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10. here is the next one they will do it to


Hicks inquiry 'a huge cover-up'
October 11, 2006


military lawyer for David Hicks says a US inquiry that found his client suffered no abuse while in custody was the "biggest cover up of all time".

US military lawyer Major Michael Mori has told Fairfax newspapers that Mr Hicks had most likely been stomped on while being detained.

Major Mori said Mr Hicks had also had his head rammed in, rendering him unconscious, during his detention in Afghanistan and was randomly beaten.

He said he had confirmed the physical abuse with only his own “minimal investigations” proving a US Defence Department investigation was a cover-up.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20561492-1702,00.html

Since the first time I heard Michael Mori (a marine lawyer) speak I have been so impressed. He is continually critical of the military tribunal system and about how his client has been mistreated in Gitmo for the last five years. I will not be surprised if the same happens to him.


Peace
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