LISTEN UP!! Lieberman MUST Go! I'm Hearing More & More About

[ChiciB1]

how close it may be in the Senatorial Race next month, and more and more the hype is...."what way will Lieberman really go?" If Democrats only gain ONE SEAT, this person could be one of the most POWERFUL men in the Senate! I saw many posting here yesterday that Lieberman doesn't bother many Democrats because he has always been a Democrat.

But things have changed and he has said, and I do seriously think he feels Democrats let him down and I for one DON'T TRUST him! No matter how you slice it, if he doesn't stick with Dems, we get screwed, but if he does and it's a TIE vote at any time... We Get Screwed... Cheney breaks the tie!

Isn't there some way we can HELP LAMONT? I've asked this question many many times now. I think too many people aren't taking this race as seriously as they should. Lieberman has proved himself as someone who will "do what it takes" for HIMSELF and HIMSELF only!

I gave money to Lamont, but that's NOT ENOUGH! Isn't there some type of petition or writing campaign we can mount to stop those "behind the scenes" Democrats who are all to eager to help Lieberman out, and let them know how upset we are with them for supporting him "in the closet" or bheind the scenes??

Personally, and I've said this before too.... if ONLY we could get to Al Gore and plead with him to come out for Lamont it would be ONE GIANT step forward!

Lieberman is the snake hiding in the grass make no mistake about it!!!

[Poll_Blind]

1. Maybe you'll get away with it and maybe they'll hound you until...

...you nolonger post in your own thread. There are a number of posters who seem to be driven mad with the desire to have us hold hands with Joe again. DU's gone for some funny turns lately. Oddly, it's the "regulars" I see getting shouted down, called all manner of names, merely for sticking up for what they believe in.

  DLC folks, from what I've seen, don't seem to have much of a problem with Lieberman. That's scary.

:shrug:

  For the record, I'm with you on this.

PB

[ChiciB1]

5. Golly Gee Wizzzzzz! That's Depressing! Not Looking For DLC

DU help, looking for LEADERSHIP HELP!!!

[TechBear_Seattle]

6. Lieberman is a traitor; Lamont is the Democratic candidate

What more needs to be said?

[Leopolds Ghost]

27. Not to mention a lot of regulars seem to no longer be around. n/t

[stepnw1f]

30. Lamont is the Democrat Here! (nt)

[charlyvi]

2. I'm with you.

The fact that Lieberman could be the deciding vote, the fact that Lieberman could blackmail the Senate Dems in close votes after ignoring the decision of Dem voters in Conn. is obscene. Besides, I don't trust him either. He's the party of Joe.

[Fresh_Start]

3. The Illogic of a democrat voting for Joe

Strike 1:
After losing the Democratic primary, Lieberman gives democratic voters the middle finger and creates a new party thereby nullifying the democratic primary and assuring a split of democratic voters in the state.

Strike 2:
Its telling that Joe's new party is named 'Connecticut for Joe'. In his view and his actions, the main point to be considered is "JOE", not Connecticut. Connecticut is merely supposed to serve Joe.

Strike 3:
When being advised that his independent run will aid Republicans office holders in the state, Joe replies "they should have thought about that during the primary". Again giving the middle finger not only to those who voted against him in the democratic primary but also to those democrats who voted for Joe in the primary.

[hang a left]

7. Fourth strike

He dissed Howard Dean today.

[femmedem]

23. Fifth strike: joked about torturing Dems on Imus last week.

Lieberman to Imus: "I am particularly appreciative of your interrogation of other Democratic elected officials, and I am very comforted that your interrogations are not covered by Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions."

http://nedlamont.com/blog/1661/joe-on-imus-torture-is-a-big-joke

[never_get_over_it]

4. Any Democrat whether on DU or not who thinks they can trust

LIEberman is naive and foolish. This man LOST the Democratic primary - and is showing complete contempt and disrespect for ALL Democrats by running as an independent - and I for one have great doubts that he will caucus with the Dems if he wins - I don't know what the hell has happened to the Lamont campaign but they need to step it the hell up and beat this ass hole.

[Richard Steele]

8. I'm with you! Anyone who trusts Lieberman is a damned fool!

[Swamp Rat]

37. Great pic!

:D :hi:

[Rose Siding]

9. This new ad OUGHT to bury Joe

Watch it -his hypocrisy, and his failure to keep campaign promises is *perfectly* highlighted.

http://www.nedlamont.com/page/invite/partoftheproblem

Why would people put UP with that???? I just don't get it.

[Ian David]

10. Find out which pages work for LIEberman. He looks like a pedophile

Some people say.

[bonito]

11. A snake indeed

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=143x3906#3909

[onenote]

12. I'm for Lamont, but why do you think Gore can make any difference

Lamont is trailing in this race because (1) Democrats only make up around 1/3 of the electorate in Connecticut; (2) repubs are supporting Lieberman instead of their own candidate; and (3) independent voters are breaking towards Lieberman rather than Lamont. THere is no reason to think that Gore holds any particular influence over the repub or indie voters. Indeed, in 2000, when Lieberman was on the ballot both as a candidate for Senate and as Gore's VP nominee, he got more votes running alone for Senate than the Gore/Lieberman ticket got.

[blm]

13. Gotta agree with that - Gore would make a significant statement endorsing

Lamont. One that could not be ignored.

[greendog]

14. I wouldn't worry about Lieberman

Any advantage he'd gain as a 51rst Senator would be temporary.

Sure, he could overplay his hand and make demands to the Democrats in exchange for his support. Where would it get him? As soon as he wasn't needed he'd be out in the cold.

He'd get the same deal with the Republicans. A temporary advantage.

There will be another election in 2 years. Joe loses his bargaining power if we pick up or lose seats.

If a Senator has to resign due to illness or scandal and their Governor is from the opposite Party the balance of power shifts. Joe loses his bargaining power.

Senators serve 6 year terms. If Joe wants to be a player for ALL six of those years he's going to align himself with the party that gives him (and his corporate masters) the best long term advantage. If the Democratic Party has enough momentum to pick up six seats for a majority Joe would be a fool to go with a Party that just lost several seats.

[salinen]

15. Zell Lieberman

[mcking]

16. I'm with the OP on this.

I have been hating Lieberman more and more as the days go on. To the point I've been wishing I could move to CT just to vote against him. The man is scary.

[Robbien]

17. I have a sneaking suspicion the DLC is working from within

the Lamont campaign. Lamont was all over the internets but then all of a sudden in September it got very quiet.

Right after the primary win, at the end of August DLC consultants Stephanie Cutter and Howard Wolfson joined Lamont's campaign to "help" out.
http://www.wonkette.com/politics/clinton/harry--hillary-loan-top-goons-to-lamont-campaign-196756.php


We all know the DLC has very little use for netroots progressives.

[blm]

25. If Hill's communications guy is "helping" Lamont, where's the visibility

one would expect from a highpowered guy like Wolfson?

[Mr_Spock]

18. I HATE LIEberman

I hate him as much as any backstabbing Republican.

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

19. Figure out a way to get CT repubs to vote for their party's

candidate, not Joe. That's a lot of the problem - he has the backing of the Repubs. The fact that the DLC lent him a campaign spokesperson doesn't help either. They should be supporting the candidate that we CT Dems chose in the primary.


Have you visited the CT forum lately ? There is a post there about a website whosesideareyouon.org (or was it .com ?) which is trying to persuade CT repubs that Alan is their man.

[LynzM]

36. This is an excellent point.

Schlessinger, the Repub candidate, is polling at 4%.

4%.

Triple that to even 12%, and likely almost all those votes come from Lieberman supporters.

[saracat]

20. Look, I am rooting for Lamont but outside of DU,Gore doesn't really have

that much clout.People remember all the negative spin and while a few get the global warming issue, that has zip to do with this election. Conn has a LOT of Republicans and unless you can get them to vote for Lamont , he isn't going to win.It has little to do with the DLC.The DlC, whom I do NOT like, don't have that much clout either.The voters just remember that Joe hasn't been that bad for Conn. and apparently he has brought home the bacon.They don't want to lose his seniority. Many Conn.voters are business people and are leary of buying a "pig in a poke" as they see Lamont, as opposed to a known entity. If I were Lamont, I would position Lieberman as a man who has no loyalty and can't be trusted. I would do a commercial about a man cheating on his wife who promises the second wife he would never cheat on her because she is "different". The first wife would be the Democratic Party and the second wife would be the combined voters of Conn. I would then say, "He cheated once, he will do it again. Joe Liberman is not a man to be trusted". Fear and doubt may be the key because elections are NOT won on the issues and Iraq ain't in play in Conn.

[ChiciB1]

22. Checking My Election Site & It Shows 41% Dems & 33 % Indep. So

given the fact that Lamont IS a successful business man, why would business people be afraid?

Besides, hasn't Mr. Lie actually shown his "true colors" by now?? You say they don't want to buy a "pig in a poke" but seems to me that have a "a dirty swine in a poke" right now!! From what I know, and it may not be much, my perception is that CT is a fairly wealthy state. Are they mostly "I got mine AND I want to keep it?"

Her is a man who BLATANTLY ignores the "will of his party" and thumbs his "finger" to the rest and says, It' ME, ME, ME or else? Doesn't make me think kindly of CT and this is one state I HAD always wanted to visit someday!

Looks like SNOBBERY of the highest order! It's bad enough living in Cruella's District here in FL, but I thought Easterners had more of a liberal side.

What a shame!!!

[saracat]

24. Conn.is a mixed bag! And it has a lot of wealthy stock broker

types.It also is the home of many insurance companies up by Hartford.Remember, Gorge Bush and his family are from Conn.(Greenwich) And for certain areas of Conn., Greenwich for one."I've got mine and I'm going to keep it is an apt description, sad to say.

[Tom Joad]

21. Hate to break the news to you. but Lieberman ain't the only rightist

"Democrat"
Still, he should be defeated.

[AzDar]

26. A win for Lieberman would be a loss for the Democratic Process.

Ned Lamont ALREADY WON; Lieberman is a snake.

[MzNov]

28. I think after Lamont's stunning win, people are assuming

he'll beat the crap out of LIEberman. Obviously the race is close. I think this calls for Bill Clinton to call in his chip and demand that Lieberman get out of the race. Clinton campaigned for him in the primary and Lieberman mouthed the words "I owe you one." Yeah, well it's time now to pay up, crazy bastard.

To Bill Clinton: demand that Holy Joe remove himself. We're all sick of this idiot and completely out of patience with his shenanigans. He can go join his wife in the lobbying firm.

:dem: :kick:

[ChiciB1]

29. Okay, Then Why Don't WE Try To Give Clinton a Super NUDGE

in this direction. I know he's campaigning for others now, why not Lamont?? This would certainly give Mr. Lie a serious comeuppance and it just might be the boost that Lamont needs!

Is there a web site that Clinton has other than one for his Global Initiative? We need a Super personality like him to give the weasel his comeuppance!! Does anyone else think we need to lend a hand to Lamont?? I've seen polls that show Lamont BEHIND anywhere from 10 to 20 points. Seems IMPOSSIBLE to me, but that's a disaster!

Sorry if I sound like a broken record, but Mr. Lie has really, really pissed me off!

C'mon, let's try to DO SOMETHING!!

[MzNov]

32. Let's do it. Everyone write to Bill and urge him to support Lamont.

Hillary supports Lamont!!!!!

And contact Sam Seder of AAR, he was Ned's biggest supporters! I'm sure he still is.

:kick:

[ChiciB1]

33. As Soon As I Find A Good Link... I AM Going To Write!

What can it hurt?? As Nov. 7th gets closer and closer my DESIRE to kick this guy out knows NO bounds!!

Almost like kicking out The Idiot for me!! It will give me so much satisfaction for some strange reason!

If anyone knows how to reach Big Dawg ASAP please let me know! Thanks.

[blm]

34. My guess is that Clintons are already involved, outwardly for Lamont and

behind the scenes for Joe.

[stepnw1f]

31. KICK! LIEBERMAN The Poison Pill Needs to GO!!!! (NT)

[Mend]

35. I have heard that there are a lot of Jewish voters in CT and that

they will all be voting for Lieberman....it is all about Israel. Very sad as I am sure Lamont would hardly be against Israel. When these people find this country turns into a Christian theocracy, I am sure they are going to be pretty startled but apparently there is no convincing them.

[Swamp Rat]

38. Lieberman = Trojan Horse