DAMAGE CONTROL: McCain blames NK-nuke test on

[radfringe]

Clinton...

heard it on Situation Room (CNN)...

according to McCain - Clinton used too many carrots (i.e. negoitiation and diplomacy etc.) and no sticks to force NK to stop nuke research/development - therefore it's Clinton's fault that bush failed

:banghead: and we need an smiley for exploding head...

[blue cat]

1. So what the hell

has Bush done for the last 6 years? They are wimps who take responsibility for nothing.

[Downtown Hound]

2. Hey McCain, shove it up your ass!

Why even bother mentioning to them that Clinton hasn't been president in over six years? Their lies and delusions run so deep that logic hasn't even been invented in that universe yet.

[MrScorpio]

3. Further proof that he's Republican

I'm surprised that he didn't blame the Clenis

[Fresh_Start]

4. Under inspection during Clinton

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0405.kaplan.html

[Nictuku]

5. Closest I could find

[napi21]

6. I just heard him say that! In my Paper this AM there was an OP

that blamed terrorism on.....are you ready for this????




Jimmy Carter!!!!!

What in the world is wrong with these people?????

I guess none of us will have to feel guilty about blaming Shrub for EVERY PROBLEM we have to fix for the next TWENTY YEARS! The difference is, IT WILL BE TRUE!!!!

(Snip)

So basically, Carter's decision not to use force has made the Islamic terrorist movement what it is today.

http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/stories/20061010/opinion/129835.shtml

[stepnw1f]

7. Hey McCain... When They Tortured You They Broke You

Hate to say it, but you have no soul left, that's if you ever had one at all.

[Monk06]

8. Does this mean they're not friends anymore? Let me get this straight

It's Clinton's fault that Shrub didn't nuke
North Korea.

Someone tell McCain that bong water is a coolant
not a beverage.

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[thepurpose]

9. Some basic facts

Some basic facts.

The 1994 crisis came about because the North Koreans were producing weapons-grade plutonium. Under the Agreed Framework, they agreed to shutter the plutonium production facility and put the already produced plutonium under international oversight.

In return, the US promised aide, help building lightwater reactors (which don't help with bombs) and diplomatic normalization.

That agreement kept the plutonium operation on ice until the end of 2002.

President Bush came to office wanting to pull out of the agreement and did so when evidence surfaced suggesting that the North Koreans were secretly trying to enrich uranium (a separate path to the bomb).

The bomb that went off yesterday was made with plutonium, the same stuff that was off-limits from 1994-2002. In all likelihood some of the same stuff that was on ice from 1994-2002.

To the best of my knowledge, no one thinks the North Koreans are close to having enough uranium to make a nuclear weapon that way. And it's not even completely they were ever trying to enrich uranium.

So Clinton strikes deal to keep plutonium out of the North Koreans' hands. The deal keeps the plutonium out of reach for the last six years of Clinton's term and the first two of Bush's. Bush pulls out of the deal. Four years later a plutonium bomb explodes.

Clinton's fault, right?

There's certainly an argument to be made that you don't make agreements with parties you don't trust, like the North Koreans. And perhaps President Bush would have had some leg to stand on if he'd pulled out of the Agreed Framework and replaced it with something better -- either force or a better agreement. But he didn't. He just did nothing for four years. Now we have plutonium, probably uranium and actual bombs. And according to McCain, it's all Bill Clinton's fault.

(ed.note: As a somewhat separate matter, there is legitimate debate about who was more responsible for the breakdown of the Agreed Framework. Neither side lived up to what it had promised. But that's another story. The key though is what exploded Sunday night.)

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

[EstimatedProphet]

10. Of course he's right

The fact that Clinton was president once means Bush isn't capable of doing his job.

[Rex]

11. What did you expect the idiot to say? He is a Repuke just like all the

others. Sick little person with a pathetic life.

[NOLADEM]

12. Your left your soul at the Hanoi Hilton, Johnny

Go fuck yourself.

You have sold out.

Hugging Bush, speaking at whackjob 'universities'.

Pandering to the anti-Clintonites in the face of actual threat to our country.

Endorsing torture for political purposes, your past and your dignity be damned.

Johnny, you are a piece of shit.

Such a maverick it is that licks such fine boots.