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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 01:23 AM
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Pimp Slap those Clinton North Korean Nay Sayers!
BLAME CLINTON!

It's like the only card they have, isn't it? Now we're there again with North Korea.

I wonder why I bother. It's not like I expect anything other than lies from the current administration any longer.
I'm baffled that the rest of the world doesn't see these people for what they are, so it is with some despair that I point out the obvious and easily googled facts about Clinton and North Korea.

Basically, under Clinton, NK's program was in stasis. WE EVEN HAD CAMERAS WATCHING HIS URANIUM.

Not so long ago, Bush had his NK failings pointed out in the debate with John Kerry.

You can hear it:
http://play.rbn.com/?url=demnow/demnow/demand/2004/oct/audio/dn20041001.ra&proto=rtsp&start=43:35.00

You can watch it:
http://play.rbn.com/?url=demnow/demnow/demand/2004/oct/video/dnB20041001a.rm&proto=rtsp&start=43:35.00

You can read it:
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/01/1421215

(thanks to FLDem5 at democraticunderground.com for the links)

In a response to Bush's rambling answer about "five-party" talks, Kerry pointed out the simple facts:

"With respect to North Korea, the real story: We had inspectors and television cameras in the nuclear reactor in North Korea. Secretary Bill Perry negotiated that under President Clinton. And we knew where the fuel rods were. And we knew the limits on their nuclear power. Colin Powell, our Secretary of State, announced one day that we were going to continue the dialogue of working with the North Koreans. The president reversed it publicly while the president of South Korea was here. And the president of South Korea went back to South Korea bewildered and embarrassed because it went against his policy. And for two years, this administration didn‘t talk at all to North Korea. While they didn‘t talk at all, the fuel rods came out, the inspectors were kicked out, the television cameras were kicked out. And today, there are four to seven nuclear weapons in the hands of North Korea. That happened on this president‘s watch."

Here is PBS News Hour report from about the time things had soured in June 2003:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/features/jan-june03/nkorea.html

AND


Just after coming to power, Clinton faced a crisis on the Korean peninsula. Though imperfect, the Clinton plan did freeze the production of Plutonium and placed NK fuel rods under lock and key.

Bush, on the other hand, looked for any failure of NK to obey the agreement as an excuse to pull out and cut off fuel oil shipments. Along with post-9/11 sabre rattling, this move started us on the road to where we are today.

Strangely, even while antagonizing them and threatening them, Bush continued TO FUND NK's NUCLEAR PROGRAM. He even waived our right to inspectors:

As seen here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/1908571.stm

"In releasing the funding, President George W Bush waived the Framework's requirement that North Korea allow inspectors to ensure it has not hidden away any weapons-grade plutonium from the original reactors."
By December 2002, the "Axis of Evil" rhetoric and refusal to talk prompted the North Koreans to kick out the inspectors and remove the cameras monitoring their fuel rods, in stasis since the mid 1990's.

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/east/12/27/nkorea.expulsions/

So from 1994 through 2002, the program was frozen. Where did the nuclear material come from?
Why was this such a hot potato on Clinton's watch?

According to:
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/dprk/nuke/index.html

"close examination by the IAEA of the radioactive isotope content in the nuclear waste revealed that North Korea had extracted about 24 kilograms of Plutonium. North Korea was supposed to have produced 0.9 gram of Plutonium per megawatt every day over a 4-year period from 1987 to 1991. The 0.9 gram per day multiplied by 365 days by 4 years and by 30 megawatts equals to 39 kilograms. When the yearly operation ratio is presumed to be 60 percent, the actual amount was estimated at 60% of 39 kilograms, or some 23.4 kilograms. Since 20-kiloton standard nuclear warhead has 8 kilograms of critical mass, this amounts to mass of material of nuclear fission out of which about 3 nuclear warheads could be extracted. "

errrr, wait, who was in office then? Reagan and Bush.

Looks like a Clinton presidency in hand is worth two Bushes where a nuclear NK is concerned.

Help me add more links to this thread and answer these F-tards on public forums and in your local papers.
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 01:32 AM
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1. thank you oh research guru....n/t
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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 01:38 AM
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2. Check this gem out...
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