Official Senate Debate – Alito Nomination – Thread 8

[Lasher]

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[Sydnie]

1. Kerry slamming Mann Coulter

I am loving it. Make them eat that crow stuffed with their hatred, Mr. President.

[gkhouston]

3. why on Earth is he talking about her/him/it? n/t

[LoKnLoD]

9. That's what they do

Osama - Michael Moore, Howard Dean et al.

[Sydnie]

10. He is talking about how Mann said blivet** was throwing away a seat

when he nominated Miers. Talking about her pukey rightwingedness. hehehehe :rofl:

[CottonBear]

11. He's talking about Bush's base's support for Alito vs what's good for USA

and how Alito makes access to justice harder rather than easier.

[Wordie]

36. It's an EXCELLENT point. She is SO extreme

and she was against Meirs, and EVEN ROBERTS!!!!!!

...but she supported Alito wholeheartedly.

I was really glad to hear him make that point!

[ronnykmarshall]

12. What did he say about that slag?

[Sydnie]

14. see posts above ^ n/t

[blm]

38. Basically that Bush panders to furthest right with his pick, not America

as a whole.

[Lasher]

37. What's your situation now, Syndie?

Can you take over? I'm gonna need to slide.

Lasher

[Viva_La_Revolution]

49. I'm back! at least for 3 hours, then gotta go again.

Thanks!

[Sydnie]

52. Good, it's on you ,

I have to split now myself. Should be back in about 2 or 3 hours. Had to wait for Kerry to speak. I wasn't disappointed at all. Worth the wait! :woohoo:

[LeftCoast]

85. You all have been doing a great job!

:thumbsup:

[Lasher]

61. Dat right, Viva, U da Wumman!

The torch is passed, you have the conn.

Lasher

[Wordie]

63. Associating Alito with Coulter was a stroke of genious!

Talk about mobilizing your base!

[CottonBear]

2. Kerry is laying into Ann Coulter right now.

;) GO JOHN!

[yodermon]

5. I love to see coulter bashed

as much as anyone else, but she seems so ... trivial.. to even mention her on the senate floor. :shrug:
just IMHO.

[Moochy]

8. She's the she-wolf of the right

Her view typifies the fascist right. She loves her that Alito. I see your point about her being unworthy of quoting on the senate floor though.

[RaleighNCDUer]

17. She-wolf is too generous --

Wolves are intelligent, noble creatures.

She is a stinking, mangy coyote bitch.

[Moochy]

20. I meant she-wolf

in this sense:

[RaleighNCDUer]

74. LOL!!

Thank you. I retract my comment with as much grace as I can muster.

[cascadiance]

100. Here's a better pic of her as Ilsa!

[gkhouston]

6. please refrain

from using any tense of "lay" and "Ann Coulter" in the same sentence. Thank you. ;-)

[Lasher]

13. LOL!

Heeeeee, heeeeee! :rofl:

[helderheid]

4. He's kicking aaaassssssss!

:kick:

[CottonBear]

7. Go John go! He's laying into Pat Buchanan too!

"A nomination for the base, Mr. President, no the country."

[bigscott]

15. SO WHY NO FILIBUSTER?

After every senator has their little say we should be asking the same thing -SO WHY NO FILIBUSTER??

[gkhouston]

16. it's Day One. No need to go for the filibuster until they're

actually going to vote.

[helderheid]

18. when is the vote?

[gkhouston]

21. Maybe Friday? Anybody know for sure?? n/t

[flpoljunkie]

30. Read that vote may be Tuesday, so it will get lost in Bush's SOTU speech!

Interesting, no?

[Wordie]

67. I read the strategy was to try to get him sworn in before the SOTU.nt

[doublethink]

31. Think they will wait to Friday and see 'what happens' ?

:shrug: doesn't look to good for our team at the moment. Can they really be hiding their hand? Or are they throwing up the white flag on this battle? Getting mixed signals here. Peace.

[gkhouston]

42. Reid's leading the show. If they've got the votes for a filibuster,

I'd expect him to hide his hand. We just aren't going to know until it actually happens... or doesn't.

[doublethink]

59. Thanks gkhouston .....

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!" Will Rogers. We know what these criminal Repubs are up to, but man it gets frustrating at times being a Democrat! Peace. :)

[gumby]

34. Senators are announcing their vote.

Clearly along party lines. Nelson (D) voted FOR Alito.

I predict that NONE of the "moderate" Repubs will vote NAY. Party line vote means that the filibuster is the only way that the Democrats can try to stop Alito.

Even if the Democrats loose, it is very important that history records them as doing "all they could" to prevent the inevitable train/democracy wreck that Alito will facilitate on the court.

[LiberalAndProud]

22. if I were to guess

I think perhaps a filibuster is not out of the question, yet

Am I correct that debate is scheduled through Friday?

[Nimrod2005]

27. Specter said Saurday or until it is over...Kept it open. n/t

[gkhouston]

Friday is what I thought. The R's want this done by next Tuesday

(SOTU address). Lots o' luck on that one, guys.

[neverevergivein]

19. what are the numbers on the left of the screen?

I thought the vote hasn't been taken yet, and couldn't be until after cloture

[gkhouston]

23. that's the projected vote, based on way the senators have said

they intend to vote. It's unofficial and non-binding.

[CottonBear]

24. Sort of preliminary votes. They can change their minds if so inclined. nt

[pstokely]

26. I think those are unofficial numbers

[Nimrod2005]

28. What do they say now?

[ralps]

25. He's bringing up Bush's signing statements.- W/ the torture signing

statement. :hi:

[Wordie]

53. Another good point:

He said that nobody is saying that Judge Alito isn't a nice man, or that he is accomplished, etc. He is all of those things. But those aren't reasons to confirm him...then went on to all the reasons he is wrong for the country.

The RWers act as if the fact that he appears to be a "nice guy" and is highly intelligent and accomplished are in themselves the reasons to confirm him!

[LittleClarkie]

114. Kennedy talked about that too

How the president signs something into law, then says, "But hey, it doesn't apply to me. I'm above the law."

And that Alito is fine with this. More than fine.

[Vektor]

29. Kerry: "Last and perhaps most importantly, a woman's right to choose..."

YOU GO SENATOR KERRY. He is KICKING THE SHIT out of Nazilito's attacks on womens' rights.

Is it any wonder ladies love cool J?

[Nimrod2005]

32. Excellent...

:toast:

[Vektor]

35. I'm glad Kerry cares about my uterus.

He should, because he has inadvertently caused it to engorge and flutter on many occasions.

:evilgrin:

[helderheid]

39. LMAO!!!

I don't have a uterus anymore but I'm glad he cares about my daughter's!

[Vektor]

41. He's lovely that way...

With Kerry in office, all our lady parts will thrive!

[gkhouston]

47. wow, some of you

are REALLY "into" politics. :evilgrin:

[Vektor]

50. Actually, I'm a rabid politico...

Who sometimes has to take a break from the wonk and the tension to step back and appreciate the "hidden strengths" of the good Senator.

Then, it's business as usual!

But yes, EVERY fiber of my being is deeply involved in the fight. Uterine fibers included. :-)

[ralps]

33. "How can we trust Alito now after what Alito did w/ Vangard"- paraphrasing

:hi:

[Straight Shooter]

40. I just want to say Thank You to everyone for keeping tabs on this.

No TV here. Working.

I'm so proud to be jumping in and saying this while my President is speaking! :patriot:

[Vektor]

46. Vomitbag Santorum is on now.

I had to turn the TV off. :puke:

[givemebackmycountry]

55. TV here...

And as Kerry was wrapping up just out of curiosity (unlike The Chimp, I actually have curiosity) I flipped over to MSNRC and CNN.

CNN had the Chimps visit to the Memorex building (NSA) where they listen to all of our phone calls and read all of our feeble postings.

MSNRC had Richard Hatch of "Survivor" fame going to jail for tax evasion.

Not that I expected anything different, I just found it unusual that they wouldn't go "LIVE" when the President was speaking on CSPAN2 at the Alito hearings.

Oh, that's right.

Diebold.

Damn, I always forget that part.


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[Wordie]

43. Kerry gave an exceptionally EXCELLENT speech!

He made great points, and eloquently!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

44. Well, at least I got to catch the end of Kerry's remarks...

What other Dems did I miss since Byrd was talking about the miners?

[LiberalAndProud]

51. Check thread 7. You missed some good stuff.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

54. Thanks, I'll do it now while this smarmy Sanitorium bloviates. nt

[ralps]

57. Barbara Milkulski(spelling?), Hilary Clinton John Kerry and others,

I'm glad you're back. :hi:

[ralps]

45. Gack Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania up now

:hi:

[helderheid]

48. switching to Randi for awhile.

[givemebackmycountry]

65. Great minds...

I just did the same thing as she was coming out of break.

I think she's on to something.
She says she smells a back room deal going on with Alito.
She says somebody wants something and there is something going on.

Randi is a handful.
I love this broad.
Every time I tune in, I learn something.

[LiberalAndProud]

62. .

if anybody cares.

reducing confirmation process to who's side he ruled on and whether he fits a particular view.
we do not keep score cards of what side of "little guy big guy" how you came down on cases. and we certainly have not had ideological litmus tests.
we are morphin the judical selection process into a campaign process
we are not selecting someone we have a right to know their ideology
blind justice
disturbed by criticism but encouraged by Alito and the way he conducted himself. credential and experience

...blah blah blah...

that's all I can bear, sorry guys

[Jara sang]

56. Santorum has obviously never taken a public speaking class.

Having him up right after Kerry shows how inept Santorum is a public servant.

[Wordie]

58. Santorum saying that we don't have ideological litmus tests for

judicial nominees. LOL

That's how come Alito was chosen by Bush, you dummie!

[kentuck]

60. The illogical Senator Santorum...

The Big Guy or the Little Guy is not always right, he says. But, one would think, that the "little guy" would be right every once in a blue moon, would you not? Judge Alito's record does not show that he has stood up for the little guy? So where is the logic in his argument for Alito??

[Sydnie]

66. you would think the little guy would at least get heard once in a while nt

[ralps]

68. Gack He's bringing up Thomas Jefferson

:hi:

[Wordie]

84. Sad...Jefferson somehow becomes tainted by Hatch even mentioning his name.

[bettyellen]

69. how dare that smug little pin head even talk about the balance of power

he's a true threat to the democracy, as well as a frothy mix.....

[gkhouston]

70. LOL, you know you've been hanging around DU too long

when you can finish that sentence.

[bettyellen]

115. actually i got it from Dan Savage, the Sex advice columnist who started

whole thing. His "Savage Love" is always a good read.

[ralps]

71. Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah

:hi:

[gkhouston]

72. and speaking of froth.... n/t

[Sugarcoated]

73. He makes me retch

[Marnieworld]

78. I just put my headphones on to hear who was speaking

I have c-span open all day at work but headphones for sound. Not even looking at the face I recognized the voice and took off headphones immediately. He turns my stomach. He is a resident of Mordor.

[LoKnLoD]

81. Morder..Utah

same difference... in a political sense, beautiful country though...

[Wordie]

80. He just pointed out that most of the cases of the SC are not concerned

with cases of presidential power or abortion (saying those are the liberal concerns). What an absolutely absurd point to make. It only takes one or two such cases to change our country dramatically. It's totally irrelevant that there would only be a few of them. The point is that if confirmed, it would be Alito deciding those few.

:puke:

[helderheid]

79. Get RID of Hatch - support Pete Ashdown www.peteashdown.org

www.peteashdown.org

[Wordie]

75. Why is it that the RW is only concerned about LIBERAL activist judges.

Every indication is that Alito is a CONSERVATIVE activist judge, yet you don't hear these windbags, like Hatch, speaking now, ever complain about that!

[gkhouston]

76. you can make out actual words when he talks?

I usually just get that "wah-wah" sound like when the teacher talks to Charlie Brown on "Peanuts" specials...

[Wordie]

88. It really grates when he does that screechy indignant thingie w/ it. nt

[LoKnLoD]

77. Time to mute my media player

hatch is my senator and I despise him, I've given up on writing to him about anything, all I get is a canned Repuke response.

[Wordie]

82. WRONG! A "scorecard" is important to determine if Alito's in mainstream.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

83. Don't you just love how he takes a statement...

and completely twists it assbackwards. and the derogatory attitude. blech!

[ralps]

90. Hatch is bringing up how the Appellate court judges testified before the

committee. Again They shouldn't have testified. :hi:

[Wordie]

91. He makes me cringe. eom

[Skidmore]

86. Anyone have a hook?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

87. No...

but I do have a realy sharp stick...

on edit: Hi Agent Mike! That was a joke, really.

[Skidmore]

94. Damn.

I wanna see a giant vaudeville hook come out of the wings and snatch Oral Hatch to oblivion.

[LoKnLoD]

89. Really

isn't his time up yet? :banghead:

[ralps]

I've noticed how the Dems have someone calling time on them & Repubs

don't. :hi:

[annabanana]

116. - been that way for 5 years now...n/t

[Dawgs]

92. Is he going to start crying now?

This guy is pathetic!!

[Wordie]

93. Don't forget to recommend this page! And thanks again, Viva!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

95. it's really a selfish obsession...

but I'm glad you guys come along for the ride! B-)

[Wordie]

96. ..."in closing"... Oh thank God.

wonder how long he'll continue to blather on...

[Viva_La_Revolution]

101. What the hell poll is he looking at!!?

:shrug:

[Wordie]

110. Probably CNN's; one said majority would oppose if he would overturn Roe

Here:
Poll: Majority would oppose Alito if he would overturn Roe
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/09/alito.poll/

A later poll said Alito's numbers had gone up, but still a majority would not approve if he would overturn Roe.

The problem, of course, is whether that poll was accurate, and how much influence all the rosy msm stuff has had on the public.

[Ammonium]

97. Nelson

Nelson of Nebraska votes yes...wtf. The DNC ought to cut his funding, and any other dems that vote yes. I'm sick of this non-unified demcrat front. Dean needs to get them all to toe the fucking line or boot them out and replace them with someone who will. How the hell are we suppose to put up an opposition to the rethugs when we're not unified under one banner?

rant off :-)

[ralps]

99. The vote hasn't happened yet

:hi:

[Ammonium]

111. C-Span

C-SPAN2 has some tallies on the side of their screen?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

109. I differ with you a little there...

If we don't like it when Delay strongarms the Repugs into voting party line, why is it ok when we do?

On this particular subject though, you may be correct.

[Ammonium]

113. But

We don't like it when Delay does it because he's our opposition, and it works against us.

[LiberalAndProud]

98. who said that? "whatever it takes"

i am not a member of a left-wing interest group (unless you count DU).

[hwmnbn]

102. This MoFo hatch is STILL ON!?

Who's keeping time? I swear he's been on 2 hours!! Get that turkey off!

[ralps]

103. LOL Sen Patrick Leahy Would like Hatch to quote Leahy accurately

:hi:

[LoKnLoD]

105. Pat Leahy - 1 , Orrin Hatch - 0

Good smackdown Pat!!!

:spank:

[ncrainbowgrrl]

106. "No, I will NOT yield!"

In your face, Orrin Hatch,

[Viva_La_Revolution]

104. Thread 9 is up!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x239679

[ralps]

107. Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida opposes Alito

:hi:

[ncrainbowgrrl]

108. Locking- here's thread #9

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x239679

[kpete]

112. Wow

Because of this I am going to vote NO on his confirmation

Thanks Senator Nelson