Analyzing South Park's 9/11 Show

[rman]

Analyzing South Park's 9/11 Show
by Bill Douglas
www.opednews.com
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_bill_dou_061012_analyzing_south_park.htm

Last night I watched South Park in AMAZEMENT, as their character for the 9/11 truth movement wore a black shirt with "911TRUTH.ORG" in huge white letters that ALWAYS seemed to be facing the viewers. It got better, Cartman and his buddy actually got to the White House where Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al, confessed to the crimes of 9/11.

Then things descended, and it was all a hoax, and Bush et al said that actually they were the ones who created the 9/11 truth movement, to fool Americans into believing they controlled everything, and that all those tens of millions believing 9/11 was an inside job were fools manipulated by the smart Bush people.

So many possibilities emerge from this. One thing I've found over the last few years is that media will often write a "9/11 hit piece" and then weave within it many links and information that gets the reader curious about the fact that the official story doesn't really make sense, when you look at it. This harkens back to the old KGB run Soviet Union, where journalists would "hide" facts within stories, and the Soviet people were savvy enough to get the "real" message.

A few months after 9/11 a Canadian newspaper writer did just this, writing what looked like a 9/11 hit piece, but working major disturbing facts in it, and then giving my email address [e-mail] for those wanting more information. When I called him, he apologized for the hit piece quality, but said that's the only way he could get the facts to the public, past his editor. The result was amazing. I got hundreds of emails from angry Canadians who believed that 9/11 was an inside job, and who'd read past the Trojan horse hit piece aspect and saw the facts within the article.

I believe the makers of South Park may have been doing the same thing. The reason I say this, is because the "911TRUTH.ORG" organizer character was on the screen A LOT, with his chest, where the t-shirt said "911TRUTH.ORG" in huge white letters aimed right at the camera or the viewers. It was up on the screen for a long, long, long time. When I went to www.911truth.org last night while the show was on it was slower than it had ever been. My educated guess is that this was due to MASSIVE traffic on the site, people watching South Park were running to their computers to check out this 911TRUTH.ORG. 911truth.org is one of the finest 9/11 truth websites, and a GREAT portal for new people to enter the 9/11 truth movement. Perhaps the South Park creators were savvy enough to do what the Canadian newspaper writer had done early on, get the message out "in any way possible."

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By William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, 9/11 and Media Crimes" and also "Why the Jewish Community Should Demand 9/11 Truth."

[kenny blankenship]

1. Isn't it obvious? Matt Stone and Trey Parker carried out 9/11 attacks

themselves--hence all their attempts to scatter blame in so many misleading directions.
It's the only explanation that makes sense. Why would they be exerting themselves to create so much confusion unless they were the guilty ones?

[kster]

41. Trivia, Who was the guy who planned 911 and

where did he live? According to the Goverment and the media's story, BE HONEST.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

63. I agree, it is obvious

Both take their orders from Tel Aviv and report to Bilderberg. This episode was done to divert attention away from Stone and Parker's war crimes. Matt Stone was Laura Bush's MI6 handler before Miguel Sanchez, Mexican terrorist had gender reassignment surgery and became Laura Bush in the 1980s. The Bush twins were born from George W Bush affairs with a French-Canadian Jewish call girl who was ex-KGB.

[LSparkle]

2. I was open-mouthed as well

S.O. and I were both looking at each other like "can you believe this?" and shaking our heads. When it "descended" as noted above, I was at first disappointed but I think the above analysis may be right. The 911truth.org t-shirt WAS featured prominently and Matt and Trey are no fools ... I'm sure there was method in their "madness."

But where was Towlie last night?

[Kurovski]

36. He had no idea what was going on.

[valerief]

3. They did the same thing with their Priests Molesting Boys show. nt

[katinmn]

4. I saw the show as well

Just the fact that they featured the 9/11 movement was something. It's another way of getting it into the mainstream.

And they made the point that 25% of the American public does not believe the offical story.

[Warren Stupidity]

5. I believe Stone and Parker are political idiots.

See "South Park Republicans". Although the warcraft episode was not bad.

[lapfog_1]

17. But it was cheap to make!!!

At least one episode a year features CG animation or live video which is much cheaper to shoot than
even the "cut out" stop motion animation that makes up the majority of their shows. I've often
wondered if they are intentionally doing it to save $$$.

[ComerPerro]

20. I find that very hard to believe

Granted, I would have no way of knowing, but it just seems so counter-intuitive that stop-motion animation on cut out pieces of paper would be more expensive than CG animation.

Its true that some of their scenes they could have just lifted from screen captures of the game, but some of the scenes in that episode were custom-animated for them (because they couldn't be created in WoW).

I am not challenging you or demanding evidence, I am just very surprised.

[lapfog_1]

26. Stop motion, whether claymation or cut-out

is very labor intensive... though not nearly as labor intensive as, say, a Disney hand drawn multi-layered
animation (Snow White or similar).

And I'm sure the lads did do some custom CGI for the TV show... not being a WoW player I don't know.
But whatever they did within the realm of WoW, it would seem to be much less expensive than even
their stop-motion cutouts... however, since I don't know how much custom CGI animation was done... I'll
back off on the claim that it was cheaper. If you could easily do the characters in the game and
the backgrounds and the special effects like the sword of destiny or whatever it was called, then
CGI *should* have been cheaper.

Of course, other key frame hand drawn animation, like The Simpsons or Futurama or Family Guy, is
even more expensive because of the labor... even though all of those shows off-shore the key frame
drawings.

I used to do consulting for Disney Animation.

[ComerPerro]

33. that's fascinating

since stop motion seems so low-tech, one would assume it would be cheaper.

Interesting.

[Monkey see Monkey Do]

27. All of their episodes are done on computers apart from

the very first 'Spirit of Christmas' shorts & poss the pilot for Comedy Central (but I'd have to look the latter up). They write & produce an episode in a week -- starting Thursday morning & having it air Wednesday night.

[lapfog_1]

31. Didn't know that. Makes sense, but why stay with the

look and feel of stop motion cutouts? I guess because it's their "trademark" now.

[ComerPerro]

34. You break away from that style, you get accused of "selling out"

[Marnieworld]

51. They use Flash to animate the show

They can produce a show in a week if they want to and often do. Example: When Issac Hayes quit the show they had an episode in response to it within a week. I'm impressed they can even finish writing a good script within a week let alone animate it.

[whopis01]

69. south park is always CGI

Only the very first episode of South Park ever used stop motion animation with construction paper cut outs. Since then they have always used computer animation to make the episodes. It is just easier and cheaper that way.

[ComerPerro]

19. not according to a lot of DUers

apparently Trey Parker is a masterful satarist and an all around genius.

Suggest even once that he promotes RW agendas while trashing liberalism, and you are going to get flamed. At best, people will tell you that you are just too damn stupid to understand how great South Park is.

I made two or three comments, and I am still dealing with the South Park Sycophants. And that was two fucking days ago!

[Gabi Hayes]

30. the best part is to get those blowhards to start pronouncing on the

rest of their esthetics, after insisting that what they judge to be 'good,' is inherently good, and that their opinion is the standard by which all else is to be judged; no dissent allowed

pretty amusing

[lapfog_1]

35. I think I'm with you on this...

I watched one episode where they did a huge "hit job" on Al Gore and global warming... which reminded
me of Dennis Miller.

[nam78_two]

49. What I find funniest is the "they bash both sides arguments"

It isn't about being more sensitive when your side is attacked...its more about the degree..

There are instances where they have a point or two about some activists, lefties that I can recognize but they are usually pretty darn trite..

I find it funny when the Golden PSP episode is pushed as evidence of how they bash both sides. In that episode Cartman was basically a stand in for Michael Schaivo and just wanted the PSP and Stan and Kyle were the "well-meaning yet misguided" people wanting to take kenny off the tube.

They handle Bush with kid gloves-"Thats my Bush" was barely satire. "ho ho Bush speaks with a funny accent", "ha ha he is a well-meaning goof". There were a few shots here and there about the death penalty etc.

I wouldn't really care one way or the other if I didn't know three overall very apolitical guys, who at least had no opinion one way or the other on most political issues, who are no stridently opposed to the ACLU, environmentalists and activists on the lefty side of the spectrum...


The show can occasionally make a few hits and the apolitical ones can be funny (I found one "The Dof whisperer" kinda funny-but then I LOATHE reality tv so that could have to do with that ;)) but mostly the super cynical, no one ever does anything out of genuinely good intentions, its all about self-centred people wanting a "cause" very depressing....

The whole "everyone is stupid" gets old really fast....

[TheFarseer]

55. That's my Bush was done well before

everyone knew what a monster GW really is. It didn't really deal with anything political as far as Bush's actual positions on issues. He is certainly not for euthenasia, for instance. I wouldn't read too much into That's my Bush. Also, you fail to point out that ultimately, letting Kenny die was the right thing to do. My point is not to say that they don't lean right, they often do. I think throwing them in the category of "part of the Right-wing Noise Machine" is totally wrong though.

[krkaufman]

57. "They handle Bush with kid gloves" -- How about it!!

That's one of the things I noticed from this last episode, they presented Bush as this articulate Machiavellian fellow, w/ nary a bumbling word or tangent-to-nowhere thought.

If anyone is open to parody, it's that overachieving chimp, yet they seem to never touch him.

[ComerPerro]

61. When people tell me crap like "they bash both sides", I usually remind

"So does Bill O'Reiley" (that's what he claims, he hates "right wing extremists and left wing wackos").

But oddly enough, most people here hate OReiley. Could it be because he may get upset about the Right once a month (and still blames both sides, not just the right), but for the most part gives them a pass while slamming the left at every opportunity.

[nam78_two]

65. Yeah-I liked what Dan Froomkin wrote on that once

Well not SP specifically, but the whole "fair and balanced", which is another version of "they bash both sides" argument.
He said that you CANNOT simultaneously be fair and balanced. If you are being fair, and one side is fucking up wayyyyyyyy more than the other, you just cannot be balanced.

Now the SP boys are (thankfully) not journalists or thinkers so they have no obligation to be fair.

But the bs about "bash both sides equally" is just non-sense. To give them credit, they don't even propagate that themselves anymore...its just their fans. They have said many times that they hate liberals...

The extreme SP fans I personally know are like extreme Ayn Rand bots ;)-for all the claims of individuality and independence they really really want to believe that their idols are always right on everything and see eye to eye with them to on everything.

They have to interpret everything darling Trey and Matt do and make it fit their own views...I found it hilarious when they made that Family Guy bashing episode. I knew this guy who loves Futurama too and it was funny to watch him agonize over it and explain to anyone who would listen how they weren't actually bashing Family Guy-I guess so he could still feel ok about liking a show the glorious SP guys had dissed :rofl: :rofl:.

After all no one would want Trey and Matt to think you are one of the stupid ones would they :rofl:.....
(Not dissing the OP btw-I have no beef with the OP though I don't agree with the post-just dissing the SP-heads I know who are some of the most annoying people I have ever met :eyes: -SP has a big role in my life thanks to them x( x( )

[ComerPerro]

66. that's why the phrase "South Park Republicans" really took off

it defined the "Ayn Rand" bots, the anti-liberal, hateful libertarian crowd.

The ones who may not be conservatives in every sense, and usually reject Christianity and scapegoating of gays (they like gay bashing, but don't oppose gay marriage).


I like the phrase "Asshole Libertarian", as in, "I have a right to be an asshole if I want to"

[nam78_two]

67. Yeah defining liberal as being anti-fundie doesn't make much sense

I don't care for the fundies but I guess every liberal's pet peeve Repug or RWer is the type they meet the most.
I have almost never met a fundie in my life so my opinions about them are drawn from what I read in the newspapers etc. So its really mostly academic.

I typically like all the Christians I meet via NGOs or at homeless shelters etc. -they seem to see poverty and inequities as real issues to be tackled and most are registered Democrats. And they certainly have no problem with homosexuality-heck they go to gay pride rallies.

The RWers I meet a lot in my college town are obnoxious, me-first libertarians so personally thats the RWer that annoys me the most. And they are very obnoxious to me personally over any environmental or other causes I work on...fuck 'em....

[krkaufman]

56. SP creators seem to champion the accepted practices of ...

... bashing of liberals, political correctness (whatever that is), Hollywood celebrities, etc.

Some of their satire is spot-on, but more often attacks left-of-center, than right.

Bottom line is, Wednesday's show just wasn't funny. The only thing I recalled laughing at was Cartman's song, but that's just because "his" delivery is so hilarious. What the hell was up w/ the "Hardly Boys"...?

[Johonny]

21. I side with you on this

I think it's hypocritical that Matt and Trey make fun time and time again of others in the entertainment industry for expressing political views yet they themselves basically use their show as a platform to launch their own rather shallow political opinions.

Personally I thought they missed the best punchline. That the Bush White House couldn't have done it because 9/11 was successful and nothing Bush does works out so well.

[autorank]

38. "Jaded nihilsts" I agree with you.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2387668&mesg_id=2391893

[patrice]

6. Ouroborous. n/t

[seemslikeadream]

7. BRILLIANT!

[DaveJ]

8. Aren't characters always facing the camera on southpark?

You know how you pointed out that guy with the T-shirt was always facing straight toward the camera....

I don't know, I tend to think they were just trying to do an entertaining show. They probably wanted to make both sides of the conspiracy issue happy, and think they did a good job of that. I think they did a good job at showing that GWB is a fascist who wants to rule the country with fear, but that's a point that a typical Bush supporter would not notice. The t-shirt guy also had some unappealing characteristics as well, so I guess it balances out.

On a side note, I just happened to go over to 911Truth.org's website and noticed that 43% of people are not even aware that World Trade Center Building 7 collapsed. People are so ignorant.

[rman]

12. perhaps, but

they don't always have "911Truth.org" printed on their t-shirt, prominently and clearly readable.

[DaveJ]

14. Southpark is just trying to appeal to their audience

Southpark writers do not know any more about 9/11 than we do, so it's not like they have any fact to convey to us that the American public doesn't already know.

9/11 conspiracy websites have had very high ratings on the internet. For awhile the 9/11 video showing the squibs and everything was in the top 5 on YouTube.

IMHO, showing any website prominently helps integrate them into todays' multimedia culture. I don't think they are the best cartoon out there on cable anymore; they really have to do all they can just to stay on the air at this point. Of course that's just my own opinion.

BTW, my opinion with regard to 9/11 is that more than likely is was not just caused by 'a bunch of pissed off Muslims' like the cartoon says.

[rman]

15. The point is not whether or not the SP guys know,

the point is that people start questioning whether what officials told them about 9/11 is true.

[rinsd]

29. The characters are cutouts so the clairty of the shirt would not change

Geez did this author check out anything? Or did they just slap dash things into their world view?

[patcox2]

9. Thats right, when I say you are a crazy nutty tinfoiler . . .

I am just part of the conspiracy, because I am helping to make sure the evidence for the conspiracy can "hide in plain sight," as it were.

Same as with witches, actually. If they say they are a witch, they are a witch, and if they deny it, that proves they are a witch. Evidence which proves the 9/11 conspiracy obviously proves it, and evidence which disproves it, is obviously evidence of a conspiracy to disprove it, and why would their be a conspiracy to disprove it, if it weren't true?

They're coming to take me away, ha ha he he ho ho, to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time . . .

[yodermon]

10. lol, look @ their front page:

Thursday, October 12 2006
Hello, South Park Fans!

To those of you who already know that we don't know what happened on 9/11, you're definitely not alone--our Zogby poll in May found 45% of Americans want a new investigation because we know we were lied to! (Final report here). And for a long list of people within the government and military who also know, check out patriotsquestion911.com.

If you're absolutely new to the issue, take a walk through these links and decide for yourself what's true. (Oh, and no one has been shot in the head for investigating 9/11 to date, in case you were wondering.)

For a quick intro to some real information about these questions, we suggest you have a look at the following films online...

[krkaufman]

59. link? n/t

[OwnedByFerrets]

11. Kick

[kerry-is-my-prez]

13. I saw one of those www.911truth.org cards on my communities bulletin board

I live in a very Republican area too. When I went back to check a week later - it was down.

[McCamy Taylor]

16. Matt and Trey said what they said. Rove uses this fear tactic a lot.

I call it "Rove-Rasputin". The worst example (meanest) I can think of was during Election 2004, when Olbermann was the only one covering Ohio, and the White House was shitting bricks for fear that the rest of the press might break ranks and pick up the story in the light of the Ukraine story which Colin Powell had given legs. Recall that Olbermann mentor Ebersol and his two sons went down in a light plane crash and the youngest son died. There were immediate rumors that the White House or Rove had ordered the hit on Ebersol as a message to NBC to put a leash on Olberman. Rove did nothing to counter the rumors. I believe he encouraged them. The FAA took its time with the investigation, waiting until after W. was sworn in to announce that the pilot had never flown in icy/snowy weather before and didn't follow proper protocols such as de-icing, which made the accident a plausible accident.

Another example is the bogus Tularemia that was supposedly found in DC filters the weekend of the big peace march last year. Rove wants people to think that the administration is capable of doing anything, has no morals and infinite power, so that they will be paralyzed with fear.

Taking away our Constitutional rights, telling us they can through us in jail is supposed to silence most people into submission. That is what Cheney is counting on.

Matt and Trey made a very good political point on that show about how people can scare themselves---and how would be fascists end up profiting from it.

http://www.grandtheftelectionohio.com/051007.htm I call this one "Fear"

Rove had to stop being "Rove-Rasputin" under the advice of his lawyer during the Fitz Grand Jury investigation. It really hurt him and the White House. He has never recovered his image.

http://www.grandtheftelectionohio.com/051101.htm "Sympathy for the Devil"

[rman]

24. Matt and Trey said lots of things

What is "this fear tactic" that you mention?

[snot]

40. This seems to imply they do have morals

and just try to act like they don't to scare us.

I'm not sure which is worse.

[McCamy Taylor]

71. It's not about morals. It is about ability. They are not that powerful

or smart or secretive. They could not even smear Joe Wilson without getting caught.

[budkin]

18. I thought those guys were big Bush supporters?

They are usually bashing liberals big time.

[rman]

22. Superficially it may seem that way

But they bash pretty much everyone, if the story calls for it.
I think it does indeed take a bit of analysis to figure out what they're trying to say.

[Beelzebud]

23. Did you ever see That's My Bush? They made that show...

I wouldn't call that show supportive of the president.

[ComerPerro]

25. They would have made a show about Gore, too.

Besides, they never really attacked Bush. Just made him look like a lovable idiot. That's how most Republicans describe Bush

[rinsd]

28. Hehehe the twist and turns the tin foilers goes thru

To pretend that show didn't absolute blast them.

And here we have a prime example of the ivestigative skills of this author

"When I went to www.911truth.org last night while the show was on it was slower than it had ever been. My educated guess is that this was due to MASSIVE traffic on the site, people watching South Park were running to their computers to check out this 911TRUTH.ORG."

Ya know he could have actually contacted the org to make sure of that before the assumption but I guess that wouldn't fit into the story.

[alittlelark]

39. Really? Why exactly do you think 'tin foilers' would give a

RATS ASS about the SP producers? They are extreme Libertarians. They are against everything most progressives are for. Their show is the worst of the worst of the human condition.

Don't get me wrong, I have enjoyed about 30% of their shows (Hubby and I even saw the movie in the theatre - we hid our heads as we left...DAMN that was BASE)... gutter humor.


Why would one want to respect or disrespect a gutter comedy?

[Swamp Rat]

32. My take:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2375622&mesg_id=2379473

[autorank]

37. I like your group and thank you, but to believe your thesis, we must

believe that the people who produce this piece of trash show were somehow told, do a hit piece.

I'm no admirer of these guys, but they are incorrigible. I remember their show on the priest sex
scandals. My God! I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was incendiary.

Now we're to believe that these guys are somehow helping by their ridicule which has embedded link images.

Sorry, I can't believe that. The story line they have is just the type of smug crap they usually (not
always) come up with. If anything, the artist who did the final drawings probably did it out of
disgust for the tenor of the show.

Don't kid your self. The South Park guys have become jaded nihilists.

[rman]

42. "told do a hit piece"?

The thesis is that some people have stories to tell that would not get past their editor unless it is hidden within a hit piece. So nobody needs to tell them to do a hit piece. Virtually every SP episode is a "hit" on someone or some group - at least superficially.

The ridicule that features in SP episodes is no more than a reflection of the kind of debate (on all kinds of topics) that takes place in society. In real life there are people who say you're a retard if you don't believe what the govt told you, and SP reflects that. In real life there also are people who say there were explosions at the base of the towers - and so SP reflects that to. In this case it is woven in a story line that reveals a mystery within a mystery within a mystery, with lots of disinfo and misdirection along the way - just as anyone who investigates 9/11 encounters.
I'm not kidding myself, SP only appears nihilistic if you look at it superficially.

[autorank]

68. Thanks for calling me superficial. You're quite a diplomat.

I was about to point out how much I liked the SP link provided on the web site.

They are nihilistic and I've looked at them on and off for a while, not superficially.

I think that the story was just their rude take on things without a real position, or much of one, and that the link reflects the heat they got after putting their ass hat version on. The link is excellent though and I'm glad I have it.

I don't understand why people come here, post and then say rude things about people who are essentially supporters, which was more than clear from my post.

[The Count]

43. So, this is what Eric Cartman writes when not eating &f arting?

Whenever in doubt, remember: That's my Bush was written with Rove's approval - and Rove himself was a character. Whatever you thought about THAT, it was the Forrest Gumping of W.
Then the stem cell thigy came, and Karl&karen decided to go with the "philosopher king" instead - so the series was scrapped.

[rman]

44. Do you think your immature arguments convince anyone?

[The Count]

45. Sorry I can't be as mature as South Park. It's the unattainable goal......

You want to worship those two guys as fountain of wisdom and courage? Be my guest. But then, at least abandon claims to maturity .

[rman]

46. I want to "worship", sure...

Such a typical kind of argument, so familiar...

To bad you can't be as mature as South Park.

[The Count]

70. How is my argument typical? Does it mean you heard it before?

You are holding up a silly cartoon from Bush supporters as a fountain of knowledge and dismissing the laughter?

[ComerPerro]

47. no kidding. Thats amazing, a South Park Sycophant attacks you

for being "immature".

Half of the episode being discussed involved one long joke about someone shitting in a urinal.

Are you immature, or are you such a brilliant satarist that they just blew their minds?



:eyes:

[Blue-Jay]

50. Who shit in your urinal?

[Subdivisions]

53. LOL! Mr. Mackey was pissed about the chocolate mud monkey

getting pinched off into the urinal. Funny as hell. M-kay?

[matthewf]

48. dunno

at least the site was promoted

[Marnieworld]

52. You may be on to something

I've seen the episode twice and at first it pissed me off by the second time it didn't seem as bad. The concept that it is somehow comforting to think your gov't is powerful enough to pull it off defies logic. As if the gov't's helplessness(alleged) that day provoked people to uncover a hidden evil threat to make themselves feel better? Yah, that sure makes me feel warm and squishy. :eyes:

However they did have info in it that clearly shows how familiar they are with popular questions, and the whole movement etc. Cartman mentioned that Jet fuel doesn't burn at a temp high enough to melt steel. I bet a lot of people were surprised by that. If that led them to 9-11truth.org, and apparently from the traffic increase it did, then even if it wasn't their intention (hit piece covering for actual expose) that was the result so that's just super.

9-11 aside, the many terms for shit and shitting in the episode show where their true genius is. Nobody does poopy like these guys!

[krkaufman]

54. Sorry, Parker and Stone were NOT trying to subtly boost 9/11 "truth"....

... from the perspective of the "9/11 Truth" movement.

The posters here remarking that Stone and Parker are "political idiots" and "jaded nihilists" are on-point, except that Stone and Parker are not equal-opportunity idiots. When they venture into political "critique", it is more often from a right-of-center viewpoint. (matching their reported "Libertarian" stance)

From my perspective, the South Park episode was characterizing the "9/11 Truth" movement -- and 911Truth.org, specifically -- as delusional. But also, as they often do, South Park's writers were lumping in all critics of the Bush Administration's pre-9/11 actions with its most extreme critics, thereby marginalizing all criticism of the Bush Administration. Stone and Parker propagandized that one quarter of the population is "nuts" by misleading their viewers that all those within the quarter of the population who feel they've been told less than the full truth regarding 9/11 believe exactly the same points of fact as those laid-out at 911truth.org.

One needn't be a cash- and/or editorial-contributing member of 911truth.org to know that the Bush Administration is hiding truths from us -- as evidenced most recently by Bob Woodward's new book, State of Denial, in which we learned of the priority nature of an emergency July 10, 2001 meeting between Tenet, Cofer Black and then-National Security Advisor, Condoleeza Rice, warning of the imminent threat of al Qaeda attacks. Woodward's passage helps to highlight what many know, that the '9/11 Commission Report' reflects a less than comprehensive investigation and analysis of all that could be known regarding the lead-up to the 9/11 attacks, or even what *was* learned by commission members.

All that being said, this "9/11 Truth" episode was one of the most humorless I've seen. Back in 2000, I was apoplectic, at the time, over the Presidential election controversy, but still found humor in the "Trapper Keeper" episode.

[nam78_two]

64. Agreed-this post pretty much sums up what I think

Its always easy to find some critics of the admin. who also believe that the illuminati, UFOs and reptoids control the planet or whatever.

It is such a cheap and easy shot to go after them and paint the entire 9/11 truth movement with that brush and then say that not believing everything in the msm makes you retarded. The 9/11 commission report has so many holes-heck there was stuff on it in all the serious forums on this site two weeks back, the Jersey girls have questions, Paul Thompson's cooperative research site has some good info.


Even looking at the money flow with regards to some notorious money-laundering and arms-trafficking scandals of the past (BCCI, Iran-Contra, Victor Bout's arms trafficking network) just raises a lot of questions.

Yes the actual questions are mostly boring and wouldn't make a colorful episode-they have to do with money laundering networks (researched by respected journalists like Rob Parry, Douglas Farah etc.), fake end user certificates, petro-dollars,blood diamonds and drug war-lords-not little green men or reptilians or Nazis.

If the South Park boys would actually read a book or two-no not by "crazies" but by a lot of very solid journalists who write for the WaPo and NYT in a few cases, they might realise that blind allegiance to the liege is not always the best option.

(That said I dislike colorful CTs myself...IMO these things are much more mundane than that-and mostly it comes down to money.)

[Frazzled Educator]

58. Three simple words: The show sucked

Matt and Trey have run their course. I used to love South Park. . .now it's just boring. When they brought Kenny back to life after Cartman ate his ashes, the show Jumped The Shark.

www.jumpedtheshark.com

[krkaufman]

60. Gotta give the SP writers props for being able to pull *this* off...

From the SP discussion forum on Comedy Central's website...

http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/south_park/message_board.jhtml?c=v&t=120&m=183&o=0&i=5

So, which side are Matt and Trey on? They captured the 911 truth movement and their message better than anyone else on mainstream tv has done to date, and then debunked it. ... I have two sons. One knows, as I do, that 911 was an inside job, and one thinks we are both nuts. Both sons think this morning that South Park agreed with them.

Though this is a tad short of a statistically significant sampling.

[alcibiades_mystery]

62. The genius of the 9/11 episode is that every paranoid will read into it

what he or she wants, this being the essence of paranoia.

This piece merely provides one quirky paranoid reading. There are, no doubt, as many paranoid readings as there are paranoids. That's what made the show fucking hilarious. That the paranoids should then turn their attention to the "subtext" hidden behind the episode itself, that which requires (paranoid) analysis in the episode itself, just takes the fucking cake for me. Of course the 9/11 "truth" movement would then do their weirdo paranoid readings of the episode! It's all they know how to do, ever.

The comedic genius of that just struck me while reading Douglas' paranoid "analysis." :rofl: