How many of you have a plan if the Democrats lose?

[wake.up.america]

My whirlwind tour of the US goes out the window.

[MasonJar]

1. If we lose in 06 and 08, I am moving. That is for sure. I cannot

tolerate this way of life much longer.

[LSparkle]

4. I'm afraid if we lose this year, I'll have to move

because there probably WON'T be an election in '08. As long as Shrubya and his tinkle-on economics prevail, the American dream is dead for me (working stiff that I am) so it may be time for me to seek hope elsewhere.

[Eric J in MN]

41. Why would corporations prefer Bush to stay in power after...

...January 20, 2009, instead of a new corporate servant taking his place and the appearance of change?

[katinmn]

2. A very good question

I've thought about it a long time.

[McCamy Taylor]

3. We lose 2006 only through GOP election fraud--take it to the streets.

Ukraine and Mexico style streets protests and strikes are in order. Boycott red states. The works. I think this time the press will be covering the election fraud that the GOP perpetrates, because their bosses got screwed by Rove who did not make good on his six year old promise to give them media mergers ( Michael Powelll rubbed their face in it by revealing the day AFTER Congress signed W. up for a second term in 2005 that the administration never intended to keep its promise).

If W. and Cheney do something really bad, like try to declare martial law, the US military will step in to stop them. Right now the administration is suffering a severe lack of power.

[bdamomma]

5. right on take it to the streets is right.

[beltanefauve]

17. Not just the military

The People are armed. I never thought I'd be talking this way, but with the rise of Fascism in this country, I've actually considered gun ownership myself.

I find it ironic to see so many people who were around to see America save Europe from Fascism now defending the same (or are in denial of ) in our country today.

[demnan]

6. Ireland sounds nice

I wonder if they do much Cold Fusion development over there. But only if I can take the cats.

[sinkingfeeling]

7. Where I'm heading if '08 is stolen again.

[MrCoffee]

8. i'm stockpiling tar, feathers, pitchforks and torches.

oh yeah, duct tape too.

[maxsolomon]

9. barely matters

the real plan you need is what happens when you can't drive everywhere anymore.

[ChiciB1]

10. Posted This Several Times Before.....

Selling my house, my acreage and when my mother-in-law passes will be looking to Costa Rica!!

Have already made contacts with people who know realtors there but won't be able to run away until I divest! Mother-in-law has lived with us for over 7 years now and is 94 with Alzheimer's. We have given her the nick-name "Ever-Ready Battery" and before she went to La La Land she ALWAYS said she was going to live to be 100! Her place can't be sold until she passes either!!

We do have one other possibility if we can't sell our acreage very soon, use our IRA and buy land in Costa Rica and wait for the rest to sell. That could be risky though! But I don't think I can stand anymore of this INSANITY that America has turned into!!!! I want to ENJOY some life before I reach retirement age and am still able to walk and talk!

[Generic Other]

11. I PLAN to be depressed if that happens

but I won't ever give up. It's my country, and I am going to keep fighting to save it.

[SDDEM06]

23. Not to be too glib

but I am sure more than a few Jews/intellectuals/tradesmen felt the same way in Germany about 70 years ago. "It may be bad, but it'll never get *that* bad." Those brave souls wound up in ovens.

We lose in November and I am getting the hell out.

[leftofthedial]

12. I don't even want to think about it

Until 2008, I'm in the bunker.

[robinlynne]

13. you mean when.

[onenote]

20. wtf?

[robinlynne]

35. 2000, 2002, 2004. They count the votes.

[Hippo_Tron]

14. Wait for the GOP to implode even more and start working on '08

Remember if we lose this November, they still control the entire government. That means they have all of the responsibility and everything is on them. Sure, they can blame it on Clinton but that only works up to a point after 8 years. Even if they remain in power I can't imagine how they will make a recovery between now and '08.

Also, even if we don't get the majorities I think that our ability to fillibuster a lot of things in the senate will be restored because of new people like Bob Casey, Jon Tester, Sheldon Whitehouse, and Sherrod Brown (4 seats that Republicans are very much on track to lose right now).

[McCamy Taylor]

15. Help the press! Video camera phones can record fraud! Go out on

election day and film GOP workers intimidation Democratic voters, giving bogus advice, film police roadblocks, film the E-voting machine when you vote in case it switches the Dem vote to a GOP vote.

If you capture anything, send it to the press, the Democrats and put it on YouTube immediately for the whole world to see. Be sure to get the faces of the GOPers who are engaged in the illegal voter intimidation.

Also long lines at Dem polling places, delayed openings, lack of ballots, machines that wont work---record all that and put it on YouTube as well.

[beltanefauve]

45. Good idea!

As it is, as citizen journalists, we've had to take a lot of matters into our own hands since our media are a bunch of corporate lapdogs. Already, thanks to the Net, a lot of things that would otherwise get buried on page A-18 in the papers get splashed around all over cyberspace, thanks to us. WE need to make them accountable. WE need to take our country back!

As for me, I'm not going anywhere. I'm staying on to fight the good fight.

[EFerrari]

46. Meanwhile, USE YOUR STATE FORUM to think and talk

to your neighbors about the coming election. Find out who is in place to cover which district -- in case you need to send someone in to document voter suppression or their other dirty tricks.

I'm going to do that in the CA forum.

You guys in the NM, CO, PA,TN, GA, AZ, OH, NC, FL forums -- please think about doing this.

[beltanefauve]

48. See you over in the Cali forum

sfexpat2000!:hi:

[EFerrari]

51. All right!

:hi:

[cobalt1999]

16. it's like making plans for when I sprout wings...

not going to happen. I can't conceive that the republicans are not going to lose and lose big. Color me an optimist.


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[readmoreoften]

18. No matter what happens, there won't necessarily be a huge change.

There may be a change-- don't get me wrong. Somehow I doubt it, though. 33% of America is staunchly conservative, jingoistic, and pro-corporation at any expense. 20% of America would willing choose theocracy over democracy. We will not be in the clear until there is a major shift in consciousness-- and it hasn't happened.

But our problems are bigger than one midterm. If we win the midterms it could mean a few things:

(1) there was never any real voter fraud and the pendulum is really swinging. When it is safe, our elected Dems will fight to end the war, protect us from pernicious corporations, and safeguard gay rights and abortion.
(2) there was real voter fraud and the neocons-- who view Bush as expendible and/or know he will never really be indicted by the Conyers led justice committee-- are going to sit this one out in order to work behind the scenes to establish a longer rule come 2008.
(3) the PNAC is/has infiltrated the Democratic party. They will pull the strings to make sure the Democrats support war and expansion in the middle east and neoliberal economics abroad, while throwing a carrot to those who are moderate on social issues.


If we don't win, it could mean a few things:

1) there was never any real voter fraud and the pendulum is not swinging. The country really favors conservatives.
2) there was real voter fraud and the PNAC are still working to infiltrate the Democratic party for a 2008 changover.
3) there was real voter fraud and they are setting up a dictatorship, no need for a phoney "changeover."

[CrispyQ]

32. I think #2 in the first series of options is where we're at.

If there is election fraud, they need to throw one to the dems so then they can tell all of us to shut the fuck up about it.

[Selatius]

53. I had a hunch it would turn out that way as well

If a person shoots a barn, the person's bound to hit it at least once. If he misses all six shots, something is wrong. To avoid that appearance, let him hit one.

[Jackpine Radical]

19. Aw, come anyway.

PM some DUers in advance. We can pretty much guarantee you a tour of all the blue-state Kneipen, where you will meet lots of soused liberals.

[wake.up.america]

22. Das klingt gut, obwohl ich keinen Tropfen Alkohol trinke

[Jackpine Radical]

24. Auch trinke ich nicht...aber, nach 7 November, wer weiss?

[orleans]

50. oh yeah, sure. easy for *you* to say! n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

21. Life goes on.

Having lived through LBJ, Nixon, Drooling Reagan, BushI, and 6 years of El Boob-yo Supremo, I've developed a pretty tough skin and an irreparably cynical attitude about the antics of the bosses and their never ending quest for power.

Not that I wouldn't move to a civilized country if I could afford it.

[davidwparker]

25. listen for the rallying cry to work for Green empowerment for the 2010

cycle. I will cast my vote for the Dem in 2008 after that, I think the democratic wing of the democratic party needs to be under Green leadership.

As I've blogged before, if the Dems cannot win under these circumstances, then it it DEAD already. It's not our base or our working class values. It is our leaders.

[OlderAdultAdvocate]

26. Europe?

It seems the most vulnerable, older adults, the middle-class and lower class people will consider Canada or Europe?

[newyawker99]

38. Hi OlderAdultAdvocate!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[WilliamPitt]

27. Yup

[ktowntennesseedem]

28. This Tennesseean will probably move to Canada.

All that remains to be determined is whether I'll have to move all the way to what is currently knows as Canada, or just as far as a blue-state that has newly become one of Canada's newest southern provinces.

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[tinfoilinfor2005]

29. Hang out my Conch Republic flag, and henceforth refer to myself

first and foremost as a Keys Conch. We did secede from the USA once, and many here never actually accepted reassignment, since our demands weren't fully met. I guess drowning my sorrows in Margaritaville for eternity ain't the worst thing that could happen. Except for the hangovers. :hangover:

[johnnie]

30. No plan

I will just have to deal with it like I have for the last 25 years and try to fight another day. Yes, right now this all sucks, but you can't give up. There are still little ones that need their future looked out for, they deserve it.

I have no problem with people leaving the Country, but I won't do it.

[warrens]

31. Work even harder in 08

I don't see a lot of options, except perhaps lawsuits.

[shadowknows69]

33. I aim to misbehave

Probably be disappeared by December. Remember me.

[Swamp Rat]

34. Become a republican

:D

http://www.thefrown.com/player.php?/frowners/becomerepublican

Seriously, I will become a republican and do my best to destroy the party AND the people from within.

... and I will be as vicious as a wolverine! :mad:

[shadowknows69]

36. Not a bad plan

Way'at Swamp!

[Swamp Rat]

37. Way'at shadowknows69!

:hi:

Here's one hot off the press!:



:D

[shadowknows69]

39. Very nice

n/t B-)

[kineneb]

40. hang in there

Can't afford to go anywhere & Hubby is too ill. On the other hand, there are only 5 (two lane) roads into the county... wouldn't be too difficult to block them off... or- why I like where I live.

Note to self- items to collect: ammo, canned food, spare batteries, vegetable seeds.

[derby378]

42. Sorry, man, but we're going for broke here

If we lose, I'm buying a decent gun and making preparations in case I need to head for the hills because the neo-con jackboots are coming to drag us to Gitmo...

[a kennedy]

43. I quit smoking 529 days ago......

and by gawd if the dems don't pick up at least the house or the senate, at least one of the houses, I WILL START SMOKING AGAIN. I'M NOT KIDDING, and I know that's just stupid, but d*mn it...... I want a smoke, and if I have to wait until November 7th, I will. and really, I'm not going to smoke again. Just had a terrible urge right now and saw this thread. :blush:

[EFerrari]

47. It's all right. Sitting them out can work.

:)

[Solo_in_MD]

44. Work the plan I am on

Which started in the Clinton Administration (in no particular order)
- Make as much money as I an in a low job security/high paying job while my wife has a secure job with great benefits to fund education of my children and put away for retirement
- Keep healthy through smart eating and exercise
- Get my children ready for the real world
- Fund their college, at least through a BS degree
- Learn and practice smart investing. No crap shoots, just slow steady growth
- Plan for and adopt a low footprint/low cost lifestyle in the future
- Return to teaching to finish out my work career.
- Make positive contributions to my local area and throught that the world
- Run for local municiple office as a way of giving back

Everyday I try to do something towards one or all of those goals. Some days are better than others in that regards. Sometimes there is lots of progress in a short time, other times, it seems stagnant. I won't go to Canada or Europe. Been there, and its not really any better, and in some ways worse (at least for me). Besides I am allergic to snow. I want to stay on the west coast with the newer infrastructure and better overall quality of life.

[brettdale]

49. I Guess plans

Would depend on how fair the election was?

[upi402]

52. i used to rant about the corporate media, and was called negative

when in fact i was trying to avoid the negative effects of rightist propaganda. a positive action.

now i'm worried that the Dems are actually Rethugs in sheeps clothing.

it's all i can do to stay-put as it is. i don't know what i'd do if they steal another election and Americans don't bother to see the reality we're in.

[Selatius]

54. My plan remains largely the same if they win or lose.

My plan is only terribly affected if Bush bombs Iran. If he bombs Iran, there goes the economy, and there goes a platform I need to build my life and get my house in order.

[Raine]

55. Bitch and complain

the same thing I've been doing for the last 6 years. :banghead: :(