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Fri Oct-13-06 05:00 PM
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Ed Schultz declaring AAR filed bankruptcy today |
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and having a big Love Fest for himself.
I have no other choices during the day but his lame-ass puffery, so I usually catch about 5-10 minutes of his rants before I come to work. Today he was being extra nauseating and announced how AAR filed banktrputcy, yada yada yada and he was in no way associated with AAR. This guy thinks he is the crowned prince, one and only, number 1 "progressive" talk show host in America. blaaaahhhhhhkk
I haven't seen anything else or listened to any of the other AAR hosts yet today. Maybe someone else has?
Can't wait to hear Mike Malloy's version of what is going on with the suits at AAR. We know that several of the RW radio talking faces had a meeting with GWB.
Mike will be on the air filling in for Jerry Springer next week. I can hardly wait!!!
"Let's Landslide" :bounce:
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Fri Oct-13-06 05:02 PM
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1. Ed and Stephine Miller are Jones Radio Network |
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so they are not effected. The number of stations they have been on fluctuate as much as AA's as they split time between the networks.
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Fri Oct-13-06 05:06 PM
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Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 05:09 PM by Mojambo
Our AA affiliate here in Seattle runs him right in the middle of the day. Luckily I'm at work and able to stream Hartmann's show on White Rose Society.
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Fri Oct-13-06 05:11 PM
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3. Schultz isn't Maloy, or Franken or Rhoads...but that's the point. He's an |
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important voice. You don't have to agree with everything he says. I know a lot of people who won't listen to anyone an AAR but Schultz. He brings people over to our side.
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Fri Oct-13-06 05:18 PM
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7. Aside from ideological differences |
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Which I glady can put aside (I do with Franken) I just can't stand his broadcasting style.
He's a blustering, self-promoting jackass. And he really doesn't have a particularly strong command of the facts on a good many issues.
I'm fine with him being the introductory voice in progressive radio for all of those confused ex-Republicans, but I'd be quite dismayed to see Ed Schultz become THE face of progressive radio in this country.
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Fri Oct-13-06 05:33 PM
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10. the funny thing about schultz |
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Is that when I turn on my car and Stephanie Miller was on in the morning, if it is that time of the day for the Schultz show I always think "WTF is Rush Limbaugh doing on so late?" and I have to check my station...cause if you aren't paying attention rush and ed have a very similar voice!
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Fri Oct-13-06 09:23 PM
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17. I've done the same thing. It's repulsive and then you see the beauty of it |
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I live in Wisconsin. Schultz, especially now while republicans are looking for an out, can bring many to the good side of the force.
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Sat Oct-14-06 12:54 AM
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25. I've noticed that, too. And for that reason alone, I can't stand to listen |
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Fri Oct-13-06 09:20 PM
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16. I wholeheartedly agree on all counts |
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Sat Oct-14-06 02:46 PM
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34. Being left of liberal on most issues, I find AAR hosts insufferable. |
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They think they are SOO "progressive" (liberal) just because they are pro-choice and anti-intrusion into affluent white people's lives. Ed is the only one I can tolerate for more than 5 minutes.
AAR fans (most of whom seem to have exceptional internet access unlike many people, streaming it from here there and everywhere) uniformly ignore the groundbreaking work of left journalists on Pacifica and similar outlets.
They are like a goose in a new workd, talking about how AAR is the be-all end-all. Give me Pacifica any day. At least that is community owned and operated!
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Fri Oct-13-06 05:13 PM
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4. CNN said AAR had filed for bankruptcy. It was on CNN's crawl. |
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Fri Oct-13-06 05:14 PM
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How many times can a company file for bankruptcy according to everyone except them????
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Fri Oct-13-06 05:35 PM
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11. It's for real this time... chapter 11... reorganization. |
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Fri Oct-13-06 05:18 PM
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I was expecting O'Really to gloat, but not one of our "friends." Gag.
None of the AAR hosts have addressed it today. (Randi's off.) I think they should. If I understand the way it goes, it's reorganization. They're not going out of business.
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Fri Oct-13-06 10:17 PM
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22. Rachel Maddow mentioned it. |
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And some guy called Jon Elliot tonight commenting about "Big Ed's" comments.
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Fri Oct-13-06 05:28 PM
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8. I listened to Ed today and I didn't find he was gloating |
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Yeah, he can a little full of himself - but there's nothing wrong with that in that business.
IMHO he wanted to explain cause too many radio listeners think he is with Air America because his show airs on many stations that carry Air America programming.
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Fri Oct-13-06 05:32 PM
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9. I don't listen to Schultz alot...but the "Recovering Limpballs" would do |
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well to listen to him.
I don't think that trashing Schultz equals with what's going on with AAR...
It's "Apples & Oranges." :shrug: Schultz does what he does very well and so does AAR. BTW...AAR is only in Chapter 11...so they will REMAIN "On Air" for awhile. :shrug:
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Fri Oct-13-06 05:39 PM
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12. my problem is how he does it, not that he does it |
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and that's the beauty of DU, one can mix apples and oranges because it's just our humble opinions after all.
I don't think anyone knows for sure what AAR is going to do. I hope they do stay on for a while. We need them.
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Fri Oct-13-06 05:44 PM
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13. They deserve it for firing Marc Maron. And I'm addicted to AAR. |
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Randi: Hold on, doll. The whole world needs you now.
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Fri Oct-13-06 09:25 PM
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18. No Doubt. What did Maron do? He was too damn funny to fire unless he |
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did something really shameless...which is possible I guess.
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Sat Oct-14-06 07:45 AM
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30. He was too real. Too honest. Too unguarded. Too funny. |
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He makes people who hide from themselves uncomfortable.
He tells the unvarnished truth.
They deserve to go under, all but Randi and Sam. Ok, Rachel's smart, but Marc was hysterical.
I get Armstrong Williams in the morning. I hope that loser is out of radio for good. He's a black bigot. I really get frustrated with people who hate their own group.
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Sat Oct-14-06 06:32 PM
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Fri Oct-13-06 05:58 PM
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14. It was on CNN earlier. |
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Blitzer was simpering and smirking maliciously.
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Fri Oct-13-06 06:29 PM
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15. lots of hits in Google News n/t |
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Fri Oct-13-06 09:25 PM
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19. Marc Maron announced it during his weekly |
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appearance on Sam Seder's show. Sam didn't know it, he said, because he was doing his show during the time the announcement came down. Sam didn't seem concerned, unless he was acting.
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Fri Oct-13-06 10:04 PM
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21. Sam Seder had a career in show business before AAR, |
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Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 10:04 PM by Eric J in MN
...and he will still if his gig at AAR ends.
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Fri Oct-13-06 10:01 PM
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20. Link to Ed Schultz today talking about AAR bankruptcy |
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...at the end of this segment from today's show. Nothing he said about AAR in this segment is offensive to me: http://audio.wegoted.com/podcasting/101306ShowOpen.mp3
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Fri Oct-13-06 10:21 PM
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23. Why I Don't Listen To AAR |
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Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 10:23 PM by USA_1
While the AAR host discussions are generally good thereby showing that they are very well informed, the one BIG problem I have with them is that they allow too much air time to reich wing callers. When a lib or moderate attacks Bush or the Republicans, the hosts give them very little air time and hang up on them before they get a chance to make a point. Meantime, when a reich winger calls he or she is given 10 to 15 minutes or even more time to say the same shit that reich wing radio hosts say every day.
I have written to each of the AAR hosts and told them of how troubling this is to me and to other listeners. I have also said that when it happens, I turn off AAR and refuse to listen to those shows because, if anything, I am hearing the same shit that we hear on reich wing hate radio every day. Despite these warnings AAR refuses to change. It seems to me that AAR is more intent on allowing more reich wing shit to be spoken than anything else. That's why I will not listen to it and why its radio listenership is so low.
If AAR leaves the airwaves completely, I won't miss it. It's time to have REAL progressive radio programming and to let the truth to be spoken without impediment.
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Sat Oct-14-06 01:03 AM
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26. To be honest, it's probably more important that AAR reaches |
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right-wingers than libs. RR's might stay tuned and be convinced if they hear their own being convinced of the truth (i.e. liberal standpoint.)
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Sat Oct-14-06 08:22 AM
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31. What are you talking about? |
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Right-wing callers on for 10 to 15 minutes on AAR? You must be smoking some good stuff. First off the morning show, previous and now, hardly ever took calls. Jerry Springer on 9-12noon sometimes would have a right-winger on, but never for more then a few minutes. They don't take any caller more then a fifteen minutes.
Franken doesn't really take calls, Randi takes a few and a right-winger might get 10 seconds before she explodes on her show. Seder? No way. Malloy? Never.
Besides, I did 5 years of talk radio. I loved having people call me who disagree with me. Hearing people say the same damn thing over and over again is BORING radio. I love when Randi gets that right-wing nut caller. That's when I turn the radio up. Debate is good and fun.
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Sat Oct-14-06 09:38 AM
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32. Too Much time For Reichwingers |
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Maybe they don't give as much time to reichwingers any more. But the last couple of times when I tuned in, they did give more time to them than to America's real patriots. And that's why I and others turn off AAR.
At any rate, AAR is now in financial trouble. And all that explains why. I won't miss it one bit. Yes, I want to have progressive radio on the airwaves. But I want to listen to what real patriots have to say. We have had enough reichwing Hitlerian shit on the air for years and we do not need anymore. Unless and until AAR or some other sources stops giving the reichwing viewpoint (as if they don't have enough time already with Flush Limpballs or some other such shit) so much time and starts to give time to real Americans, the audience will remain as low as it is and less.
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Sat Oct-14-06 10:19 AM
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Their moeny problems have nothing to do with their ratings. Their maoney troubles have been present since they went on the air. They tried to buy airtime on radio station in large markets which cost millions of dollars. Most synidcated radio either charges for their programs or they barter. You have to run a number of their commercials and they will give you the program for free. AAR has always been in financial trouble.
Their ratings are low in some markets not in others. Most of the stations they are on have done better in the ratings then whatever format they replaced. The format and audience as a whole have grown since March 2004. Other shows like Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller have competed with or complimented AAR. Both of those shows are profitable.
AAR troubles have nothing to do with their callers. I appreciate your opinions about the programming and if you are looking for shows with few callers then listen to Randi Rhodes. She takes very few calls.
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Sat Oct-14-06 10:51 PM
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37. Calls are not the problem |
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... what is the problem is the incessant amount of reich wing callers and the amount of time allowed to them.
When Wendy Wilde was on in AAR in this area (I understand she was not available in all markets) she steadfastly REFUSED to give time to reich wing traitors. Her rationale was the same as mine: they already have enough time on other outlets. Let's keep AAR for patriotic American loving progressives and independents only.
I guarantee that if all AAR hosts took this approach the ratings would go much higher and its financial problems would cease at once.
And for the record, I hope those $$$ problems will end soon.
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Fri Oct-13-06 10:34 PM
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24. There has been something Seriously Wrong |
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with AAR's finance structure from the beginning. Remember all those stories?
AAR's financial structure has had all the appearances of a :tinfoilhat:
Remember, Limbaugh's program was offered for FREE for a long time. Who was financing that?
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Sat Oct-14-06 01:04 AM
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27. Well of course he's happy. |
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He's a repig. Practically rolling in s**t right now like a good little piggy would.
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Sat Oct-14-06 01:23 AM
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28. Ed's a Repug, but brings the Joe Sixpacks over |
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to the light.
A sad day. This is a result of liberal Americans going for amusement instead.
And an unorganized means of buying from sponsors. I've tried and been unable to use several AAR sponsors; no website, unable to re-fi in 2 months but a righty later did in 2 weeks, etc.
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Sat Oct-14-06 04:05 AM
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29. He made a similar announcement a month ago |
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Edited on Sat Oct-14-06 04:09 AM by Fighting Irish
During that ThinkProgress bankruptcy announcement.
Many people think Ed is on AAR because he's aired on many affiliates. Therefore, his listeners think he's going away. Thom Hartmann made a similar on-air statement a month ago, claiming that he owns his show and AAR just syndicates it.
Eddie and the AAR hosts seem to have a friendly rivalry, but I've heard him stick up for AAR a few times. After all, without AAR, no way he'd have the station clearances he has.
Ed's not a bad host. Having worked in radio, I tend to listen a bit differently than most people. He's been at it for awhile and I think he's really good with handling callers, covering a wide variety of topics, and breaking things up once in a while (talking about football or fishing). As much as I like Randi, she has a rather annoying habit of clinging on to one topic and ramming it into the ground for the entire show. Ed avoids this.
I also admire the fact that he doesn't pre-screen his callers. Hardly anyone does this anymore (though I suspect Lionel doesn't either). Now THAT takes balls! Hell, he even allowed a listener to bring up Laura's fatal DWI from years back, in response to an anti-Ted Kennedy freeper call. Schultz even agreed with her!
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Sat Oct-14-06 02:51 PM
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35. Gore needs to buy some radio outlets and turn AAR into version of Pacifica |
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Commercial, but independent, not dependent on Clear Channel and their Advertising Bundlers, who wield considerable influence like investors.
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