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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:10 PM
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W. hasn't signed.......
......the Torture Bill yet, to my knowledge.....I thought he had only 10 days to either sign it or veto it.....after the ten days are up isn't it automatically law? Am I missing something?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:11 PM
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1. He was in such a hurry to get it passed to protect us from terraists
then he went off campaigning.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:12 PM
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2. he didn't get the bill until the 10th.
So he has until the 20th.

I suspect there's an effort to put it off until after the election, somehow.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:14 PM
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8. 21st. Sundays don't count n/t
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:12 PM
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3. He doesn't really want his name on that thing.
History can then see it as the work of the Congress--freaking fools that they are.
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:16 PM
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11. I was thinking that, too......
.....maybe W.'s disgusting way of getting what he wants while not taking responsibility for his part in it....what else is new?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:13 PM
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4. check out pocket veto
Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 06:14 PM by Gabi Hayes
all depends on when the bill was passed
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:14 PM
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7. It wouldn't make sense tho.....
.he was so hot and heavy about ramming this thing thru...why nix it with the pocket veto?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:15 PM
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10. that's the way the law works....I don't know when the bill was
passed by both houses; that's the nub

Looks like others have already discussed that part
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:13 PM
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5. He doesn't have to sign it
If he doesn't sign it within 10 days and Congress is in session, it becomes law. If Congress isn't in session, it doesn't become law. That's called a pocket veto. Case law, to my knowledge, is divided on the subject of whether a seasonal adjournment like what Congress is currently on counts.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:13 PM
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6. His signing statement is probably so complicated that it hasn't
been completed yet. I can hardly wait how he reacts to this bill that was just about what he and Cheney wanted. No doubt, Bush* will take away everyone's civil rights with this signing statement.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:14 PM
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9. He has 30 days on this one - he hasn't signed it because
he is waiting til right before the election, so they can make a big show about it.

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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:17 PM
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13. He has 30 days?
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:22 PM
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16. That's what Sam Seder was saying this morning
:)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:16 PM
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12. He's still composing his signing statement. n/t
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bcoylepa Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:19 PM
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14. October 17
I heard that 10/17 is the day scheduled for the signing - - this from a friend who is a lawyer for several detainees. The laywers are all hustling to file briefs before this becomes law
shame on all of us
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 06:21 PM
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15. Even Shithead knows that if he signs that thing, there is no going back.
No going back as in very, very bad for we American citizens. :(

THAT is how big of a change to 100s of years of the 'law of the land' being the rule and not the exception. Now it will be that the law is interpreted (and executed) by the WRONG branch. Only one branch would rule over two other lame-duck branches.

Signing the bill would make him a dictator on paper and by law. Unless the SCOTUS steps in and stops this madness. Which I know they won't.
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