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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 06:07 AM
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Regarding Valerie Plame Wilson - another angle?
Edited on Sat Oct-14-06 06:50 AM by Tennessee Gal
FACT: According to "Hubris," the Corn/Isikoff book, Valerie Plame Wilson worked for the CIA Counterproliferation Division of the Directorate of Operations, which was working to obtain intelligence on WMD programs post 9/11/01. She was the chief of operations for the CIA's Joint Task Force on Iraq. In that capacity she remained a NOC and traveled overseas under assumed names to monitor operations.

This information is supported by the request by the CIA for the Justice Department with John Ashcroft as the Attorney General to investigate this matter. John Ashcroft proceeded to recuse himself (perhaps because he understood the predicament the Bush administration had put him in by lying to the American people about Iraq) and turn the matter over to a special prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald.

Let's try a little logic here. If what "Hubris" reported about Valerie Plame Wilson's status at the CIA is not true, why would the CIA request an investigation regarding her outing? AND if it were not true, why would the Department of Justice continue the investigation, rather than dismiss it?

Secondly, is there another reason for the Plame outing? Was it about Joe Wilson's article or could it have been about what Valerie Plame Wilson was working on for the CIA? If the Bush administration was so convinced that Iraq possessed or even desired programs for WMDs, why wouldn't they want Valerie Plame Wilson and the division of the CIA she worked with to continue on their mission of proving that Iraq/Saddam was hell bent on supporting terrorists through hiding, manufacturing, and/or developing WMDs?

It seems to me that if they were lying to the American people, the Congress, and the world, that is one more reason to put a stop to her work. She might have been on the path to proving they were lying about Iraq's WMDs and connections to Al Qaeda.

Is there something about this that has been overlooked?

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 06:20 AM
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1. Yes.
The book is correct in reporting her position. When the first grand jury started its investigation, the first witness was a ranking official from the Agency who verified her status.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 06:22 AM
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2. Right Bush and Cheney knew there was no REAL threat from Iraq
but that did stand in their way of attacking Iraq. Any naysayers were run over.....
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 06:29 AM
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3. So, is there some validity
to the possibility that Plame was outed because she could prove that the Bush administration had lied about Iraq?
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 06:42 AM
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4. IMHO yes...
They were not going to let anything stand in their way and Wilson was a bigger threat to them because of her and her knowledge.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 07:14 AM
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5. I'm beginning to think
there is a whole lot more than that.I think she may have been getting close to proving cheneys involvment in some really nasty shit concerning pakistans nuclear program.
I am also starting to wonder if Sibol Edmonds is involved.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 07:36 AM
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6. How so?
How is Sibel Edmonds involved in the Plame outing?
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 07:41 AM
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7. IMO She was seeing some of the same type of intelligance
that plame was seeing.Just from another angle.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 08:22 AM
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12. There was an excellent post on this subject last year, here.
Search on the term "American Judas". You are correct, Cheney and Rumsfield were selling dual use technology to Ali Khan/Pakistan in the 90's while in the private sector. Pakistan has exported their bomb making technology to other rogue states, like North Korea. I'm convinced that Valerie Plame was the primary target of Cheney. I've always thought it was quite strange that Cheney would save his notes on attacking Amb. Wilson, unless he was creating a cover story to mask his true intentions.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:26 AM
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15. Dick Cheney - American Judas



Dick Cheney exposed Valerie Plame to cover up his association with A.Q. Khan's Nuclear Walmart. Read about it here: http://s93118771.onlinehome.us/DU/AMERICANJUDAS.pdf
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 07:53 AM
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8. Brewster-Jennnings is the key. Did they need to shut it down?.
Edited on Sat Oct-14-06 07:54 AM by higher class
Was shutting down their work the first agenda.
The Embassy in Niger had already investigated the claims that Hussein had tried to buy from Niger and they found no proof. Then Wilson was sent after that. Cheney made what everyone calls unusual, repeated calls on the CIA to press them into finding wmd? or pressing them to find out what they knew about his involvment in wmd - with or without Khan?

This is ;probably all about Brewster-Jennings and the Wilson happened to ber player - starting out innocently, but deeply upset after SOTU and Cheney in his wily way knew or was told how he could attempt to get the Wilsons discredited.

Or more.

The big question is - we know Cheney is the president as far as planning - was he trying to protect himself from being discovered or was he simply searching for any proof of what they needed to proceed in bombing the hell out of Iraq?
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:22 AM
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14. Which is why Novakula had to write a second article.
The first one in which he outed Valerie wasn't effective or provided cover for the second in which he outd Brewster Jennings.

-Hoot
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 07:57 AM
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9. Some of us mentioned this "angle"---that the entire deal was to put
the kibosh on VP and her work---ages ago.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 08:16 AM
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10. Correct.
Among the infamous Plame Threads, there was a 7-04 essay called The Waterman Paper, which summed up months of discussion about this very topic.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 08:21 AM
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11. Do you have a link?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 08:38 AM
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13. Here is a link to both The Waterman Paper and American
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