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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 08:54 AM
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Bob Woodward Interviews John Kerry
A CONVERSATION WITH JOHN KERRY INTERVIEW BY BOB WOODWARD

Sunday, October 15, 2006; Page B04

In the months before the 2004 presidential election, The Washington Post's Bob Woodward sought to interview Sen. John F. Kerry, the Democratic nominee, about how he might have conducted foreign policy in the 18 months between Sept. 11, 2001, and the invasion of Iraq in March 2003. For his book "Plan of Attack," Woodward had interviewed President Bush on how and why he made decisions during that same period. Woodward gave the Kerry campaign a list of 22 questions based on Bush's actions, asking how Kerry would have responded at each key decision point if he had been president. Kerry declined the interview at the time. More than a year later, on March 7, Kerry agreed to be interviewed by Woodward and answer the 22 questions. This is an edited version of their two-hour conversation. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/13/AR2006101301393_pf.html)

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John Kerry: Let me start at the beginning, because if I were president and we had been attacked as we were attacked on 9/11, I would have, first of all, created a kind of war cabinet similar to what other presidents have done historically, going back to Roosevelt and others. . . .

Now, you may have an executive committee within that . . . like President Kennedy did. But your war cabinet itself needs to be especially plugged in . . . so the right questions are on the table and the right questions are asked and the right discussion takes place. I mean, if you go back and look at Eisenhower, Eisenhower is smart in that he played less than fully briefed, so to speak, and he would let the staff fight it out in front of him and not let on what he believed or where he wanted to go. I think it's particularly important presidentially not to indicate your policy right up front unless there's such a clarity to it. For instance, in response to 9/11, there's clarity. We've got to go kill al-Qaeda. . . . In fact, I would have thought about starting that war differently.

Bob Woodward: In what way?

I believe that during that particular period of time you knew that they had bad habits. They didn't believe that we would necessarily invade. . . . That is an enormous advantage with which to begin any planning. So they are running around in caravans, which we can see from technical means. They're talking on cellphones, which we can follow with technical means. It gave us time to put assets on the ground.

There are all kinds of things that we could have done with respect to pinpointing their whereabouts.

This is after 9/11?

Absolutely. And my instincts would have been much more inclined to have used feint as subterfuge to indicate you might be doing one thing when you're really doing another. . . . I would have been inclined to have used a greater covert effort to put the pressure on Osama bin Laden, at which point I would have been prepared to move major track divisions into position, whether it's the 101st, the 10th Mountain Division, 82nd Airborne, etc.

. . . Now, I know we had SEALs at Tora Bora. And they wanted to go. I mean, who wouldn't have wanted to go get Osama bin Laden?


more . . . http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/13/AR2006101301393_pf.html


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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:03 AM
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1. Kick! Thanks for this. nt
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:05 AM
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2. There can be no doubt John Kerry is one of the best strategic thinkers
of our time.

I love to listen and learn from him almost as much as I loved listening to Bill Clinton.

:hi:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:30 AM
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7. I recall a story from a few years back of an ex-Clinton aide who said that
Edited on Sat Oct-14-06 11:05 AM by blm
he wanted to work with Kerry after leaving the WH, because during the years working in the WH and being privvy to strategy sessions involving specific world problems, he said Kerry woould always be the most comprehensive voice in the room.

I expected that when I read Clinton's book he would have discussed that aspect more in greater detail, but it turned out that he barely acknowledged how those sessions helped direct their decisions.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:39 AM
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3. Thanks, for posting
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:51 AM
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4. Thanks for this
The country is missing out on a great leader not only for us but the world.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:59 AM
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5. I don't wish to hate but....
When I read something like this, a man with real acumen and knowledge, and how he was treated by GOP and how this Cabal has tried to run roughshod over the entire world and tarnished the Image of the USA so severely I can not but feel hatred for what they have done..not so much the people involved but their actions definitely....and that alone sickens me..
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:43 AM
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9. probably what disappoints me most with repugs was trashing vet
kerry and what they did to him as a military intelligence and ability...... for the every day joe to have bought into the swift boat disgusts me along the line of the right christians challenging my morality. 2004 i would tell the people a vote for bush was turning back on soldiers because of kerry's ability and strength, i feel, in military

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StoryTeller Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:01 AM
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6. I really encourage people to read the whole article
It's FABULOUS! I learned a lot about how things *should* have been just by reading it.

In a few places, it's a little difficult to figure out where Woodward is asking the question and where Kerry's reply starts. I wish they'd have put the questions in bold or something.

But Kerry's answers are amazing. I find my respect for him continuing to grow the more I read and learn about him.

Tremendous leader.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:48 AM
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10. That is why it was important for GOP and their corpmedia to make sure
people didn't have the TIME to get to know Kerry more.

Compare the 9 hours of convention coverage all the networks gave Clinton in 92 to introduce himself better to the American people and the THREE hrs of network coverage given to Kerry, and ONE of those hrs the networks gave to Clinton, the other hour going to Edwards. But the 6 hours they left out were the filmed biography and the speakers who could have told the people more about Kerry, his life, and his WORK.

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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:37 AM
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8. Such a contrast K&R
A sense of history. A clue (deliberate understatement) about what strategy is. An understanding of leadership organization. An ability to think militarily. Intelligence. Reason. Perspective. Sanity.


VS.



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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:45 AM
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13. God, what a glaring contrast
And perfectly captured by you. That pic cracks me up even as part of me dies on the inside.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:52 AM
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14. President of the United States, or Bill the Cat? You be the judge.
(Great pic) :hi:
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:30 PM
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15. Yeah, contrast.


And I still have people ask me if I really think Kerry would have made a better president. Gawd damn those idiots!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 07:10 AM
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17. a willingness to let the 'idea' be someone else's
The not needing to for him to look like he has all the answers but as a group we will figure it out. Yes John Kerry would have and maybe will be a great President
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:36 AM
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19. Biden actually once said that Kerry rarely took credit for many of the
bills he pushed through. He would let others take the credit and have naming rights, while he moved on to the next issue.

He's a solution-oriented person who enjoys the WORK over the glory.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:15 AM
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11. Nothing nuanced about Kerry's responses at all. Perfect clarity.
F*ck all those purple-bandaid freaks.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:49 AM
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18. I think the purple-bandaid brigade had their last parade at that point.
Edited on Sun Oct-15-06 08:50 AM by blm
People understand now that BushInc lies about everything and attacks ALL opposition with smears and have been using the corpmedia to do it.

After Katrina, most people are sick of lies - they want truth - give them the facts they need.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:40 AM
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12. he's wicked smart
and just what our nation needed in 2004--and still does need.

I didn't know how much he'd helped Clinton during those years. Could have been a great VP to Clinton (not saying Gore was bad), and then gone on to a two-term presidency himself.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 06:57 AM
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16. Sigh. Americans hate to elect smart people.
They prefer someone on their intellectual level.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 10:08 AM
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20. The media has TOLD them that, but, most people REJECT that now in the
postKtrina, post Iraq war world we live in. Most Americans want truth and competency.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 03:33 PM
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21. I hope you are right. One would think they have learned
the lesson that we need a competent leader.
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