A Christian Halloween

[chat_noir]

Visit Virtual Hell



http://www.just4kidsmagazine.com/hell/main.html


More on Christians "celebrating" Halloween: http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/10/10/15640/438

[crim son]

1. What scared me the most was the pop-up

invitation to request information about joining the U.S. Army! I'm still shivering in horror and revulsion.

[LiberalFighter]

29. I used info from White House

Last name and email domain I used bush. User name and First name I used kcuf reversed.

[alittlelark]

That was amazingly LAME... I thought it was a parody at first.

But, no, it was REAL... I could click a button to find out how to be saved!

[Monkeyman]

2. Took the tour at the End Army pop up

[Generic Other]

12. Was the Army pop-up part of heaven or hell?

I couldn't tell. :)

[Monkeyman]

13. As vet who use to say FTA I say hell

[Jackpine Radical]

21. I had FTA in big letters on my helmet cover.

Along with things like "The Entwives were Victims of Defoliation." Some stupid shavetail looey asked me what the FTA stood for. He was obviously gonna hassle me. I saluted and in my best military manner shouted out, "First Team Airmobile, Sir!"

[Generic Other]

25. I saw Country Joe McDonald do the Fish song at a FTA show

You should have heard the soldiers go nuts.

When I was a kid, I once went to a Bob Hope USO Show, but the FTA show was a lot cooler.

[jdadd]

33. Good One!

I've still got my zippo lighter with FTA engraved on the lid. I was in a Howitzer Battery... We said it stood for Fire That Artilery:patriot:

[Clark2008]

3. Um... do these idiots not know that Halloween IS a Christian holiday?

Much like Christmas, it began as a Pagan holiday, but was enveloped in Christian rituals, as well.

Somewhere around 800 A.D. the Christian church declared November 1st as All Saints' Day to honour all the Saints who did not have a special day of their own. On this occasion people made their old customs from Samhian and the Roman festivals part of the All Saints' Day rituals. The Catholic church also made November 2nd All Souls' Day to honour the dead.

The mass said on All Saints' Day was known as Allhallowmas. The evening before, October 31st became known as All Hallow Eve. Over time the name has been shortened to Halloween.

These people really need to understand their freakin' religions and get a fucking grip.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Heck, let's just celebrate Samhain. Give the fundies a REAL fright.

[kestrel91316]

7. Fundies consider Catholicism to be no better than Satanism.

So they do NOT consider All Saint's Day a "christian" holiday but rather a heretical one.

[Clark2008]

16. Fundies are pretty stupid, then, aren't they?

Catholicism is one of, if not the oldest, Christian religions.

:eyes:

[kestrel91316]

23. Actually the Eastern Orthodox - Syrian and Armenian and Greek

christian churches are the very oldest. Then Roman.

[Clark2008]

34. My point is still that it's one of the oldest.

Certainly much older than Baptist or Church of God - or any of those newer religions founded to let Henry XIII divorce. * wink *

[kestrel91316]

35. Actually, I don't think Martin Luther's Reformation had anything

to do with Henry VIII and his shenanigans. He may have taken his cue from them, that's all. So then he founded the Anglican Church which became the Episcopals in the US.

Lots of US churches descend directly from the German Reformation (Mennonite, Amish, Methodist, Lutheran of course, and thence the Baptists). The Pentecostals and RW whacko churches are of VERY recent origin.

[JVS]

37. BTW Luther posted his 95 theses on 10/31/1517

Thus making that day Reformation Day for Lutherans

[kestrel91316]

38. Hush! You'll make the fundies' heads explode.

[DIKB]

4. Ugh Sickening

I LOATHE christian propaganda. It's so obvious and easy to see through.

I'd like christians a lot more if they tried to actually BE like their christ rather than paying a lip service, while ignoring his teachings and instead focusing on the big 3:

Fear of Hell, Christ dying for them, and Hating people they disagree with.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

8. what you sed. NT

[bluestateguy]

6. The Right's War on Halloween continues

They want us all to go around saying Happy Autumn rather than Happy Halloween every year.

[FatDave]

28. The War on Halloween! I love it! (nt)

[rurallib]

9. Just once if they could find someone who has actually been there

to give a slide show. These made up trips to hell are just as valid as my description of a trip to the fifth planet from Alpha Centari. Like who would no if I was lying?
Same goes for heaven.
Had a disussion at my daughter's today about a 10 year old who still believes in Santa. I said this was just a warmup for the religion stories but less damaging.

[ulysses]

10. "Jennifer, the angel of the spirit of love"?

Is she, like, best friends with Megan, the angel of the spirit of suburban megachurches?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

17. They actually MADE UP an angel.

There is no "angel Jennifer" like, say, Michael or Gabriel. They just fucking made that one up. But I suppose there could just as well be the angel Tiffany, the guardian angel of malls, or the angel Madison, guardian of, I don't know, Wisconsin (who the hell names their kid after cities, anyhow? "Hi, my name is Albuquerque."), or the angel Brittney, the guardian of mediocre pop stars. Jeez. They come up with this gruesome vision of eternal damnation, and at the end you're saved by... the Angel Jennifer?

:rofl:

[LostinVA]

36. And Tiffany, the Angel of fallen televangelists

[petronius]

11. Jennifer? Who the hell is Jennifer?

Lame site, but that skull in the smoke graphic is pretty cool...

[progdonkey]

14. When you click on the link to "Heaven," you get this:

"Sorry, the page you requested cannot be found."

http://www.just4kidsmagazine.com/hell/rescue.html

No shit. :rofl:

[ulysses]

19. yeah, I liked that too.

Heaven is an error page. :D

[Berry Cool]

26. Did you ask Jesus to help you find it?

Maybe if you accepted him as your personal savior, the page would come up. :rofl:

[ulysses]

32. praying to tech support?

If Jesus was a database admin, would he use Oracle?

[ovidsen]

15. Shreik!! I'm scared now!!

Such scary graphics! Okay, so the busty brunette in the leather wasn't really scary. It filled my heart with lust, though! And those ominous warnings!

Harry Potter does not seem so exciting and innocent ANYMORE!

Hell is a place of choice!

Try THIS if you need a more fairer and balanceder(snicker!) perspective:

A Guided Tour of Hell, With an Appearance by Satan

According to Satan’s spokesman, a vermilion-faced guy in a black cape, irony is “so-o-o-o 20th century.” That would also appear to be (for the moment, anyway) the opinion of Les Freres Corbusier, the stunt-savvy young theater company that is sponsoring Satan’s stay in Brooklyn this month.
(snip)
But there is one significant interpolated scene that directly points the finger at those who have come to scoff. The setting is the eighth stop on the demon-guided tour of rooms presenting hellbound sinners in action, which has already included men who marry men and a girl who goes to a rave and is gang-raped. Unlike the earlier vignettes, which have involved a lot of screaming and simulated bloodshed, this one looks comfortingly, even tediously familiar.

Three young adults sit in a coffee bar, talking about staples of cultural satire like The Onion and Jon Stewart.

One of them proposes putting together a comedy project about fundamentalist religion, and they begin riffing on the possibilities of parodying Christian rock and portraying Jesus. The conversation is interrupted by a posse of devils, who carry these wise guys straight to hell.

http://theater2.nytimes.com/2006/10/14/theater/reviews/14hell.html?ref=theater

Be afraid!! Heehee!! Be very afraid!!

[chat_noir]

18. Play: "Hell House" - has anyone heard about this? a friend

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x239971

A Hell House, also commonly known as a judgment house, is a haunted house-style attraction typically run by fundamentalist Christian churches or parachurch groups. These attractions are meant to depict the divine judgements that await unrepentant sinners and the torments of the damned in Hell. They are typically operated in the days preceding Halloween.

The first hell house may have been created by Jerry Falwell in the late 1970s. Similar events began in several regions during that period. More recently, the concept has been promoted by Pastor Keenan Roberts, originally of Roswell, New Mexico, who started a well-known hell house there in 1992. Since that time, hell houses have become a regular fixture of the Halloween season. Pastor Roberts remains active in what he calls his hell house ministry by providing kits and directions to enable churches to perform their own attractions. He is now the senior pastor of Destiny Church Of The Assemblies Of God where Hell House is still performed each year in the month of October.

The exhibits at a hell house often have a remarkably political tone and tend to focus on sins that are also issues of concern to the religious right in the United States. Hell houses frequently feature exhibits that are meant to depict sin and its consequences. Common examples include abortion, homosexuality, suicide, use of alcoholic beverages and other recreational drugs, adultery and pre-marital sex, occultism, and Satanic ritual abuse.<1> Given the theology of the churches that sponsor them, hell houses typically emphasise the belief that anyone who does not accept Jesus as their personal saviour is damned to Hell. However, these politically controversial sins are usually singled out for special criticism in a typical hell house. Hell houses have been criticised for misleading potential patrons that they are a conventional Halloween attraction rather than an evangelical presentation. They are also often criticised within the Christian community as being too focused on the number of conversions rather than long lasting commitments to Christianity.

[ovidsen]

24. Check out Brooklyn's Hell House!

I posted a reference to this above, but in case you missed it...

A theater group in NYC is putting on an ever so slightly irreverent version of Hell House that (I'm guessing) Falwell and his ilk would NOT like! Here's the NYTimes review...

http://theater2.nytimes.com/2006/10/14/theater/reviews/14hell.html?ref=theater

:evilgrin: BOO!!:rofl:

edit: Check out the audio slide show at the link! FUNNY!

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

20. Looks like a website for Doom II...circa 1995.

I'm disappointed. I went through that first link, and they didn't mention Dungeons & Dragons once.
I feel robbed.

[Rocknrule]

40. I noticed one of the pictures was from a "Goosebumps" book

How pathetic...

[msongs]

22. scary is the 100 million + people murdered in the name of jesus

in the last 2000 years (give or take a few)

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

[SoCalDem]

27. Trick or treat

:)

[spacelady]

30. Pretty cool until Jennifer the "angel" showed up. n/t

[TlalocW]

31. JENNIFER THE ANGEL KICKS SATAN'S ASS! BFF!

Man, that's some good web design there. I'm kind of disappointed... I thought maybe it would be a virtual version of the fun-filled romp one takes when they go to a Hell House, where each room (page) would be dedicated to those destined for hell - homosexuals, abortionists, people who read Harry Potter, etc.

TlalocW

[Rocknrule]

39. Anyone remember that King of the Hill Halloween episode?

"Halleluja House" lol

[youthere]

41. If they REALLY wanted it to be realistic,

they'd photoshop Bush and Cheney's faces on the demons. :scared:

[Swamp Rat]

42. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Initech]

43. Bwahahahaha!!! Listening to heavy metal while viewing this site makes it

more fun! :evilgrin:

[demwing]

44. BWAHAHA! READ THIS, IF NOTHING ELSE!

Oh the irony of the final pages! You descend through the levels of hell, till you pray for Jesus's help:

http://www.just4kidsmagazine.com/hell/rescue.html

Then an angel (named Jennifer?) gives you a link to heaven (go ahead and go to heaven, ya know you want to!)

http://www.geocities.com/4hiskids/heaven.html

OUCH!