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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:37 PM
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I would have expected the Vatican to come out against the genocide in Iraq
But then again maybe not.

Don


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A5164-2005Mar3.html

Vatican Asks Rice to Help With Lawsuit

Friday, March 4, 2005; Page A22


A senior Vatican official asked Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to intervene in a sexual abuse lawsuit in Louisville that names the Vatican as a defendant, but she declined, a Roman Catholic newspaper reported yesterday.

The National Catholic Reporter, in a dispatch from Rome, said Cardinal Angelo Sodano, the Vatican's secretary of state, made the request during Rice's Feb. 8 visit to the Vatican. Quoting unnamed Vatican sources, the newspaper said Rice explained that under U.S. law, foreign states are required to assert claims of sovereign immunity themselves.

The suit pending in U.S. District Court in Louisville is one of many sexual abuse claims in recent years that have listed the Holy See among the defendants. Judges generally have dismissed such claims either on First Amendment grounds or because of the immunity that foreign governments enjoy from many kinds of lawsuits. But the Kentucky case is unusual because it is a class-action lawsuit and the Vatican is the sole defendant.
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:42 PM
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1. It's not genocide; it's collateral damage...
...doncha' know?

:hi:

Has the Vatican even said anything about Darfur?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:43 PM
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2. The Vatican was vocal in opposing the Iraq War and have also mentioned..
Sudan.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:46 PM
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3. Does the Pope have any pull at the Hague? n/t
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:46 PM
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4. New Pope Benedict XVI a Strong Critic of War
Google is your friend.

"There were not sufficient reasons to unleash a war against Iraq. To say nothing of the fact that, given the new weapons that make possible destructions that go beyond the combatant groups, today we should be asking ourselves if it is still licit to admit the very existence of a 'just war'."


http://www.cjd.org/paper/benedict.html

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=pope+against+iraq+war+benedict&btnG=Search&meta=
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:54 PM
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7. The "war" ended with Mission Accomplished
I am afraid we are involved with some darker scenario at this point in Iraq several years later.

To call what is happening in Iraq right now a "war" is trying to minimize things in my estimation.

Don
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:37 PM
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8. That may be, and I am no fan of religious institutions
but the vatican has been opposed to whatever it is we are doing in Iraq from the start. Give them the credit for that at least.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:50 PM
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5. If theCatholic Church had a moral backbone, they'd excommunicate
anyone who had aided and abetted the warcrimes of this administration. No wonder I am a practicing ex-Catholic...
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:52 PM
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6. Wonder if the Pope and staff will threaten GOP war mongerors
with no communion as he did those who spoke up for women's rights?

Still waiting for his condemnation of those states who dominate capital punishment, like Florida ran by a Catholic Bush.
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