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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:12 AM
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Escape To Paraguay? Rumors Of Bush Land Deal
At least two sources, including Upsidedownworld and Prensa Latina, report
rumors of a Bush family purchase of land in northern Paraguay.

Upsidedownworld writes, on October 11:

"The Governor of Alto Paraguay, Erasmo Rodrigues Acosta has admitted to
hearing that George Bush Sr. owns land in the Chaco region of Paraguay, in
Paso de Patria. Acosta says that rumor has it Bush owns near to 70 thousand
hectares (173,000 acres) as part of an ecological reserve and/or ranch.
However, the governor said he had no documents to prove the rumor."

Prensa Latina, writing on October 13, gives a similar story but names George
W. Bush rather than his father:

"An Argentine official regarded the intention of the George W. Bush family
to settle on the Acuifero Guarini (Paraguay) as surprising, besides being a
bad signal for the govt of the region...Luis D Elia, undersecretary for the
Social Habitat in the Argentine Federal Planning Ministry, issued a memo
partially reproduced by digital INFOBAE.com, in which he spoke of the
purchase by Bush of a 98,842 acre farm in northern Paraguay, between
Brazil and Bolivia."

http://www.politicalcortex.com/story/2006/10/14/11926/843

Gonna need some place to go after he's impeached ...


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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:13 AM
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1. do we have extradition treaties with paraguay?
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:18 AM
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6. Typical Nazis
Edited on Sun Oct-15-06 11:19 AM by billbuckhead
I bet this next generation of fascist refugees gets less of a pleasnat welcome.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:20 AM
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7. Lots of old Nazis fled to Paraguay
at the end of WWII. I'm sure that family will find it quite pleasant.

I'd advise the rest of South America to be prepared to deal with them. They will try to spread their fascist poison around and topple the leftist reform governments all over that continent.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:17 AM
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2. I doubt it's a place to escape to.
More likely inside knowledge of a rich resource on that land that they will make money off of in the future.

Families like the Bushes don't run off and hide. They make problems go away.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:20 AM
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8. See my post below - RevMoon and world's largest aquifer.
.
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:27 PM
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15. It's also where the best blow comes from
According to this article it's not just the water the
Moonies are interested in ..

http://www.rickross.com/reference/unif/unif240.html
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:17 AM
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3. I have heard there are feelers out on the McClellan County "ranch" nt
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:17 AM
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4. This Won't Save His Ass
Pinochet...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:17 AM
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5. RevMoon owns over a MILLION ACRES there. The world's largest aquifer
is near there, and Moon owns ALL the land above it.

This is where the future WATER WARS come into play. Whoever has the access there will survive and flourish.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:57 AM
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11. Great just great.
They will all literally squeeze us dry to try to maintain their lifestyles and ascendency over us all.

Have not said it for a while....I really really hate these people and I never really hate anyone. My exception is the BFEE.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:21 AM
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9. Where will they go when the revolution comes? I guess it's no secret..
anymore: the New Fascist State of Paraguay. So, all conversatives should be buying up land there, and economic libertarians too. Let them create their Greed is Good paradise there and prove to the world how perfect it all is.
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Vexatious Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:25 AM
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10. Must be some oil there
or just a Nazi hideout.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 12:00 PM
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12. It's all about the WATER - world's largest aquifer is there.
.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:00 PM
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19. minerals
Edited on Sun Oct-15-06 11:03 PM by roody
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 12:04 PM
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13. Ken Lay may already be there.
:eyes:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 12:40 PM
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14. The Cook Islands is the preferred destination....shhhhh.
America will soon be voting R's off the island !
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:42 PM
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16. Cheney built his new place in Virginia. They're real close, I guess.
There's one thing I like about Cheney: He hates 43.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:47 PM
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17. The US Military Descends on Paraguay

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060717/dangl



While hitchhiking across Paraguay a few years ago, I met welcoming farmers who let me camp in their backyards. I eventually arrived in Ciudad del Este, known for its black markets and loose borders. Now the city and farmers I met are caught in the crossfire of the US military's "war on terror."

On May 26, 2005, the Paraguayan Senate allowed US troops to train their Paraguayan counterparts until December 2006, when the Paraguayan Senate can vote to extend the troops' stay. The United States had threatened to cut off millions in aid to the country if Paraguay did not grant the troops entry. In July 2005 hundreds of US soldiers arrived with planes, weapons and ammunition. Washington's funding for counterterrorism efforts in Paraguay soon doubled, and protests against the military presence hit the streets.

Some activists, military analysts and politicians in the region believe the operations could be part of a plan to overthrow the left-leaning government of Evo Morales in neighboring Bolivia and take control of the area's vast gas and water reserves. Human rights reports from Paraguay suggest the US military presence is, at the very least, heightening tensions in the country.


Soy and Landless Farmers

Paraguay is the fourth-largest producer of soy in the world. As this industry has expanded, an estimated 90,000 poor families have been forced off their land. Campesinos have organized protests, road blockades and land occupations against displacement and have faced subsequent repression from military and paramilitary forces. According to Grupo de Reflexion Rural (GRR), an Argentina-based organization that documents violence against farmers, on June 24, 2005, in Tekojoja, Paraguay, hired policemen and soy producers kicked 270 people off their land, burned down fifty-four homes, arrested 130 people and killed two.

The most recent case of this violence is the death of Serapio Villasboa Cabrera, a member of the Paraguayan Campesino Movement, whose body was found full of knife wounds May 8. Cabrera was the brother of Petrona Villasboa, who was spearheading an investigation into the death of her son, who died from exposure to toxic chemicals used by transgenic soy producers. According to Servicio, Paz y Justicia (Serpaj), an international human rights group that has a chapter in Paraguay, one method used to force farmers off their land is to spray toxic pesticides around communities until sickness forces residents to leave.
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 10:48 PM
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18. Ciudad del Este
Edited on Sun Oct-15-06 10:54 PM by slaveplanet
“ . . . Latin America. Once an obligatory way-station for war criminals and other fleeing Nazis, the region known as ‘the three borders’ (Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay) is considered by anti-terrorist experts to be a new base of radical Islamism. Often, intelligence agencies have traced the leaders of Hezbollah, Hamas and the international organization of the Muslim Brothers to this area. Forming a triangle between the towns of Puerto Iguazu (Argentina); Foz do Iguacu (Brazil) and Ciudad del Este (Paraguay), the area holds a population of more than 400,000, a quarter of them foreigners, with strong Near Eastern communities, especially Lebanese. At the center, the site of the marvelous waterfalls of Iguacu hosts more than 40,000 visitors a year, which makes the identification and the monitoring of people particularly difficult. In addition, the topography, crisscrossed by innumerable rivers and streams, makes it impossible to get an overall view. This tormented physical and human geography encourages all sorts of traffic. Ciudad del Este has thus become the Latin-American capital for counterfeiting and for the smuggling of weapons and explosives. Weapons come from the United States via Paraguay, and are mainly destined for the markets of Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo; they follow the route to Foz do Iguacu and cross the border of Paraguay at Mato Grosso do Sul. Small landing strips in the region are also used for delivering cargoes, and drugs.”...(Dollars for Terror: The United States and Islam; by Richard Labeviere; Copyright 2000; Algora Press ; ISBN 1-822941-06-6; p. 334.)

More on the the triple border region:

Exposing a truly terrifying political reality, this program details the development of the Triple Border area of Latin America as an operational epicenter for terrorist groups. In addition to Islamist groups such as Al Qaeda and Hezbollah, the region has become a base for neo-Nazi operatives, as well as groups from European countries. The area is formed by the junction of Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay and the proximity of these three enormously corrupt countries has made the region a hotbed of criminal activity of all kinds. Among the most alarming aspects of this investigation is the apparent operational liaison between Al Qaeda and neo-Nazi elements. This broadcast presents frightening allegations concerning the participation of a former Green Beret and member of the Aryan Nations in the 9/11 attacks. In addition, the discussion highlights allegations of two prior warnings of the 9/11 attacks. Both warnings allegedly originated from the Triple Border area and both were apparently ignored.

Program Highlights Include: The role of weapons dealer Monzer Al-Kassar in the Condor missile project being developed by Argentina; Al-Kassar’s role in the bombing of the Israeli Embassy in Argentina in 1992; the Triple Border’s significance in the planning of both of the above attacks; allegations that a joint CIA/Argentinean intelligence infiltration of the Triple Border area was ignored by US authorities; a report that Aryan Nations elements have been operating in the Triple Border area since 1985; the presence of IRA splinter elements and Spanish ETA terrorists in the Triple Border area; indications that US authorities remain lethargic about investigating the Triple Border area; review of the connections between American neo-Nazi organization White Aryan Resistance (to which Timothy McVeigh allegedly belonged) and people involved with the AMIA bombing; review of National Alliance leader William Pierce’s foreshadowing of the 9/11 attacks.
http://www.spitfirelist.com/f457.html
http://wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=11410

(on edit) Maybe someone could clear up the apparent inconsistency in these two statements:

1.in which he spoke of the
purchase by Bush of a 98,842 acre farm in northern Paraguay, between
Brazil and Bolivia."


2."The Governor of Alto Paraguay, Erasmo Rodrigues Acosta has admitted to
hearing that George Bush Sr. owns land in the Chaco region of Paraguay, in
Paso de Patria.




Paso De Patria is in the southwest of Paraguay...Are there 2 ranches?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:56 PM
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20. From 2005: "US Establishes Military Base inb ParaguaY"
http://dominionpaper.ca/accounts/2005/09/23/us_militar.html

Just saying.
As if 1% of DUers understood?
Now, back to FOLEY.
BHN
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