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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 03:45 PM
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My MIL Says Oct Snow In Buffalo Was A TOTAL DISASTER
First of all I am so thankful that she is OK. But she says the whole area is like a bomb when off. So many trees are damaged and/or down. The trees still had their leaves on them and were not ready for this huge snowfall which has never happened in Oct before EVER.

She says her area (she lives in the suburb of Hamburg)will be forever changed, the landscape will be permanently damaged.

I don't know how much has to happen to convince people that climate change is not a "hoax" as my RWer friend is convinced. Why are Americans such lunkheads?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 03:48 PM
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1. over a quater million people still without power. May take another week
Edited on Sun Oct-15-06 03:48 PM by cryingshame
as much as TWO THIRDS of trees permanently damaged or possibly lost.
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 03:49 PM
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2. I have a question
Why was this snowfall so much different then what they get later in the year? I am from the south, so please over look my "snow" ignorance.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 03:51 PM
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4. Basically because people, structures and trees aren't ready!
I'm from SoCA so I'm snow ignorant too, LOL! Well people do all kinds of stuff to get their houses ready (storm doors and windows and stuff) but the worst part was the trees hadn't completed their fall cycle of shedding leaves. So all this wet snow was hanging on very heavy leaves then it melted suddenly and left the ground all soggy so trees and tree limbs were falling all over. A lot of the trees won't survive the damange and/or shock of it.
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 03:54 PM
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7. Thanks
that does make sense.


Please extend my thoughts to your MIL!
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 03:52 PM
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5. Because the leaves are still mostly on the trees n/t
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 04:05 PM
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11. Plus, it's even too early to legally have studs on your tires.
I know my car slides around if I have my summer tires on in the snow, and legally studs can't go on until Nov. 1!
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 04:28 PM
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17. It's because more snow can rest on leaves and branches
than just on branches, so with the added weight, they break. An if they are hanging over powerlines or buildings, the powerlines come down when the branch hits them and the buildings can have windows broken or other damage.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:44 PM
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19. Pictures!
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 10:36 PM
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22. Wow that is odd
seeing the green trees covered with snow, that really is bizarre
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 12:16 AM
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23. This city worker in Iowa decided to cut the grass anyway.
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 03:51 PM
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3. didn't they predict this would help Reynolds?
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 04:28 PM
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16. How come?
I can't imagine why. Because it takes the focus off all his Foley-related lies?
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:24 PM
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18. He announced the federal aid
BUFFALO, N.Y. Five million dollars in federal money has been approved for immediate use in the cleanup of the Buffalo snowstorm.

Congressman Tom Reynolds announced the money from Federal Emergency Management Agency today (Sunday).

http://www.wstm.com/Global/story.asp?S=5541856&nav=2aKD

The (p)resident has just declared the area a federal disaster zone, too.

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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 03:54 PM
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6. We had a situation like that here in Wisconsin in May a few years ago
All the trees had leafed out and then we got a big snowstorm.

Personally, I don't ask for sympathy when we have bad winter weather because we know how to handle it. I'm sure they do in Buffalo too. I feel worse when they get an ice storm in Florida or when we get brutally hot weather up here.

That said, losing electricity is always bad. I hope they pull together to get it back quickly.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 04:07 PM
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12. THis isn't "winter" though..it's a freak
snow storm before the middle of October and fits right into the Global Climate Change theory.

My best wishes to Buffalo and her people. We were suppose to get that snow storm, too, but I heard some change in the weather pattern spared us.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 04:25 PM
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14. hey, I recall that. AND no icefishing in JAN of last year up north either
as the ice was too thin. rats.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 04:00 PM
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8. When they replant trees, they should focus on more evergreens.
The snow just slides down the limbs and falls off if it gets too heavy.

And maybe some deciduous trees that are REALLY sensitive to cold so they drop their leaves really early?

Very sad. It will take a while, but you'll be surprised how quick some of those trees regrow limbs and look fine again.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 04:04 PM
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9. Fall in Buffalo Is So Beatiful
the colors of the landscape is firey and gorgeous...these trees (maple etc.) that they have always had there, it is so sad to see this happen. My hub told me that in the 1960s they had a Dutch Elm infestation that also changed the landscape very much for the worse.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 12:20 AM
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24. Your right! Beautiful!



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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 04:04 PM
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10. We had early ice storm in southern NY about 7-8 years ago
trees were uprooted by the thousands since the leaves and branches couldn't handle the weight of the ice.
Hundred year old trees were downed.
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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 04:10 PM
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13. I agree
Climate change is HUGE! major shift across the country. i live in salem oregon. Very long hot summer. We have palm trees growing well up here now (only a few traces of rain this summer). This whole summer we have had temps consisitantly above Los Angeles temps.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 04:25 PM
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15. Palm Trees In OR??
Boy I didn't know that!! I do know that here in L.A. this is the first time my tomatoes totally SUCKED...never recovered from the extended 110 - 113 weather we had in July.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:11 PM
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20. just picking tomato crop!
I live in the NorCal foothills, and my @#$%&* tomatoes are just now getting ripe, just in time to get wiped out by frost. Sigh. We had the same nasty heat wave; you really don't want know what our electricity bill looked like (Hubby has health issues that require running the AC).

Positive vibes go to those suffering in the early snow storms.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 10:35 PM
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21. I tore mine out, green tomatoes in Sept....
cuz I grow sweet peas on the tomato cages in the fall...everything's all out of wack!
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