Ben Nelson is the only one voting for Alito that I grugingly respect

[WI_DEM]

Why? Because he came out and said he was voting for him and opposed a filibuster. These seven other Dems who oppose a filibuster include some who will still vote NO and are hoping (I think) that Reid will say that Dems will not begin a filibuster becuz they don't have the votes to sustain it, and then go out and vote "NO" on Alito knowing that their "NO" vote isn't worth shit unless they support the filibuster. Nelson is the only one intellectually honest at this point. I disagree with him violently but he at least is being upfront.

[Horse with no Name]

1. He's bought and paid for

What is respectful about that?:shrug:

[im10ashus]

2. I agree.

How does his voting "yes" help send the right message? Unless he thinks Alito SHOULD be on the SCOTUS for life! :shrug:

[WI_DEM]

3. obviously you don't get my point

which is the other dems are in hiding saying they'll vote "NO" and then opposing a filibuster--and hoping it won't come back to haunt them. If they were intellectually honest they would just vote "Yes" and be done with it.

[Horse with no Name]

13. I get your point

However, there is nothing stand-up about someone who trades my liberties for their pet projects.
Even if it is out in the open.

[fooj]

7. Can you say "Franklin Cover-Up"?

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr...

Peace.

[LiberalAndProud]

4. Maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tight

but I think Ben's early announcement was a signalfire. On the other hand, perhaps I overestimate Ben's clout.

[leftstreet]

5. What's his reason for supporting Alito? He own a coat-hanger factory?

I can't imagine what justification there'd be for a yes vote.

[fooj]

9. The Franklin Cover-Up. Fresh from Nebraska.

Peace.

[Joe for Clark]

6. Intelluctually honest politician is an oxymoron.

No, his motives have to do with keeping his job.

SO, screw Nebraska - or wherever he comes from.

Upfront - no, just good at gamesmanship. And that is a problem, too.

We may lose the battle here, but damn, we better maintain our dignity.

Joe

[WI_DEM]

8. maybe so, but what about the others who will vote "NO" and

hope that Reid will not hold a filibuster so they would then have to show their hand? I still think they are worse.

[Joe for Clark]

14. I don't disagree with you WI_DEM,

But in truth - Nelson is an asshole - he just is.

The Republicans should be imploding right now - and that they are not is a direct result of our parties inability to lead, at all.

We just don't have a real leader yet.

Christ - filibuster?? We should be be walking out now. Storming out.

All we are missing right now is a genuine leader - we don't have to agree with everything he says - but he better have the air of a real leader.

Right now, we are just sore losers - but this can change on a dime. And it better.

I think it will.

No, I don't disagree with you WI_DEM. But Nelson is still a long way away from our (and I mean the countries) needs.


Joe

[skipos]

10. People we are talking about NEBRASKA here

We will never have a Barbara Boxer-type senator there.
Do I agree with Nelson on everything, no.
Is he better than any republican senator, yes.

[WI_DEM]

12. I can agree with you on that

though I wish on a party vote like this he would support the great majority of dems. He could easily have voted "NO" like the others who won't support a filibuster knowing that if the Dems don't filibuster Alito will get in anyway. That is why I grugingly respect him--and don't respect the others who will vote "NO" but then not support a filibuster.

[Bill Bored]

11. Well, we should TELL Reid to filibuster and then tell our own Senators

to vote to sustain it.

Reid said the other day he wants a woman on the court, citing Laura Bush of all people. That's as good a reason as any! It's non-partisan in fact!

Also, the Unitary Executive is a huge issue that the Senate should be up in arms about.

Roe v. Wade is important but it's not the whole ballgame and it's also being used as a diversion by the GOP corporate lackeys. But the issue of gender itself can be used as a proxy for Roe v Wade.

Harry is a smart man. If he has any clout in his own party, he might be able to get them to stick together on this.

So tell him to give 'em hell!
Phone: [phone] / Fax: [phone]

[Joe for Clark]

15. Harry is from Nevada,

Ever been to Nevada?? You know, land of Las Vegas, etc..

The day we have to trust a politician is the day we are f_cked.

He has a job too he wants to keep - understandably.

The very reason Clark should have won is the reason he lost - he was NOT a politician.

I think about this - I want Gore. He was there with Bill, he has been out of it now a few years, and he knows both worlds.

And that guy is a real leader - speaks his mind and does not back off.

We do not have very many leaders in this party.

Jow