I guess the firestorm we witnessed the other evening in Iraq

[madokie]

when the armory went up in flames didn't happen after all?:shrug:
but seriously whats the deal? Still no news.

[Monkeyman]

1. Not a word hmmm

[madokie]

9. Have you notice the casuality count, its going up real damn fast

I read on here that we lost 7 today. 7 people who were head and shoulders above any in the bush* crime cabal.

[wholetruth00]

22. Are they giving us the count 5 at a time?

Didn't one DUer say they were going to find out what was going on from a friend whose son is stationed at the munitions site?

[NanceGreggs]

2. IMHO ...

... it was a total disaster. Otherwise, we'd have had 'coverage' from the MSM, with 'official' statements about how insignificant the entire event was.

With this WH, no news (i.e. spin) mean BAD NEWS!

[pwb]

3. silence is telling

it is big, i think.

[karlrschneider]

4. It was a MIRAGE! Common out there in the desert!

:eyes:

[madokie]

11. I guess so.

I haven't seen fireworks like that in 37 years.

[karlrschneider]

13. A li'l pome:

A firework show in Iraq
On TV but it quickly went black
And now there's no story
'Cause the media's whory
And claim we were all smoking crack.

;-)

[Viva_La_Revolution]

15. bravo

:applause:

[Imagevision]

21. Penatgon states; "no casualties have been reported" Key word is?

[SpiralHawk]

5. Move along, there is nothing to see here.

We have always been at war with East Farkistan.

Prosperity is just around the corner.

Big BushCo loves you.

[hobbit709]

6. Their take-Nothing to see, move along

My take-unmitigated disaster just before the election. If anything gets out it would spell doom for the neocons.

[leftchick]

7. the deaths are leaking out slowly...

I am sure that anyone killed in an attack like that would be buried in releases like this...

http://icasualties.org/oif/prdDetails.aspx?hndRef=10-2006

Date Total Name Place of Death - Province Cause of Death
15-Oct-2006 7 | US: 7 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Salah Ad Din Province Hostile - hostile fire
US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Salah Ad Din Province Hostile - hostile fire
US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Kirkuk - At-Ta'mim Hostile - hostile fire
US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Kirkuk - At-Ta'mim Hostile - hostile fire
US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Baghdad (north of) Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire
US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire
14-Oct-2006 5 | US: 5 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Baghdad (south of) Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Baghdad (south of) Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Baghdad (south of) Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire
US Airman 1st Class Leebenard E. Chavis Baghdad Hostile - hostile fire
13-Oct-2006 3 | US: 3 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Lieutenant Johnny K. Craver Baghdad Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
US Private 1st Class Kenny F. Stanton Jr. Baghdad (southwest of) Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
US Private 1st Class Thomas J. Hewett Walter Reed Medical Ctr. - Baghdad Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
12-Oct-2006 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Sergeant Gene A. Hawkins Mosul - Ninawa Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
11-Oct-2006 3 | US: 3 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Sergeant Justin T. Walsh National Naval Medical Center, Bethesda - Anbar Hostile - hostile fire - disarming IED
US Captain Shane T. Adcock Hawijah - At-Ta'mim Hostile - hostile fire - grenade
US Sergeant 25, of Tempe, Ariz., Nicholas R. Sowinski Baghdad (central part) Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
09-Oct-2006 5 | US: 5 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire
US Private 1st Class Shelby J. Feniello Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
US Lance Corporal Jon Eric Bowman Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
US Private 1st Class Phillip B. Williams Baghdad (eastern part) Hostile - hostile fire - small arms fire
US Sergeant Julian M. Arechaga Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack

[madokie]

12. I'm still inclined to think we aren't getting the whole truth and nothing

but the truth concerning the numbers of of our fallen soldiers.

[leftchick]

16. oh I agree

I think the death rate is being as stifled as possible by the pentagon. As usual. :(

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

8. Explosions in Iraq?

This is news?

[Ian David]

10. What could possibly go wrong with all that depleted uranium amunition?

Right now, Halliburton is just collecting all the radioactive dust to add the the fecal-contaminated water they feed our troops.

[stillcool]

14. I found something...

from the Brits Sunday Herald....
http://www.sundayherald.com/58553

As US troops fear a new onslaught, the head of the British army calls for a pullout, leaving Iraq’s future in the balance. By James Cusick

Last Tuesday night in Baghdad the Iraqi skyline was lit up. In what was believed to be one of the most sustained and ferocious mortar and rocket attacks in three years, there was widespread fear among senior US military personnel that the protected international zone (IZ), formerly the “green zone”, was about to experience a direct assault.

Major gun battles were being fought in two of Baghdad’s districts – Doura and Mansoor. Doura has a large oil refinery, Mansoor is technically an affluent area close to the IZ. Gunfire and explosions were louder than normal and then, at around 7pm, the first large rocket landed inside the IZ itself. Another hit came after 10 minutes, then another two minutes later. Then a series of explosions, different to the daily “normal” rocket attacks were felt. For those in the IZ, the explosions were so close and so fierce that, even for experienced military personnel, “you could taste the cordite in your teeth”.

The sustained attacks lasted for two hours, during which Camp Falcon, a major US ammunition and storage dump, was hit. The attack resulted in what one security official called “a fireworks display”. But the display wasn’t put on for entertainment. Immediate military feedback pointed to casualties.

With the IZ in blackout mode, specific troop and tanks movements were ordered, said to be a precautionary defensive measure. But there was high-level concern that the fireworks would be followed by something the US military fears – a large-scale assault on the IZ itself. Helicopters were all over the place trying to figure out what was happening and where the attacks were coming from. Tuesday in Baghdad wasn’t a good night if you needed to sleep.

The official US military line on Tuesday night was that fire had broken out at the weapons dump in southern Baghdad and that “ammunition cooking off” had caused the explosions. There were no official reports of casualties. The Iraqi interior ministry added little, saying only that neighbourhoods close to the Falcon forward operating base in Doura had been “shaken”.

15 October 2006
©2006 newsquest (sunday herald) limited. all rights reserved

also...on Democracy Now Amy Goodman rattled off more than a few journalists that had died of late in Iraq.

[catmandu57]

18. I heard a report like this

When it first happened Brian Williams I'm positive talked about the camp being under a sustained twenty minute mortar attack when the dump blew. There were some spectacular explosions in the background, now, silence. I'm bookmarking this thread.

[stillcool]

19. I looked for info..

right after it happened..and every article I found had the same wording...'ammunition dump hit by fire'. And, today I find this...what a difference heh? I posted it but got no response:shrug:

[spanone]

17. How can the Pentagon Control the Media to this extent?

Very scary.

[Imagevision]

20. Simple, the pentagon sez what coverage is released, this would make Bush

and the GOP look very bad with the election in 22 days! Like they said, "no casualties are being reported"

[EFerrari]

23. Email the Public Editor @ the NYTs:

Public @ nytimes.com

Ask him if they're sitting on this story until a year after the election just as they did the NSA wiretapping story.

Ask him THAT.

[americanstranger]

24. I blogged about it the other day...

http://www.blah3.com/article.php?story=20061013105957280

And another blogger showed up in my comments and left this link:

http://piglipstick.blogspot.com/2006/10/news-blackout-on-major-disaster-near.html

He took the question of 'What happened with that ammo dump fire?' and ran with it. He's got a YouTube video of the fire on his blog. You gotta check it out - especially what happens at about 3:59 of the video.

A MASSIVE explosion, and I mean massive. It looks like a goddam nuke going off. Must-see.

- as

[magellan]

25. Thanks for this

Since the explosion blinds the camera for several moments it must have been significant. Also you can see something bright and huge, like the roof of a building, flying up to the left and then falling to the ground just after the explosion. Impossible to say what that was since there's no way to gauge how far away from the camera the base is. But overall it's pretty disturbing. I really find it hard to believe there were no casualties, and I mean by the proper definition of the word: injured or killed. (How did casualty come to mean only 'dead' in this country??)

[americanstranger]

26. I noticed that myself.

How big does a bomb have to be to blow the entire top of a building into the air?

The flash itself is more than a little horrifying. Hard to imagine how anyone within a few blocks of that blast could survive.

- as

[magellan]

28. It's a damn good question

We'd really have to know how far away it was to estimate the size of the object. If we could do that we might be able to estimate the size of the blast better.

[HeeBGBz]

27. Just saw this. I wish I hadn't

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2409821

I think something major went down.

[jollyreaper2112]

29. dicking the numbers

Can they really get away with dicking the numbers like this? It just seems like it would be too easy for the truth to come out. They're already dicking it some with how many people are surviving the fights. I don't blame this on Bush, just unintended consequences of our medical technology. People are living through this war who would have died in previous wars, people who might feel death would have been a better option. If we were using Vietnam tech, the death toll would probably be 5x greater. But we don't hear about the wounded. And that skews perspective a great deal.

But can they really coverup something like this if there were a ton of deaths? I'm thinking the death toll is probably in the 10's or so with the administration not concerned so much with the death toll but the incredible loss of face.

[nomo]

30. K&R

Where's the mainstream media on this??