I feel sorry for the Iraqis

[question everything]

what if we take Congress and then really just pull out the troops? And the Iraqis are left to continue killing each other? We got them in this mess and I feel bad if they end up paying for our democratic process.

Not that it can get any worse. And there was something on ABC News that their leaders do not exactly jump to separate the factions... I don't know.

I have no idea how it will end. The other day there was a report about most of the middle class escaping to Syria and to Jordan. This is what happened in Palestine. After the peace process signed many American entrepreneurs came to start new ventures but the intifada ruined all of this.

[TheCowsCameHome]

1. We weren't obligated to meddle in Iraq in the first place.

They've been fighting internally for 800 years. It's way past time we were smart enough to stay the hell out of places we don't belong.

There's loads of places in the world with troubles, but lets quit playing cops and straighten our own back yard out first.

I hope we learn something from this terrible mess Bush has created.

[roguevalley]

2. this is such a mess. i know what you mean. however, they will kill

themselves anyway now no matter what we do because the genie is out of the bottle. god help them. this country is becoming what the inside of Bush's brain must look like: a chaotic bloody mess.

[John Q. Citizen]

3. Do you have a translation? I'm not sure what you are trying to express.

[question everything]

12. Thinking out loud

Yes, we should pull back as soon as we can, but the Iraqis now are no better than the way they were under Hussein, and we brought it. Yes, they are killing each other, but they may not have done so without our intervention. We brought "democracy" - what a shamble.

So I grieve for the dead and mutilated and tortured Iraqis, and I grieve for our role in this.

[MadMaddie]

4. Well...technically these factions were fighting in the early 1900's

before Britain went in and created Iraq...these factions have been fighting for hundreds of years....the creation of Iraq and they dynasty of Saddam was just a delay in the fighting.....(I don't mean this to sound cold)


the 3 factions in Iraq and that region...there is no winning solution to this it has spiraled out of control....there will be many, many more deaths and many more years before there is ever peace in the region...

I think that the * cabal must be held accountable for the 600,000 Iraqi deaths, for the 3000 American soldiers lost, for the massive injuries, for coalition force deaths..etc....

[question everything]

11. I agree. And this is why they would be better off splitting into three

nations and before we leave, we should encourage that, instead of insisting on a "united" government. As it is, secular Iraq under Hussein is now on its way to another Taliban-style society.

Sometimes rival tribes that cannot live in harmony, for reasons that go back centuries, can do so only under absolute rule. This is how was Yugoslavia, this is how it is in Iraq, even the Russians went back to Soviet style rule with Putin.

I wonder whether the killing and kidnapping and torture by now has surpassed what was happening in Bosnia in the 90s.

[MadMaddie]

14. That is a good question...

Milosovich was held responsible wasn't he?

[cliss]

5. I do too, QE.

I feel horribly about what we've done to that country. I'm not sure what the solution is for THEM>

But FOR US, the solution is to get out. Today. This afternoon.

[StellaBlue]

6. No shit..

fuck, fuck, fuck

[NNN0LHI]

7. I didn't feel sorry for the Vietnamese when we quit slaughtering them

No I didn't. Not at all.

Don

[Ms. Clio]

10. bing-fucking-o n/t

[Erika]

8. There is no such thing as an Iraqi in reality

They are warring tribes. Even Saddam couldn't control Northern Iraq. Iraq is like Humpty Dumpty, it won't go together as one country. They hate and distrust each other too much.

The sooner we leave the better.

[Imagevision]

9. Over 600,000 killed, with the ied's etc. goin off their living in insanity

Iraqi's have to fera the US. troops and the locals, crazy, imagine 40 bombs goin off in your town on your way to work or picking your kid up?!!

[jokerman93]

13. Well, we started the fire this time

but now the damage is done. Whether we pull out now or not, what will emerge from the conflict is ultimately going to be up to the Iraqis. America has failed to be a determining factor in the outcome. They're going to have to figure it out now themselves and decide if they want perpetual slaughter and mutual destruction, or a more productive peaceful co-existence. Same choice every nation on earth is now, or is about to be, in the process of facing - one way or another (seems like).

The world is changing fast...

J