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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:03 PM
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Fun, fun, fun till Daddy took the Iraq war away
Bush's Iraq disaster is taking the GOP down, and his father's old pal James Baker is about to tell him what to do.

Oct. 17, 2006 | In perhaps the strangest vindication of that old '60s chestnut "The personal is the political," the fate of America's Iraq adventure may hinge on whether George W. Bush can handle being taken to the woodshed by an emissary of his old man.

For Bush, the day of reckoning is at hand. After years of talking tough, smearing war opponents as appeasers and demanding "total victory," he must confront the fact that his Iraq war has been a catastrophic failure. Terror attacks are up, American casualties are soaring near record levels, and a credible study claims that at least several hundred thousand Iraqis have died as a result of the war, demolishing whatever moral rationale it had.

Of more immediate concern to Bush, Americans have turned against the Iraq war so strongly that the issue now threatens to take down Bush's party, not just in the midterms but in 2008 as well. After a brief uptick in the polls driven by a major GOP "war on terror" P.R. campaign in September, Bush's ratings have again dropped into the low 30s, and with the Republicans reeling from the Mark Foley scandal and no hope on Iraq's bloody horizon, they will probably continue to fall. The Democrats look increasingly likely to take back the House, and perhaps the Senate too.

The country is at a tipping point, which could be described as the moment when even those Americans who get all their information from Fox News abandon Bush's sinking ship. GOP leaders know that if the U.S. is still bogged down in Iraq in 2008, their chances of capturing the presidency will be severely lessened. Senior GOP leaders like John Warner are firing warning shots across Bush's bow. He is under increasing pressure to do something -- anything -- to stop the bleeding.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2006/10/17/baker/
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:12 PM
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1. This article is kind a fun too. nt
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:12 PM
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2. 59 U.S. troops dead this month in W's war of choice
at www.icasualties.org 2,772,mostly young, dead Americans. And not just boys/men.

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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:36 PM
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12. That is the definition of evil
God help us all.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:21 PM
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3. So now the grown-ups want to take charge. Two questions: what
took them so long, and will the blivet let them? I imagine he does have a choice; is he so enamoured with his own power? How will he excuse this without accepting responsibility or admitting to "mistakes", something rethugs are not good at at all?
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:31 PM
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4. I cross referenced this fantastic Salon article with the stunning pic
attached to the article.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2409501&mesg_id=2409501

Great, amazing, brilliant find. Thank you so much. MKJ
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:33 PM
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5. Great title and article. k&r
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:40 PM
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6. This article is worth kicking more than once. Thanks again, CatWoman.
I shamelessly stole the pic for an OP.

The two together are stunning. MKJ
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:41 PM
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7. and thank YOU very much
:hi:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:42 PM
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8. I just love the subject line Catwoman
:rofl:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:43 PM
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9. me too
I yelped with laughter

:rofl:
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:01 PM
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10. OK, you anti day pass people...here's another snippet to whet your
appetite.

Having just claimed that the war in Iraq is "the calling of our generation" and the equivalent of World War II, it's going to be hard for Bush to suddenly say, "Never mind!"

Even worse, there is no guarantee that any of these new tactics would work -- in fact, they could easily make things even worse.

In short, Baker's report will be a heaping plate of crow. The big question is: Will Bush be able to bring himself to eat it -- especially since it's being served up by an emissary of his father?


This is a two page article, extremely well written, deserving of our support.

Gary Kamiya is the writer. Take note of this guy. MKJ
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:02 PM
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11. make sure you read the thread in the
"please read this" thread I posted.

Fucking amazing.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:38 PM
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13. Hey CatWoman, I will be bookmarking this article and the other one
is even more bookmarkworthy.

:kick:

MKJ
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