Illnesses "return" to some in Fiji after Benny Hinn's "healing crusade"

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

Pastors claim crusade 'hoodwinked' locals

http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=35799

Pastor Navi Bola, of the Liberty Baptist Church in Ba, said people had called to tell him that although they had been 'healed' at the crusade, their sicknesses seemed to have returned on Monday.

"From Monday morning, I had received calls from three people saying that sicknesses they had before the crusade had returned and wasn't any better," said Mr Bola.

"These people followed what Mr Hinn said and put their hands on the parts of their bodies that were in pain but they didn't feel any healing."

"What needs to be done is for people who were healed to be verified because one of the members of the organising committee said on radio that the crusade was focused on salvation and not entirely on healing," said Mr Bola. "That is different from what was being said before the crusade because it was all about healing."

[htuttle]

1. Isn't he the loon that slaps people in the foreheads?

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

2. He's one of them...Rod Parsley is another.

[elehhhhna]

6. Ernest Angely was the best, tho. lol

[karlrschneider]

12. Is that old bastard still around? Used to watch him scream BAY-BEE

in the ears of hard-of-hearing people. :D

And also :puke:

[MercutioATC]

24. He's MUCH better now. He actually COUNTS the demons!

He whaps people on the head, they fall over and he gives a random number of demons he's exorcised.



*WHAP*

"73 Deeeeeemons"



It's AMAZING entertainment.

[malaise]

3. Stupid people deserve to be fleeced

Benny Hinn is one of the great con men.

[FreedomAngel82]

11. Oh yes

I know other Christians on this board I frequent that don't like him either.

[GreenPartyVoter]

16. Many in those cases are not stupid, just desperate for some kind of hope.

[Ariana Celeste]

4. Benny Hinn makes me sick

My uncle hangs on every word that comes out of that man's mouth, believes with all his heart that Benny Hinn can heal people, claims that Hinn helped heal him. (wasn't surgery, oh no. Prayer did it.)

[FreedomAngel82]

13. Heh

Oh yes. Technology is so evil. :eyes: I hope you show him this. I highly believe he's phony. I do believe in reiki and that healing can happen (I've used it for myself personally and other friends) but I've seen no proof of him and I get weird vibes from him. Just untrustworthy type.

[porphyrian]

5. It's the hypnotic effect of his hairdo that heals.

The effects wear off when you no longer see the hair. Besides, how many Indian people do you know with a bad Southern accent?

ALL televangelists are irresponsible scam artists who victimize the ignorant and desperate. I hate every one of the pieces of shit.

[Journeyman]

7. It was all about the money, fool. . .

Did you give Benny the big bucks? Then the crusade was a success. Benny thanks ya. He'll continue to pray for you, too, that you might invite him to return. Good luck with those aches and pains. Think of 'em as signs of growth. You'd do well to learn what lessons you can from 'em, Navi Bola.

Pray TV looks like pay TV to me, it's just a curse on the human race. ~Pete Townshend

[FreedomAngel82]

14. I wonder where all of his money goes

I remember being at my grandmother's church one Sunday and the preacher was talking about phonies and people who scam other people and he was for the IRS going after them. It's just so wrong to scam people. Like Pat Robertson did with his diamond mind.

[Vanje]

21. Heroin

There was a heroin problem in Hinn's organization a while back.
http://www.thedoormagazine.com/theheretic.html

[FreedomAngel82]

25. Oh wow

Nothing would surprise me!

[malaise]

18. YOu didn't see NBC's dateline on Benny

last year. It goes on trips to exotic resorts.
Here's a reference to the earlier programme.
http://www.cultnews.com/index.php/category/bennyhinn/

[Cell Whitman]

8. Fiji cares about its citizens - denied Moon entry

Fiji has had a lot of political turmoil in recent years.

You have to hand it to them, they will face a problem if their people are being screwed unlike "some" nations I know. Funny, one of the reasons Moon's backers were mad he wasn't allowed into Fiji was because they were allowing Hinn in. Maybe now they will awaken even more...

When will the world learn about these scoundrels?

http://www.pacificislands.cc/pina/pinadefault2.php?urlpinaid=18731

FIJI: Rev. Moon “Not A Fit And Proper Person To Enter The Country”
Wednesday: December 7, 2005

The Fiji Government has described the North Korean born international evangelist Reverend Doctor Sun Myung Moon as “not a fit and proper person to enter the country.”

Justifying its decision, the Fiji Government said the evangelist’s doctrines are considered “misleading, repugnant and divisive and would affect the peace, good order, public safety and public morality of the Fiji Islands.”

Reverend Moon was informed of the Fiji government’s decision last night, as he was about to board a plane from Samoa to Nadi.

Known as the Father to his followers, Reverend Moon is the head of the Universal Peace Federation and the Inter-religion Federation for World Peace.

He was to attend a peace conference at the Sheraton in Nadi.

According to Fiji Immigration’s Chief Executive Officer, Dr Lesi Korovavala, his office had considered the representations made from individuals and religious organizations, who have expressed serious concerns regarding the repercussions of some of Dr Sun Moon’s ideologies, beliefs, practices and how he conducts his personal life.

In short, Dr Sun Moon’s doctrines are considered misleading, repugnant and divisive and would affect the peace, good order, public safety and public morality of the Fiji Islands,” Dr Korovavala said.

“On that premise, Dr Sun Moon is considered as not a fit and proper person to enter the country.”

Dr Korovavala further highlighted that Fiji is a sovereign democratic country, and as such he stated, “We have every right to decide to whom we will admit or refuse admission to our borders.”

Fiji TV said the country’s immigration department will deport him if he arrived at the Nadi International Airport.

_____

Neil Bush traveled with Moon on this tour - promoting Moon's UN and planet gigging unit, The Universal Peace Federation.

Find out some about that here: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/12/2/224046/295

[dogday]

9. He performs miracles, just look at that combover....

[KamaAina]

15. Combover? What combover?

Hinn has a full-on RUG!!!!

[FreedomAngel82]

10. I'm really not surprised

Perhaps it was all a mind-set thing such as manipulation. They believed he could heal them and they didn't focus on the illness they had. :shrug:

[EvolveOrConvolve]

17. Why do all these televangelists have the

same creepy child-molester look to them?

I shudder when I look at Mr. Hinn. :puke:

[greyl]

19. What a shock. More on Hinn here:

Critical studies are illuminating. Dr. William A. Nolen, in his book Healing: A Doctor in Search of a Miracle (1974), followed up on several reported cases of healing from a Kathryn Kuhlman service but found no miracles-only remissions, psychosomatic diseases, and other explanations, including the power of suggestion.

More recently a study was conducted following a Benny Hinn crusade in Portland, Oregon, where seventy-six miracles were alleged. For an HBO television special, A Question of Miracles (Thomas 2001), Benny Hinn Ministries was asked to supply the names of as many of these as possible for investigation. After thirteen weeks, just five names were provided. Each case was followed for one year. cont: http://www.csicop.org/si/2002-05/i-files.html

[tanyev]

20. Verified? There's no verification in faith healing!

:rofl:

[JohnyCanuck]

22. I saw an exposé on Benny Hinn sometime back.

The reporter said that there were lots of people in attendance with very severe physical deformities, and late stage cancers etc and other very serious illnesses. Some of them had encountered severe financial hardships scratching together their last dime to make it to Pastor Benny's traveling healing and salvation show and to make donations to his "ministry".

Those in need of healing would be gathered together in one area waiting for the opportunity to go on stage and get Pastor Benny's healing touch. However before they could get on stage some of Pastor Benny's helpers did a reverse triage procedure and ensured only the least disabled and the ones with the least apparent illness were allowed up on stage with Pastor Benny to get the opportunity of being healed. The sickest, the most incapacitated and the ones with the severest deformities etc. were never allowed up on stage at all. The reporter described the case of one mother in particular who attended with a severely incapacitated child. This mother had gone though tremendous financial hardships to give money to Hinn and to pay for the travel arrangements to get herself and her son to the Hinn crusade, believing if only Benny could work his healing magic her son would be healed without a doubt. When she found out her son was not among those considered a suitable candidate for the Pastor to work his magic on and get healed, she was absolutely devastated.

Hinn claimed that God ripped the pacemaker out of a woman's body because she didn't need it anymore.

Hinn claims that a man in Ghana was raised from the dead on the platform. "We have it on video!" he says – although he's never produced the video.

I could go on, but you get the idea. Even sadder than the people who think they're healed are the ones so sick that Hinn's employees never allow them to be seen on stage. People suffering from paralysis, brain damage, dementia and the like – people who couldn't possibly make any "demonstration" on stage – are rejected at a screening session held backstage.

In two cases journalists have tried to verify all the healings at a particular crusade. For an HBO documentary called A Question of Miracles, researchers attended a Portland, Oregon, crusade at which 76 miracles were claimed. Even though Hinn had agreed to provide medical verification of each one, he stonewalled requests for the data, then eventually responded 13 weeks later – with only five names. HBO followed up the five cases and determined that a woman "cured" of lung cancer had died nine months later, an old woman's broken vertebra wasn't healed after all, a man with a logging injury deteriorated as he refused medication and a needed operation, a woman claiming to be healed of deafness had never been deaf (according to her husband), and a woman complaining of "breathlessness" had stopped going to the doctor on instructions of her mother.

http://www.thedoormagazine.com/theheretic.html

[FreedomAngel82]

27. It's all a ploy and he's so disgusting

I wish someone could get him for all the hell he's brought on people. :mad: I am glad there are Christian's out there who don't buy his nonsense.

[mmonk]

23. Did he tell them how long they would be healed?

Maybe he decided to give it back.;-)

[Canuckistanian]

26. He was in my neighborhood when I was a kid.

I think he was some kind of phenomenon, like an evangelical pop star.

[kevinbgoode]

28. It was about fleecing the public

just like a modern day snake oil salesman. . .