Chertoff: Web Could Be Terror Training Camp

[kpete]

Web could be terror training camp: Chertoff
Tue Oct 17


BOSTON (Reuters) - Disaffected people living in the United States may develop radical ideologies and potentially violent skills over the Internet and that could present the next major U.S. security threat, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said on Monday.

"We now have a capability of someone to radicalize themselves over the Internet," Chertoff said on the sidelines of a meeting of International Association of the Chiefs of Police.

"They can train themselves over the Internet. They never have to necessarily go to the training camp or speak with anybody else and that diffusion of a combination of hatred and technical skills in things like bomb-making is a dangerous combination," Chertoff said. "Those are the kind of terrorists that we may not be able to detect with spies and satellites."

Chertoff pointed to the July 7, 2005 attacks on London's transit system, which killed 56 people, as an example a home-grown threat.

more at:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061017/tc_nm/security_chertoff_dc_5

[Gabi Hayes]

1. put these nazis in PRISON! quick, before they do it to us

what can you say about ravings like that?

this man is in CHARGE of Homeland Security, though, and it's beyond frightening

[tridim]

2. We'd better shut the whole thing down then

That's the only sure way to get rid of the threat. :sarcasm:

[aquart]

6. No, no, keep it open for buying things and movie previews.

But charge liberals a fortune for every online second.

That'll keep them in check.

[Flying Dream Blues]

10. And don't forget the porn. Repugs aren't going to shut THAT down. nt

[nam78_two]

14. No just restrict access -so that only the "right" kind of people

have full access....

The rest of the riff-raff can still use it for shopping if they want to...

[ProgressiveEconomist]

33. Or they could force ISPs to block sites with "anti-US sentiment scores"

See the thread at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x240870 .

Universities have been awarded DHS contracts to come up with algorithms for rating the degree of "anti-US sentiment" on a webpage. Why would Chertoff want to be able to measure the extent of "anti-US sentiment" unless he planned to do something about sites with scores that are "too high"?

[aquart]

3. Can we hang him from a bridge in New Orleans?

Being pro-death penalty really helps vengeance fantasies. I have no interest in rehabilitating this murderous creep.

Our people were begging for help. Begging.

[Bitwit1234]

4. Newspapers, Magazines, network TV, cable TV

Is the internet the next communication path that the cons want to take over...hell yes. They can't control us yet but they are trying like the devil.

[leveymg]

5. I have one word for you, Mike

:P EATME. :P

Decode that.

[npincus]

7. yeah.. lock up them terrists at Democraticunderground.COM

'COM' as in "Commies".

[Rex]

8. Dream on you fascist goon. When they write about 43 and his

minions in the history books, it will be about how they sponsored terrorism by destroying the secular nation of Iraq. What Heir Chertoff is describing is what George signed into law today. The ability to torture American citizens based on what they think and not what they do.

I say fuck these assholes and I hope the rot in Hell for all eternity.

[htuttle]

9. So, they want to be able to imprison someone forever, without charges...

...based ONLY on where (they say) a person browsed on the web?

[Gabi Hayes]

20. not forever, silly. only for as long as the War on Terror lasts.

and we're WINNING!

[htuttle]

26. Oh, like a boot stomping on a human face, as long as the GWOT lasts

So, at least we have that to look forward to...

[Gabi Hayes]

31. congratulations! you have achieved the state of "double plus good!"

http://www.studentsfororwell.org/icas

[Matariki]

11. "To help gather intelligence on possible home-grown attackers"

Scary phrase, that. We're heading down the road towards detaining citizens, aren't we?

[havocmom]

34. And we are further down that road than most realize

They will be shutting down most of the web soon, to protect us of course.

They already passed legislation limiting sites one can access from rural public libraries. Places like DU are probably filtered out now, but I haven't checked. All part of the committee work like Foley was doing. They want to limit access to chats, many DISCUSSION BOARDS and various news sites deemed a threat to the
children.

(edited to add: ) Yep, they have used the greiving parents of kids killed by predators as cover for stopping the free flow of information that is damaging to the GOP/Cheney junta! Used those sad and earnest parents just like they used the Christian Right.!

Bigger libraries already has lots of limits and filters on their computers, but smaller communities sorta slipped through some cracks in the rules, so they passed new rules. And it happened about the time the GOP noticed they were losing the heartland. A-MAZING, huh?

Yep, we all enemy combatants now. If ya don't have enough cash to be a conspicuous consumer, ya must be using the Internets for learning unsavory skills.

I want off, this ride is getting too annoying.

[spanone]

12. Planting the seeds....they will soon go after the freedom the internet

affords the world. It exposes way too much for these thugs.

[nam78_two]

13. Yeah

Yeah the whole internet terror stuff has slowly been creeping into the dialog. That angel of goodness and light, Michelle Malkin was the first to suggest dragging all those who put up suspicious looking videos, whatever that means, to interrogation rooms...

[WinkyDink]

23. it started with the "threat to children" from MySpace, blogs, IM's, etc.

[CorpGovActivist]

15. With Education Loan Cuts, Nobody Will Be Able to ...

... afford the training camp tuition - even via distance learning!

; )

- Dave

[undeterred]

16. terrorism: the education you can afford

He's practically promoting it. Did he give a link?

[Solly Mack]

17. "Disaffected people" IOW's - people that disagree with us

Look the word up...it pertains to those who are rebellious against authority...

[dailykoff]

18. Translation: 9/11 truth is spreading like wildfire on the web

and Chertoff is out of a job if der Fuhrer gets busted.

[readmoreoften]

19. An excellent translation!

I am also working on an advanced degree--double concentration in America Bushit and American English-- so that I, too, can be a translator. It's a growing field.

[Land Shark]

21. "radicalize" = find out the truth about the Bush administration.

[kpete]

22. with your help...

I will do the best I can...........

“Whenever you have truth it must be given with love, or the message and the messenger will be rejected”
Mahatma Gandhi

[ChairmanAgnostic]

24. Hell yes. And in libraries, schools, mosques, churches and temples, too!

what a fucking shytehead he is.

[and-justice-for-all]

25. No..Churches (Jesus camp) are Terror Training Camps...nt

[Canuckistanian]

27. Hey, I never thought of that. Thanks, Chertoff!

That way, I can spread jihad in my pajamas!

[hootinholler]

28. Well, that didn't take long...

Bush signed the enemy combatant bill into law just this morning.

Am I the only one who sees the scenario of a back door plant of evidence onto a hard drive and then declaring the owner as an internet radicalized enemy combatant?

The remainder is left as an exercise.

-Hoot

[KittyWampus]

29. sounds like he's referring to Freepers

[Pachamama]

30. Yeah, I'm training myself to think and seek out the truth!!!

How Dangerous!!!!! :scared:

[Quantess]

32. K & R

[happydreams]

35. Terror Training=informing the public.

That guy has to be the model for Skeletor.

[eppur_se_muova]

36. Obviously, the same applies to reading and writing.

...or to anything even remotely useful. It MIGHT be used for evil, it MIGHT be used for good. Someone please stuff this fearmonger back under the rock out from under which he crawled.

[TexasLawyer]

37. You know what is "radicalizing" me?

Bush and his policies.