how ironic that a cancer thread is followed by a 'smoking nazi' thread n/

[MnFats]

[nam78_two]

1. heh yeah/nt

[devilgrrl]

2. go into your garage, shut the door and turn on the car...

which will kill you faster? The fumes in the garage or the guy across the street smoking?

[Lindacooks]

4. Where do you people GET this? It's the opposite of logic.

Cigarette smoke contains so many carcinogens and toxic chemicals and addictive drugs it's insane.

This false dichotomy is so funny - you smokers will say just about anything to defend your addiction, won't you?

[devilgrrl]

8. Yep, doesn't make a bit of difference.

What's a few smoke stacks????







at least it isn't second hand smoke from the less than 20% that even smoke, this is an epidemic we're talking here...

[Lindacooks]

11. Who said nonsmokers don't care about that?

God, your reasoning needs some help.

[calico1]

10. This is a bizarre comparison.

Yeah, you will die quick if you lock yourself in the garage with you car on and breathe the exhaust. But how many people do you know do that just for the hell of it? To my knowledge the only people that do it is people who WANT to die.:eyes:

[redacted]

3. True, now go k&r my cancer thread -- it's for a good cause

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2417566

[Phredicles]

5. Is today, like, national argue about smoking day?

:shrug:


Maybe it's that I live in California, but I don't see this as a big thing any more: I hate smoking, but I don't have to breathe that shit much of anywhere.

[Beaverhausen]

12. Yes, every tuesday at DU is the day we argue about smoking

and just so you are ready, wednesday is Hillary-Bashing day, although some people got a head start today.

[MnFats]

6. as it happens, i'm a smoker myself, pack a day. clearly i am an addict

i would love to quit
haven't been able to


Kurt Vonnegut Jr. wrote a few years back that with all the information about the misery caused by smoking, anyone still smoking cigarettes should be considered to be attempting suicide and should be treated as such.

[trixie]

7. ....

:smoke: :smoke:

[zreosumgame]

9. yeah, yeah all cancer is caused by smoking

go beat up on a smoker, last refuge for the Scarlet letter 'shunning' crowd. And as soon as nobody smokes again all cancer will disapper...yeah rrrriiiggghhhttt

[Lindacooks]

13. Smoking is the largest preventable cause of death in this country.

And we who do not choose to poison ourselves resent you polluting our air.

Oh, why am I even bothering? I don't give a flying crap about smokers. I used to care - I fought to get nonsmoking areas in places, and fought to get smokers' treatment when they wanted it. Then I stopped caring about smokers when it became totally apparent (as evidenced by all the addict's excuses and deflection on this board) that not only do they not care about their own health, they don't care that they're ruining mine.

[bigwillq]

16. I thought obesity

overtook smoking for that #1 claim.

:shrug:

[calico1]

18. Shhhhh....

You want to get some weight threads started?

:P

[bigwillq]

19. Sorry.

:hide:

:P :)

[brook]

20. Please.

Obesity's a "no fault" zone -therefore - that little tidbit of yours? - "bigotry".

I really hope you're sorry! :)

[Lindacooks]

23. Let's get something straight right now.

Obese people aren't a threat to your health. Smokers are a threat to your health.

If you can't see the difference, then you must be addicted.

[Lindacooks]

22. Nope.

http://www.wpro.who.int/media_centre/fact_sheets/fs_20020528.htm

Smoking is the single largest preventable cause of disease and premature death. It is a prime factor in heart disease, stroke and chronic lung disease. It can cause cancer of the lungs, larynx, oesophagus, mouth, and bladder, and contributes to cancer of the cervix, pancreas, and kidneys.

AND

Smoking-related diseases cost the United States more than $150 billion a year.

[calico1]

14. All cancer is not caused by smoking and I

have not seen one person claim that it is. That's ridiculous. However, smoking is the number 1 cause of lung cancer and that type of cancer is largely preventable, unlike others where there is still research going on to find out exactly what causes them and how and if they can be prevented. I don't have a guarantee of not ever getting ovarian or breast cancer but my odds of not getting lung cancer if I never smoke are pretty high.

Oh and I said "most" cases. I know that people like Dana Reeves get lung cancer without ever smoking. But most cases of that type cancer are smoking related.

[Kingshakabobo]

15. Dana Reeves was a nightclub singer. I believe her......

.......her cancer was attributed to second hand smoke, wasn't it?

[calico1]

17. Hmmm.....

I thought it was exposure to radon gas (which is another known cause). But I could be thinking of
someone else.

On edit: I looked it up. You are correct. She was exposed to second hand smoke from her career as a night club singer.

[seabeyond]

21. was the mother a smoker? does that mean she deserves it. do we

feel sorry for her if she came down ill and didnt smoke. do we have no compassion if she smoked. what is the ironic. do tell.