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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:38 PM
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What is all this about?
Beyond Delay: The 20 Most Corrupt Members of Congress (and five to watch)

http://beyonddelay.org/summaries/murtha.php

Look at the bottom, highlighted;


The 20 Most Corrupt Members of Congress

* Sen. Conrad Burns (R-MT)
* Sen. Bill Frist (R-TN)
* Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)
* Rep. Roy Blunt (R-MO)
* Rep. Ken Calvert (R-CA)
* Rep. John Doolittle (R-CA)
* Rep. Tom Feeney (R-FL)
* Rep. Katherine Harris (R-FL)
* Rep. William Jefferson (D-LA)
* Rep. Jerry Lewis (R-CA)
* Rep. Gary Miller (R-CA)
* Rep. Alan Mollohan (D-WV)
* Rep. Marilyn Musgrave (R-CO)
* Rep. Richard Pombo (R-CA)
* Rep. Rick Renzi (R-AZ)
* Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX)
* Rep. John Sweeney (R-NY)
* Rep. Charles Taylor (R-NC)
* Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA)
* Rep. Curt Weldon (R-PA)

Dishonorable Mentions

* Rep. Chris Cannon (R-UT)
* Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-IL)
* Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-AZ)
* Rep. John Murtha (D-PA)
* Rep. Don Sherwood (R-PA)

The freepers are all over this! On a separate site, endorsed by Diana Irey, is a page with most of the above article;

http://www.youdontknowjack.org/ethics/contentview.asp?c=36347

I realize it's a smear campaign, however, what's up with the link to withoutdelay?

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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:44 PM
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1. This is old news on the DU. n/t
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:45 PM
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2. All over it?
4 dems and 21 repervs? Even assuming that the dems belong there, which I doubt.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:51 PM
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3. Murtha's always been a big porkboy...he's got a brother snuggled up to
the defense industry, too--his brother is a lobbyist, in fact, and he's "helped" him. There are a LOAD of them sprinkled throughout Congress, Kit Murtha is just one of a bunch: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/01/28/family_ties_spark_concern_in_lobby_debate/

But brother John ain't stupid--he keeps at barely arm's length, just enough to avoid being smeared completely.

Look, you can be right about the conduct of the war, and still have your finger in the pie. They aren't mutually exclusive conditions.
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InternalDialogue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:19 PM
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4. Murtha, Waters, and Mollohan are mentioned
because of suspicions that they used influence to benefit family members. If you go to CREW's website, you can read the details that put each of these people on the list. The suspected problems with the Dems are peanuts compared to more than half of the Repubs on the list. Anyone who thinks the Murtha situation puts him anywhere near Delay, Burns, Frist, etc., hasn't read through CREW's info on each Congress critter.

http://www.citizensforethics.org/
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InternalDialogue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:22 PM
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5. And that youdontknowjack site
cites CREW as a liberal organization, which it is not. They're squarely nonpartisan in their investigations -- it just so happens that there's enough corruption on the right side of the aisle to make anyone's evaluation look partisan. Those in power are the ones most likely to abuse it.
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