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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:44 PM
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Why are gay republicans being outed in the wake of the Foley scandal?
The Foley scandal was about an adult being inappropriate with children. Not about his sexual identity. Now I see thread after thread about outing gay republicans. What the fuck? I know they are hypocrites but comparing this with the Foley scandal which has nothing to do with sexual orientation I think is a stupid thing to do.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:45 PM
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1. It Just Seemed Like As Good A Time As Any
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:45 PM
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2. Are they?
Has anyone big actually been outed yet?

I remain unconvinced about Senator Larry Craig. That one looks too much like a trap.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:48 PM
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5. As far as republicans are concerned one same sex encounter
...pretty much makes a person gay, pretty ignorant, eh?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:53 PM
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9. So is that to become our position as well?
And what of Larry Craig? Is he alleged to have had one SS encounter? Three? Numerous ones? Who says, and what do they have to back it up?

DU goes off the deep end yet again.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 07:22 PM
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15. Craig was involved in a page scandal decades ago
when he was fairly new to D.C.

Once you like young boys, you don't just stop.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:35 AM
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21. Cite, please
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 11:36 AM by slackmaster
I haven't seen the evidence.

Once you like young boys, you don't just stop.

Can you point me to any scientific studies to back that up?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 07:18 PM
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14. Senator Craig has a life long history of being gay
His office issued no denials.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:35 AM
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20. No denials to what?
Please post evidence that his office has been contacted. Verifiable sources, please.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:03 PM
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24. Oh wait, lookee here! A denial!
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 02:05 PM by slackmaster
"Senator Craig’s office flatly rejected the claims. "The Senator says this story is absolutely ridiculous – almost laughable," said press secretary Sid Smith. “It has no basis in fact.”

Pardon the weird characters.

Rogers said he and his advisors are solid on the sources, but they would remain anonymous.

http://www.newwest.net/index.php/main/print/12115

That denial will be sufficient to satisfy half of the public at a bare minimum. And if the sources insist on remaining anonymous, the story will never have legs in the MSM. Or with me, unless Craig admits it or someone has pictures.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:46 PM
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3. This has nothing whatsoever to do with Foley.
Mike from blogactive.com promised this last January.

Get the background before you call it stupid.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:50 PM
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8. Gotcha. Guess the timing had me confused. I do think the timing could
backfire for Dems.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:56 PM
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12. check out Mike Rogers' "Mister Senator" letter from Jan. 2006
http://www.blogactive.com/2006/01/mister-senator.html it will demonstrate that this isn't something that Rogers just decided to do because of Foley.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:47 PM
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4. Because these are people who actively oppose gay rights
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 06:48 PM by rox63
while being gay themselves. They are the worst sort of hypocrites.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:49 PM
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6. whooo! Dems are becoming...? ruthless? or something?
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:50 PM
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7. The party that demonizes homosexuals...
is harboring self-loathing gays who are helping to oppress the gay community. I have absolutely no problem with it. Now if, by chance, there is a Republican who has not voted with the party to take away civil rights from gays, and who happens to be gay, then I would have a problem with this person being outted. Then again, I doubt such an individual would be a Republican.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:53 PM
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10. Out 'em all, and let Gannon sort 'em out!
It exposes the GOP as the bigots and hypocrites they are, so let the outing begin... er, continue!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:55 PM
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11. Mike Rogers said on Schultz today that it's because of the 2004 election
For him atleast. He's sick of being used as a punching bag by them. He's been outing them for a while now, including Ed Schrock and David Drier.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:58 PM
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13. And he's going to out another one in the next few weeks
http://www.blogactive.com/2006/10/and-pitch-another-case-coming-soon.html

Tuesday, October 17, 2006

***

There's more research to do... There is at least one more member of Congress to report on within the next few weeks -- and with some very intertesting documents, no less... And let there be no doubt, I already have some of the documents I will be using to report on this member of Congress.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:13 PM
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17. Time to pop come more popcorn
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 07:34 PM
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16. why not use their own sick immune system against them?
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 07:35 PM by bushmeat
its like the Republicans are suffering from the political analogue to rheumatoid arthritis
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:16 PM
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18. Simple: Foley exposed a political vulnerability in the GOP.
They knowingly tolerated gays among them, and their fundy base now knows it.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:15 PM
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19. that is the very problem I am addressing. What Foley did that was wrong
had NOTHING to do with the fact that he was homosexual. Yes it makes the GOP hypocrites that they fight against gay rights and yet have closeted homosexuals among them, but that has nothing to do with the behavior of Foley. He abused his power with minors. They happened to be boys. I would feel the same outrage had they been girls.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:38 AM
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22. There's more than one issue at hand. One is Foley and what he
did.

The other - and this is the political vulnerability being exploited - is the revelation that the staunchly anti-gay GOP actually has a secret cabal of gays among its elites, unknown to its fundy base.

It's a corollary to the revelation that Rove called the base "nuts" and has disdain for them.

It's exposing the divide in the party and driving the wedge in.

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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:58 AM
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23. Because some folks think....
...it will piss of eneough "value voters" to bring the Dems some electoral victories.
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