Jonathan Turley on Countdown. said we should not expect the USSC to stop

[papau]

Bush's Military Commission Bill and its termination of the Bill of Rights.

Now I really feel down in the dumps.

[Monkeyman]

1. Torture bill we need to win

[acmavm]

2. Wasn't it Jefferson who recommended periodic revolutions to keep

the government straight?

[Syrinx]

3. any justice that votes in favor of Bush on this...

Would be violating their oath of office, and should be removed from office.

[Gabi Hayes]

4. I was thinking the same thing, but it'll never happen. and what's WORSE:

if dems win both houses, then the presidency, THEN rescind this law, the SCOTUS WILL overturn the rescission!

how cool is that?

[H2O Man]

12. No they wouldn't.

Things are pretty rough right now, and there is plenty of reason for concern. But the truth is that we have options that include regaining control of the legislative and executive branches. And when that happens, and this "law" is laid to rest, the USSC would not, and indeed could not, overturn that.

[BattyDem]

9. I was just going to post the same thing

Justices are supposed to uphold the constitution and while the argument can be made that laws are open to interpretation, the laws that the torture bill violates are VERY clear. Any judge who can't see that is either an idiot or a political idealogue who has no business sitting on the US Supreme Court!

[WinkyDink]

14. Hmmmm....let me think about that last point.....

[BattyDem]

16. Ok ... but what's to think about?

The Constitution is very clear: the United States in not, nor was it ever intended to be, a dictatorship. The power of our government is divided between three co-equal branches. The Bill of Rights has specific details about the rights of the people and what the government can and cannot do.

The "torture bill" eliminates the Bill of Rights and gives all the power to the president, who gets to decide on his own who is and is not a "threat" to the country. In other words, it completely disregards and/or overrules the Constitution. Any judge, especially one who sits on the US Supreme Court, will recognize that immediately. If they choose to rule in Bush's favor anyway, that can only mean one of two things: they are complete idiots (which I doubt) or they are ideologues who would prefer to rewrite the Constitution to fit their political agenda. Basically, it would be a right-wing coup. :-(


edited for clarity

[Subdivisions]

5. I've heard on CNN that Kennedy will get the deciding

USSC vote on whether the MCA of 2006 will live or die.

What do you suppose he'll do?

[madmusic]

6. Who is Turley and why should I care?

Edit: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2418152&mesg_id=2418152

[JerseygirlCT]

7. Professor at GWU law school

expert in constitutional law.

[madmusic]

8. Thanks, see the link I just edited in.

It's not a done deal by any means.

[madmusic]

10. Federalist Society

“I'm always happy to speak to the Federalist Society, because I am something of an unabashed Madisonian; I think that he helped shape a constitutional system which is unique and has proven itself time and time again to be inspired. And this Society, of course, advances many of those values.” -Jonathan Turley, George Washington University

[Misskittycat]

13. My alma mater. n/t

[madmusic]

15. Having watched the segment now...

He's damn good. And KO's second guest nailed it: Once the people know CITIZENS can be declared enemy combatants just for supplying something as vague as "material support," this will backfire big time on BushCo. They consider it their October surprise that will carry them through the election. We have to debunk it!

This KO enlightenment needs spread far and wide, and once on YouTube, needs DUed like we've never DUed before. Nothing, NOTHING, matters more.

Someone please post the link when it gets to YouTube.

[C_U_L8R]

11. VOTE AND PROTEST

and if they still won't listen to the people
then it's OUR constitutional duty to revolt
and overthrow this tyranny.
That's what the founding fathers would have us do.

[deacon]

17. It should be a 'shutout'- if the USSC- any one of them can't see

this is unconstitutional- NONE of them are qualified to be on the USSC.