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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:43 PM
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Humanity may split into two sub-species in 100,000 years
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6057734.stm



Evolutionary theorist Oliver Curry of the London School of Economics expects a genetic upper class and a dim-witted underclass to emerge.

The human race would peak in the year 3000, he said - before a decline due to dependence on technology.

People would become choosier about their sexual partners, causing humanity to divide into sub-species, he added.

The descendants of the genetic upper class would be tall, slim, healthy, attractive, intelligent, and creative and a far cry from the "underclass" humans who would have evolved into dim-witted, ugly, squat goblin-like creatures.

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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:43 PM
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1. Eloi and Morlocks n/t
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:44 PM
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2. Either This Guy Reads Too Much HG Wells
Or HG Wells is an even greater genius than anyone's ever given him credit for before, and he's gotten a LOT of credit for being a genius and a visionary already.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:45 PM
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3. We've already done that
Bush voters and non-Bush voters.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:47 PM
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4. I'll be sorry to miss it.
I'll probably have the flu or be surfing in Oahu. Please make a video for all of us who can't be there and post it on YouTube.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:48 PM
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5. men will have bigger penises!!
men will exhibit symmetrical facial features, look athletic, and have squarer jaws, deeper voices and bigger penises.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:55 PM
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11. And women...
Women, on the other hand, will develop lighter, smooth, hairless skin, large clear eyes, pert breasts, glossy hair, and even features, he adds. Racial differences will be ironed out by interbreeding, producing a uniform race of coffee-coloured people.

Any guess on what his favorite Playboy pics are?
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:49 PM
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6. Winston Churchill's reply, on the eve of the Battle of Britain:
"Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this island or lose the war. If we can stand up to him, all Europe may be free and the life of the world may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age, made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science."

The same perverted science is being peddled by Dr. Curry and Murdoch's news empire tonight.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:52 PM
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9. yeah, churchill was a numb nut.
he loved the idea of poison gas.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:15 PM
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20. Um...so?
Abraham Lincoln was a white supremacist who believed that blacks were inferior and that racial equality should never happen. Theodore Roosevelt was a sabre-rattling imperialist who loved war the way some men love football. Still great men, despite their flaws.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:18 PM
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22. No love of lincoln here
the man authored an amendment to the constitution to make slavery permanent anonymously just before his election.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:15 PM
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21. Sorry to go Anglophile on your sorry ass.
Actually, not sorry at all.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:50 PM
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7. Back on the road to eugenics, it never ends, does Oliver Curry
...masturbate into a jar regularly?

<snip>
Oliver Curry

Oliver Curry is a Research Associate in LSE's Centre for Philosophy of Natural and Social Science. He also teaches Political Theory at New York University in London. Oliver is interested in evolutionary explanations of behaviour, especially human social, moral and political behaviour. He is also interested in how evolutionary explanations of moral and political thought and behaviour shed light on problems in moral and political theory.

Oliver completed his PhD thesis -- on the evolution of human moral sentiments -- in the Government Department of the LSE. His thesis used recent developments in evolutionary game theory, animal behaviour and evolutionary psychology to further the goal of placing the study of morality on a sound scientific basis. The thesis gave David Hume's account of the moral sentiments a Darwinian update, showed how the evolutionary account of morality provides a framework in which to make sense of various aspects of moral philosophy, and highlighted a number of areas in which further research is needed.

Oliver is currently working on turning some of the predictions that evolutionary theory makes about human moral and political psychology into tractable experiments, and putting them to the test. This includes work on the evolution of patience, on attitudes to abortion, and on moral decision-making in psychopaths. For more information on this area of research, see the website of the Evolutionary Moral Psychology Group. Oliver is co-editor and author of various Darwin@LSE publications, including Darwinism Today and the special edition of the Demos Quarterly.

Email: o.s.curry@lse.ac.uk
Publications

http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/darwin/people.htm
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:57 PM
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13. If only Stephen Jay Gould were still alive to put the smackdown on 'em
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:09 AM
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28. Indeed, S. J. Gould was born in the same year as myself, it is
...unfortunate that he was not able to live and work longer to indisputably nail down the relationship of genetic inheritance and environmental/cultural factors, because the likes of Herrnstein and Murray <The Bell Curve> will be with us as long as there is arrogance, racism and greed on this planet. Thank you for the reminder and the link.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:50 PM
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8. More likely...
The upper class will kill us all off long before that.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:53 PM
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10. Speculative at best, throwback to eugenics at worst
Since intelligence and creativity have not been proven to be genetic traits, and neither one is connected to height or attractiveness, it seems silly to expect the rise of an upperclass Ubermensch with all these traits put together.

Tucker (a short, plain, smart, creative poor person)
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:55 PM
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12. I've met members of the old money upper class
and I've met members of the chronically underpaid, underfed, overworked lower class, and trust me, the upper class is not where the brains reside.

The upper class has a veneer of education and sophistication, but it's a veneer. It's not to be confused with intelligence in any way. They would be utterly helpless if left to their own devices.

It takes more intelligence to survive under the conditions the lower classes generally face. It takes little intelligence to delegate all the brain work to them.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:01 PM
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17. 100K years?
It seems likely that humans will be extinct in 100 years or less.
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ruiner4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:21 PM
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23. I agree..
two examples come to mind. Prince charles and any 'black irish' guy who fixes cars or fights fires.. I know which one is hotter and who I want to be with.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:58 PM
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14. Mr. Curry forgot to say that he is a member of the dim-witted underclass
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 09:59 PM by originalpckelly
from that future time. He traveled back in a time machine, which he stole from his master.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:59 PM
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15. I dunno. Sounds to me like Mike Judge has the future nailed.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:00 PM
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16. I get no respect around here....
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 10:01 PM by ourbluenation
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:08 PM
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19. We're not worthy
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 04:45 AM
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27. See, you are adored! But writing headlines is not often easy, and
by my calculation, you posted agillion-kablillion hours ago.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:05 PM
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18. "Class" is the new "race."
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:25 PM
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24. also known as liberals and conservatives
respectively
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:17 AM
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25. He's got it backwards
Rich thugs who do nothing don't think don't care are already goblin like creatures look at bush.

Anyways this is poor bashing(note he said UNDERCLASS) dressed up as "science". Fuck this asshole eugenic promoting pice of shit.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 04:24 AM
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26. Ditto n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:29 AM
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29. 100,000 years?
Yeah, like there will really be humans around 100,000 years from now. Not very likely.
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Superman Returns Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:02 AM
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30. this is hilarious
what the hell is that?
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:16 AM
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31. As a tall skinny guy
I kinda like the idea!
No bias here! :evilgrin:
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