Clinton coming up to speak on MSNBC now, 10:09 am CT. nt

[babylonsister]

[edbermac]

1. Please feed the cube rats...

I hope he tears W a new one...

[babylonsister]

2. He has a cold (sounds like) and is going to speak more about

his governing philosophy than trashing dimson (the way forward).

[wake.up.america]

3. All he needs to do is present the facts and he'll blast a hole through...

the BS.

[liberaliraqvet26]

4. they probably will cut the speech off anyway...

no one else is carrying it.

[babylonsister]

6. You're probably right; can't have a sensible Dem talking

logically now, can we.

[Norquist Nemesis]

5. WOW!!! The cable network is going to be airing a Democrat?

Live?

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

[Subdivisions]

13. Whora O'dickhead just said that though BC hasn't specifically

mentioned * or the pukes, it is an obvious criticism of them and so let's just take him off the air and talk to some "experts".

[malaise]

7. Listening

An articulate President is a joy to the ears :D

[babylonsister]

10. And oh so rare! nt

[malaise]

11. This is a classic speech

Clinton is brilliant. Ideology versus philosophy - the absolute denial of evidence.

[bdamomma]

27. I am not able to listen right now but isn't great to hear someone

who can put a sentence together. God, we have gotten so below our standards with this sick idiot we have in the WH.

[w8liftinglady]

8. man-contrasting Clinton and Bush-speaking styles

Bush is such an embarrassment to our nation.

[KennedyGuy]

9. I never believed that those who disagreed with me..

were my enemys.
Wow..
(Unlike today..where if you disagree you are liable to be labeled treasonous)

[malaise]

12. Why the fugg have they cut the speech to discuss it

Good fugging grief. This is unbelievable. Fugg you Nora.

[Subdivisions]

22. With all due respect, why don't you just say it:

F-U-C-K! FUCK

[Cameron27]

14. He's made a magnificent speech describing how ideologues

(bush)have denial as the foundation of their decision making.

They just cut away from him and now the GOP assholes get to try to tear him down.

[tridim]

15. Well they cut away to talk to two insignificant congresspeople

Why? Unbelievable. I was really enjoying what Clinton was saying.

[babylonsister]

16. God forbid any American actually learn something. nt

[bdamomma]

28. they want to keep the american people dumb down and listen

to only the RW propaganda, that shouldn't be new to anyone. Plus after signing that Torture Bill yesterday he (bush) feels he has full reign of power.

[Norquist Nemesis]

21. Let me guess. They both had (R) next to their names. n/t

[Subdivisions]

17. GOD DAMN IT!!!

They broadcast ever minute of Bush but they cut Clinton off...I'm so fucking pissed! How do I expend this anger and adrenaline?

[DURHAM D]

19. Broke in so Nora could play Repug shill role. What

a crap programming decision.

[eShirl]

18. I want to watch the speech!!

get these people off and get back to the damn speech

[Lex]

20. His speaking of how "ideologues" have to be in a state of denial

because they "already have their minds made up" about what's true and will deny the existence of "inconvenient facts" was superb.

[originalpckelly]

34. Yes, but I don't think you realize...

he was also talking about us. I know how I feel about Republicans, and I feel like the person he was targeting. I don't want to debate them, I just hate them. But he made me realize that I and others who feel that way, both Democrats and Republicans, are not the best for America. We aren't thinking, we are making appeals to emotion, a most irrational thing. We hate Bush, and don't try to BS out of it, I know I hate him. But that isn't right, I shouldn't feel that way no one in America should feel that way about people who are on the side opposite them in politics. You can't hate someone and talk to them in a productive manner. It is that whole "you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar" bit. In a sense he is talking about democracy, and the democratic process. It is not a process of tyranny of the majority. Politics shouldn't ever be "winner takes all" because being on the other side of the winner really sucks when it is like that. If there is an agreement between sides that they will make reasonable demands, and pledge to listen to the minority side when they are given power, then they will always control their destiny in part. I hope people listen.

[Lex]

35. Of course I realize he was talking about both sides.

How could anyone *not* get that he was talking about ideologues of any stripe?

The difference, though, and he articulated this well, is that you have to commit yourself to staying in the REALITY BASED community. I think the Repubs actually delight in the fact that they "make their own reality" (they said this) since they are in the majority--or at least they are for another couple weeks.

That's a big difference, staying in the "reality based community" and not letting your ideology get in the way of facts.

[Auntie Bush]

23. Damn MSNBC...Wes Snipes is more important than Clinton.

[Skidmore]

24. CSPAN was to broadcast live earlier but had a technical problem

so the WJ host said they would tape it and broadcast it later.

[cry baby]

25. I just can't believe we can't just hear the speech!

I'm disappointed in the fact that we hear about Snipes while this speech is going on.

[cry baby]

26. FUCK - I HATE NORAH O'DONNELL!

she actually brings up Reid and a possible scandal. How much does rove pay her anyway!

[Lex]

30. She's such a shill. It was obvious.

She kept saracastically saying Clinton represents "liberal values" (like that's a bad thing) and that Clinton's speaking of "the common good" were just 'words' and merely a catch phrase, like compassionate conservativism was.

[cry baby]

31. Yes, when she said they are just words - a catch phrase...

is when I threw my shoe at the tv.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

29. Give Norah a break!

She's THIS close () to getting to sleep with rove or cheney or maybe even the big baboon himself!

[Norquist Nemesis]

33. Wish MSNBC would give her a break!

A permanent one.

I turned off the TV for the morning. Just can't stand watching these people continue the Bushwash of the country.

[Subdivisions]

32. Chris Jansing takes over...no relief. She's got to

be the ugliest woman I've ever seen. She makes Helen Thomas look like Angelina Jolie.

[in_cog_ni_to]

36. Man...I am so mad over this! Even C-SPAN isn't covering it Live!

C-SPAN is showing the freakin' House of Commons....which I enjoy, but Clinton's speech is MUCH MORE IMPORTANT!

ASSHOLES!

If this was the idiot-in-chief...they'd cover it live.