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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:33 AM
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Evidence begins to surface that Bush lied about invading Iraq
In particular, he lied to the People, Congress, and to the world that Bush lied, that war would be used "as a last resort".

Evidence has surfaced that Bush had planned to invade Iraq no matter what.

An email from Jack Abramoff has shown that an invasion of Iraq was planned even before Congress authorized the use of military force against the country.

"I was sitting yesterday with Karl Rove, Bush’s top advisor, at the NCAA basketball game, discussing Israel when this email came in. I showed it to him. It seems that the President was very sad to have to come out negatively regarding Israel, but that they needed to mollify the Arabs for the upcoming war on Iraq."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15081799/site/newsweek/

This email was sent March 18, 2002.

This was before The Downing Street Memo (Written on July 23, 2002), which stated that "Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."

This was before the creation of the White House Iraq Group, which scared Americans with "Mushroom Clouds".

Bush did lie about Iraq, we were going to head into this quagmire, no matter what.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:35 AM
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1. no kidding? we have all known it was lies from the beginning, as
did anybody who ever saw the pnac site
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:36 AM
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3. PROOF - That's what's important
We have a case.
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gilpo Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:03 PM
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22. A case????
What court would take that? Remember who appointed him in the first place?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:06 PM
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23. In the metaphorical sense
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DrunkenMaster Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:59 PM
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28. the proof was there since the beginning
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 03:00 PM by DrunkenMaster
When Colin Powell showed diagrams of tankers supposed to be chemical weaspons storage, we KNEW they inflation stations for artillery balloons becasue we had the documents to prove it. When Bush claimed Liraq tried to buy uranium from Niger, we KNEW it was bogus becasue the document was obviously fraudulent becasue it was signed by an individual who wasn't even in political office during the date indicated. When we cited the Downing St. Memo, we had proof bush was a liar and a fraud. Etc, etc, etc. The proof has always been there.
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station agent Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:36 AM
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2. File it with the Downing Street Memo
This should bring down the throne... or get totally ignored like everything else.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:36 AM
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4. Begins to surface?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:37 AM
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6. Got your attention, no?
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Katzenjammer Donating Member (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:37 AM
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5. This is a news flash? (nt)
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:38 AM
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7. bush told the Houston Newspaper in 98 or 99 about his Iraqi war
Woodward told about Dec 2000 pentagon planning sessions for an Iraqi war.
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:38 AM
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8. DUH!
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:39 AM
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9. I keep thinking of Daniel Ellsberg on Colbert saying the whistle blowers
need to come thru with hard evidence,not heresay...that we needed hard evidence to go on. Looks like it's coming out.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:40 AM
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10. OMG, no WAY! Not our pResident! He wouldn't LIE !!!
:rofl: :spank: :rofl: :spank: :rofl:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:40 AM
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11. In other news, the sun came up in the east today.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:41 AM
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12. Mainstream! k and R. n/t
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:44 AM
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13. Abramoff is just one of those gifts that keeps on giving
Isn't he?

I can't wait to see what else may have been discussed in one of these emails.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:45 PM
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30. In so many ways
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:46 AM
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14. who will believe Jack Abramoff? nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:46 AM
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15. And none of that will matter as long as it's framed
in terms of "Bush misled" and "mistakes were made"

Evidence means little when perception is being constantly shaped with words that cover up the lies and the crimes.

The evidence has to be shouted from the Press, from the TV and, most importantly, from Congress.

Until it is, manufactured reality will trump evidence.

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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:48 AM
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16. "begins" to surface?
Are tey fucking kidding?
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:50 AM
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17. Kind Of Onion-ish Headline At This Point, But Nice To See.
OMG how long does it take the corp. media to get with the program here??? Kind of cracks me up but nice to see Jack Abramoff is the gift that keeps on giving...
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:51 AM
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18. Begins?
Oh, well... Well, that's just laughable. Unless, of course, we have documents signed by the Chimp and his flying monkey crew saying they would lie... :rofl:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:53 AM
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19. gee,
ya think
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:58 AM
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20. Folks, that this to the streets near you
Get it out there in more mainstream venues and as a water cooler chat topic

Get it out there
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:59 AM
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21. Next week, it'll be "old news"
Move along citizen, nothing to see here.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:11 PM
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24. That evidence surfaced before we invaded.
And has been floating in plain sight since then.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:16 PM
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25. Well whattya know, this made it to the big peacock.
I thought it was just going to remain buried like all the other war crime evidence RawStory tells us every day.

Fire in the hole !!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:18 PM
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26. Only a televised, live abortion will wake Americans up.
If the DSM didn't do it, then I'm afraid this won't either. Zzzzzzzzzz. Wake me when they start paying attention. I'm tired of being vigilant for no results.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:49 PM
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27. Too bad this message wasn't written in semen on a blue dress.
So our intrepid press would cover it.

Remember how the press excused its lynch-mob Monica coverage by saying it was news, so they HAD to cover it?

Seems like conclusive proof that Bush lied us into war would be almost as newsworthy as an unauthorized blow job. But will the MSM pay it equal attention?

Har har.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:00 PM
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29. BEGINS? Um, DSM anyone?
NT!

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