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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:07 PM
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Is torture a defining characteristic of Modern American Christianity?
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 06:16 PM by bryant69
We have a Christian President who's pro-torture, we have a Christian Congress that votes for torture, and if you took a poll of American Christians, I would guess that a majority would support the current torture policy.

So is it fair to say that Torture is a defining chracteristic of Modern American Christianity?

Bryant
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:08 PM
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1. Jesus was tortured. And after all... who doesn't want to be like Jesus?n/t
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:15 PM
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6. So in the Christian mindset, as you understand it
We are doing those Iraqis a favor by torturing the hell out of them?

Bryant
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:25 PM
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15. It brings them closer to gawd. Just like Terri Schiavo.
Christians want everyone to suffer.

Gawd likes it when we suffer.

That's why I love mankind.

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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:08 PM
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2. Yes, and it's Mel Gibson's fault.
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 06:08 PM by Drum
He makes their porn.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:08 PM
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3. No.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:10 PM
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4. They think people different from them will be tortured forever by Jesus
so in their minds, it's a virtue
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:13 PM
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5. Yes they believe a loving God
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 06:13 PM by Zodiak Ironfist
would torture a soul forever for about 70 years of pissing him off.

Not that Hell is an original concept of Christianity. They added that concept about 800-900 years after Jesus died, from what I understand (I am no theologist). They had to add the stick to Jesus's carrot n order to get more followers.

Fear, it has always worked on humans.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:17 PM
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7. why not? Torture was a prominent characteristic
of christian ecclesiastical governance for centuries (they were hardly alone among religions that tortured), and the christian religion has overflowed with hatred of the human body from its earliest days, often excusing torture and mortification of the flesh to achieve, respectively, truth or spiritual purity.

An embrace of torture by a Christian Fascist regime and its civilian base of support could be seen as a return to cultural roots--and aren't they always talking about the need for a return to christian principles and practices?
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:20 PM
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8. Just modern Christianity? How about with all of Christianity.
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 06:21 PM by liberalmuse
Christians have been torturing and slaughtering people enmasse since the church's inception. The Popes raped at will, and now they cover up pedophilia. I'm not at all surprised that only a handful of churches have come out against the war and the torture bill. Most religion, especially the Abramic branches are the worst thing to ever happen to humanity.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:25 PM
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9. Sadly, there is no "Comfy Chair."
:cry:


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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:26 PM
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10. It is a characteristic of fundamentalism, not Christianity
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 06:28 PM by EstimatedProphet
I'm a Christian. I am very much anti-torture, and anti-fundamentalism. Fundamentalism is a corruption. It's a cancer on Christianity. It takes the words of Christ - words of compassion, of healing, of love - and twists them into a message of hate. It is Satan's work on Christianity made manifest.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:29 PM
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11. The fundamentalists would claim that theirs is the true christians
Others would suggest that your continued allegiance to a faith that promotes torture, however much you might disagreew with that prospect, gives cover to those who support torture. If the moderates left christianity, the argumet goes, it could be seen for what it is, and destroyed.

Bryant
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:34 PM
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13. And I would claim in return
that Satan comes disguised as a man of peace, and worship of false gods (i.e. Bush) is a violation of the very first commandment.

These people are not 'true' Christians. They are not Christians. They are Satanists. Period.

Judge by actions, not words.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:49 PM
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14. Exactly
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:33 PM
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12. They believe in an infinite torture for a thoughtcrime.
Why wouldn't they support finite torture if the victim is seen as a terrorist?
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